Treasure Map

Artifact

, : Scry 1. Put a landmark counter on Treasure Map. Then if there are three or more landmark counters on it, remove those counters, transform Treasure Map, and create three colorless Treasure artifact tokens with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Gain one mana of any colour."

Discussion (50)

TheSlowestBro on I got a bad feeling about this..

1 month ago

I can agree with Pia and Kiran Nalaar , I am myself still on the fence with it. On paper I probably should cut Treasure Map  ^Flip.. but I just love this card, have ever since it was printed, mostly it's just the awesome flavor of it, but it also makes games real smooth coming down turn 2, and not the end of the world drawing it later on.

Also I think your suggestion of Recruiter -> Top is the correct choice. I have thought about the recruiter in the past, but it's also pretty nice if I have a wheel-esque effect on hand to set myself up for a big goblin hand.

This feels good:

• Loyal Apprentice -> Humble Defector
• Mountain -> Homeward Path
• Mind Stone -> Dockside Extortionist
• Goblin Recruiter -> Sensei's Divining Top
• Pia and Kiran Nalaar -> Moggcatcher

I'll have to think further about what slot to give Jeska's Will and Ignite the Future . I have to admit, not every card choice in my decks are necessarily completely rational, I also care about the feel the deck gets from running cards that are a bit outside of the ordinary. So I try to make my decks as good as I can while still keeping many of the core cards that made me want to build it in the first place!

Profet93 on I got a bad feeling about this..

1 month ago

TheSlowestBro I didn't even realize you could delete comments, I just figured it was another tappedout glitch. Regarding cuts, I agree with all except the following...

Honor Worn Shaku should be kept and you should remove Treasure Map  ^Flip. You mention it as a repeatable engine, but its slow and doesn't provide much value. Also, Honor works with your planewalksers and purphorous, which is nice tech.

Magus is a good potential cut, but it should be kept IMO and you should remove Pia and Kiran Nalaar . Costs a lot to play and activate, tokens are nice but often unimpactful without impact tremors effects.

Potential cuts for Sensei's Top and Moggcatcher are as follows in order of should cut first to should cut last....

Goblin Recruiter - Ensures no land drops, often based on board states which constantly change. While having a creature tutor in mono red is nice, do you really find yourself in the situation that you would cast this, wait a turn and find a goblin.

Chandra, Acolyte of Flame - First 0 effectively does nothing without other chandras. Second 0 is like Pia and Kiran Nalaar, making tokens without much abuse for them. -2 is actually not bad, just not amazing IMO.

Squee, Goblin Nabob - Nice with wheels and self-discard looting effects. Fun with skullclamp. Otherwise, unimpactful. Had him in my build originally, took him out

TheSlowestBro on I got a bad feeling about this..

1 month ago

Hello! Sorry for the late reply, had some issue with my service provider.

So let's see, I think I've considered most of these already, they are all really cool ideas, the main issue is making deckspace for them. Do you see anything that sticks out to you as potential cuts? Aftershock has generally been really good, people don't see it coming and being able to hit a broken land if needed is really powerful.

1. Sensei's Divining Top : the main issue here is $$, I actually bought a copy not too long ago, but I put into my Titania, Protector of Argoth deck as it's just way too good there to go anywhere else. Feel free to check it out, The Entmoot if you have any interest. When I feel I can justify buying another copy, of course I will highly consider it for this deck.

2. Ignite the Future : THIS is interesting and I had not considered it. Nice little synergy you pointed out there with Top as well. Great tip! I'll definitely give it a try when I get the chance.

3. Light Up the Stage : I like it, don't get me wrong, but do I like it more than a recurrent value generator like Treasure Map  ^Flip or Mimic Vat ? I don't think so.. Has it performed for you?

4. Jeska's Will : You're right, this should probably have a slot. Again, what to cut, if I shave anymore from the goblin package I don't think it's worth running them anymore.

5. Zealous Conscripts : Precisely not in here because it combos with Kiki a bit too easily! I'm just not a huge fan of infinite combos in EDH that are too easy to pull off, and I have so many ways to search for Kiki.

6. Dockside Extortionist : You're right, this guy would be totally nuts, but it comes down to $$ and I'm kiiinda hoping on a reprint before I splurge, we'll see how long my patience lasts heheh.

