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Creature — Ooze
Predator Ooze is indestructible.
Whenever Predator Ooze attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Whenever a creature dealt damage by Predator Ooze this turn dies, put a +1/+1 counter on Predator Ooze.
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Predator Ooze Discussion
1 day ago
Wow, "Flesh Thresher" is a ... visceral epithet(; love the description too.
This is a powerful list! I especially love the reliable token production this deck has, because even if somebody casts Nevermore on Kresh, that just means your worst case is a combo-y token deck, which can still be excellent!
As for potential improvements, I notice that the majority of your sacrifice outlets require mana, which can be a problem when trying to go off with Kresh and power him up for a lethal Chandra's Ignition (which is already a little mana-intensive). Sure, you'll win if you randomly draw Ashnod's Altar, but I don't want to leave that up to chance, which is why I include redundancy like Scarland Thrinax and friends, so that I'm more or less guaranteed to have free instant-speed shenanigans. I would cut some less relevant cards like Predator Ooze, Vona's Hunger, Darksteel Plate, or Anger that are great in a vacuum but don't directly support the sacrifice theme.
6 days ago
AkrosTheClear, I'll have to take the time and put it on here but sure.
It's nothing really too different from the original deck. I swapped out something like 11 cards I think?
I don't play competitively or nothing. Just with my friends and at the LGS.
I do tend to build decks that can come off as "unfair" at times, but really it's no different than someone building a deck that locks you out of a game, or does an infinite win combo.
I honestly didn't expect to get Caustic Crawler with three lands at the same time via Xenagos. Had it not been for that, I probably would have lost as his board state was way bigger than mine.
He flooded it with tons of 1/1s, 1/2s, and 2/2s as I stated, I've played that deck about a dozen times now and his whole thing revolvers around Craterhoof Behemoth. There are other wincons in the deck, of course, but that's the main strategy.
So knowing this, I needed to do one of two things: Clear the board, and take out Predator Ooze because at that time I had Omnath, Avenger, a small assortment of tokens, and like one other creature.
That PO was eating up my board. Every turn he attacked I was forced to either take more and more damage, or forced to block and make it bigger.
So from a strategic standpoint, I had no choice. I had to snuff out PO and seized the opportunity with landfall.
As for the second turn, a quick boardwipe using the mechanics of the lands in conjunction with Windgrace and Crawler is actually rather ingenious and there's no two ways about that.
So sure, maybe I had a bug up my butt, but you've gotta admit when a deck comes together and pulls you from the brink of defeat, it's a great feeling.
1 week ago
1 week ago
My opponent scooped during my Lord Windgrace game yesterday and I'd just like to share because it was absolutely insane.
So context first: I had a T1 Sol Ring and ended up bringing out Gruul Turf and Temple of the False God rather early. I had a small assortment of creatures out, but nothing quite so impactful. However, I was able to bring out an Avenger of Zendikar which net me 5x 0/1 Plant tokens and an Omnath, Locus of Rage along with Xenagos, the Reveler and Lord Windgrace whom was up to a decent amount.
It got to my turn:
- Xenagos, the Reveler is sitting at 6
- Lord Windgrace is sitting at 9
- Plant tokens are currently 3/4 from Avenger of Zendikar
- 4x Elemental tokens from Omnath, Locus of Rage
My opponent's biggest threat was a 9/9 Predator Ooze which he was relentlessly assaulting me with. I was not wanting to attack because I was building up a creature base to try and overwhelm him first. He had a lot of small creatures and I had nothing with trample. I felt that if I full-assaulted, he would just let it all through and swing for game. Plus, anything he blocks with PO will just make it stronger, meaning more damage to me later.
His typical strategy is to bring out a ton of small creatures and get Craterhoof Behemoth out and swing for game. So I knew I had to act quick because I felt like he was setting up for that win.
So it gets back to me and I feel like the clock is ticking away. I decide that I no longer need Xenagos' ramp so I opt to crack off his ultimate.
I end up bringing out the best possible assortment of cards.
So right there I see I am about to finally nail this Predator Ooze to the F-ing wall. I tell him I'm about to kill that SOB, and he's like "How?! It has indestructible!" -- "Yeah, but -1/-1 isn't damage ;)"
So since Caustic Crawler entered with those three lands, something immediately gets -3/-3. Pin that on PO.