7. Homeward Path : Absolutely if I find a slot for the Humble Defector this would be so cool. Again, slots. But perhaps I should prioritize the defector more than I currently am, haven't really tried it out, should try to proxy it up, but you know, not much going on where I live unfortunately on the gaming side because of covid :/

8. Outpost Siege : it's cool and I definitely considered it, but I think there are other value/ping options that are far better, though the utility of being able to choose is nice ofc. I think if I do find I need another ping-style card this will be the go-to.

Thanks for your thoughts and such a in-depth comment on my deck. Really useful and appreciated!

Edit: I was gonna edit my own comment but deleted your original one by mistake! Ooops! Also I did not realize that Confusion in the Ranks triggers in that matter and neither has anyone in my group ever noticed hahah! But I think this just makes the card even more interesting, so thank you for pointing it out.

TheSlowestBro on I got a bad feeling about this..

1 month ago

Hello! Sorry for the late reply, had some issue with my service provider.

So let's see, I think I've considered most of these already, they are all really cool ideas, the main issue is making deckspace for them. Do you see anything that sticks out to you as potential cuts? Aftershock has generally been really good, people don't see it coming and being able to hit a broken land if needed is really powerful.

1. Sensei's Divining Top : the main issue here is $$, I actually bought a copy not too long ago, but I put into my Titania, Protector of Argoth deck as it's just way too good there to go anywhere else. Feel free to check it out, The Entmoot if you have any interest. When I feel I can justify buying another copy, of course I will highly consider it for this deck.

2. Ignite the Future : THIS is interesting and I had not considered it. Really interesting synergy you pointed out there with Top as well. Great tip! I'll definitely give it a try when I get the chance.

3. Light Up the Stage : I like it, don't get me wrong, but do I like it more than a recurrent value generator like Treasure Map  ^Flip or Mimic Vat ? I don't think so.. Has it performed for you?

4. Jeska's Will : You're right, this should probably have a slot. Again, what to cut, if I shave anymore from the goblin package I don't think it's worth running them anymore.

5. Zealous Conscripts : Precisely not in here because it combos with Kiki a bit too easily! I'm just not a huge fan of infinite combos in EDH that are too easy to pull off, and I have so many ways to search for Kiki.

6. Dockside Extortionist : You're right, this guy would be totally nuts, but it comes down to $$ and I'm kiiinda hoping on a reprint before I splurge, we'll see how long my patience lasts heheh.

7. Homeward Path : Absolutely if I find a slot for the Humble Defector this would be so cool. Again, slots. But perhaps I should prioritize the defector more than I currently am, haven't really tried it out, should try to proxy it up, but you know, not much going on where I live unfortunately on the gaming side because of covid :/

8. Outpost Siege : it's cool and I definitely considered it, but I think there are other value/ping options that are far better, though the utility of being able to choose is nice ofc. I think if I do find I need another ping-style card this will be the go-to.

Thanks for your thoughts and such a in-depth comment on my deck. Really useful and appreciated!

PurePwnage on Mechanized Destruction

2 months ago

BrianStacks, haha yes!!! I just need to find a spot in the mainboard. Possibly substituting Treasure Map  ^Flip for it would work.

Rhadamanthus on Treasure Map and Mechanized Production …

2 months ago

Yes, that's correct. If a resolving spell or ability gives you an impossible instruction, you do as much as you can and just skip the impossible part. Since Treasure Map  ^Flip's ability isn't written to have any part of it be conditional on whether or not you actually transformed it (i.e. it doesn't say anything like "if you do..."), not being able to transform it won't interfere with the other parts of the effect.

PurePwnage on Treasure Map and Mechanized Production …

2 months ago

Hello everyone,

My question pertains to the interaction between Mechanized Production and the clones/copies of Treasure Map  ^Flip created by its static effect.

While I am aware clones or copies of a permanent that isn't actually a double-faced card can't actually transform, abilities or effects will still try to do as much as possible. That is, once I have the required number of counters on the copied/cloned Treasure Map  ^Flip, it will fail to transform and I will get the three clues, but what happens to the clone/copy after all effects and abilities resolve? My assumption is that the copy/clone will simply remain on the battlefield with no counters on it.

Heliogabale on The Crimson Permanent Assurance | Malcolm&Breeches

2 months ago

Updated

Mainly I wanted to have an additional wincon by integrating Mechanized Production .

I also wanted a bit more draw options, and Sword of Fire and Ice seemed like the best value here. I also wanted to try Treasure Map  ^Flip since it fits the theme so well.

My commanders are very instrumental to this deck so the Spellskite offers a nice protection against targeted removal.

Some tweaks to the mana base complete this update.