- Keeping Track:
- 3x Lands entered this turn
- Predator Ooze is at -3/-3 (Recall, he's a 9/9)
- Plant Tokens are currently at 6/7
- Currently have 7x Elemental Tokens
- 5x Lands entered
- Predator Ooze is -5/-5
- Plants are now 8/9
- 9x Elementals
He gets mad, but I'm not done yet ;)
- 7x Lands entered
- Predator Ooze is at -7/-7
- Plants are at 10/11
- 11x Elemental Tokens
- 9x Lands entered
- Predator Ooze is -9/-9 and dies to SBA
- Plants are at 12/13
- 13 Elemental Tokens
Now at this point my opponent is furious and begins untapping their things, thinking I am done with my turn.
"WOAH WOAH WOAH, I'm still in my main phase!"
"OH FOR F-S SAKE!" ... "Longest turn in Jund history, much?"
So, I play my land for the turn. Lol a Swamp.
- 10x lands entered this turn
- -1/-1 to something else, I don't recall.
- Plants are 13/14
- 14x Elemental tokens
I tap for , play a Burnished Hart and end my turn.
So he taps out, brings out some more creatures - no Craterhoof Behemoth, and passes reluctantly.
I end up topdecking Stitch Together and laugh like an idiot.
Forest for my land for the turn.
- 1x land entered this turn
- -1/-1 from Caustic Crawler
- Plants are 14/15
- 15x Elemental tokens
Then I sac Burnished Hart for for 2x Forests.
- 3x lands entered
- -3/-3 in total from Caustic Crawler, all of which is taking out some of his smaller guys. Remember, I'm trying to clear the board of small creatures so that in the event of a Craterhoof Behemoth, the impact isn't so strong.
- Plants are now 16/17
- 17x Elemental tokens
At this point my opponent is fuming. He begins to swear under his breath and scoop.
"Woah, what are you doing?!" I laugh.
Haha yeah. Good times. Lol.
2 weeks ago
thyrue13 I would not know unless you tested the deck against several play styles, especially a similar forced combat deck. If possible I would suggest looking into indestructible tactics and removing players indestructible Bonds of Mortality and Hour of Devastation. For indestructible you could go with Spearbreaker Behemoth, Roar of Challenge, Predator Ooze, Heroic Intervention and Inspiring Call.
I would suggest trial and error before using these suggestions.
1 month ago
Ok, this deck has a simple problem. Rather than building win-cons, you've filled a lot of card slots with big, game-ending spells. I'm seeing four combos and big creatures.
The issue with doing this can be explained pretty quickly- Combo cards are effectively blank until you get both parts of them, and high mana cost cards are blank until you can cast them. Most of the game is how you get to your big stuff, rather than staring at them in your hand and wishing you could use them, so that should be reflected on how much of your deck is 'I win if I cast this' compared to 'I need to survive to cast this'.
This basically means that this deck consists of Predator Ooze, Heritage Druid Noble Hierarch Essence Warden and Champion of Lambholt, but your hands will only have one or two of them at most. In modern, most decks will have two removal spells and a way of winning by turn five, so you will lose against most decks unless you get very lucky.
There are some simple solutions to this. This genreally means reducing the number of combo cards while increasing your ways to make sure that they arent 'blank'. Tutors, pseudo tutors, making sure your combos are good without both halves.
You don't want to be attacking enough for Dense Canopy to reliably provide value, so its normally blank- you can replace it. Similarly, Spring Cleaning/Primeval Light takes a long time to be useful, while something like (Felidar Cub/Keening Apparition/Kami of Ancient Law or in particular Qasali Pridemage or Thrashing Brontodon can be bears and destroy all the important stuff the turn evening resolves- its still basically a wipe, its just useful prior to being a wipe.
Your only black cards are Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood. They end the game, but without four of each (and Vizkopa Guildmage) it is difficult for them to be in your hand and to reliably cast them. Spells like Zealous Persecution Mortify or Anguished Unmaking could play well with different gamplans but you should cut both of them, and focus more on two colours, as the mana is a lot easier to provide (as cards you can't cast are basically blank).
So, when you are looking at a card in this deck or to add to this deck, think through several things. 'How does it help me' 'When does it help me' and 'when don't I want it'. This means finding versatile cards which can destroy enchantments but are also creatures or have multiple modes (hello Austere Command/Primal Command). Try to pick cards that don't just help with one of your gamplans, but all your gameplans. Similarly. if a gamplan just isn't working out, consider cutting it for more support, or cutting something else to support it more.
I really reccomend focussing on 1 drops that help generate mana/life, and 5 drops that have a big impact the moment they are played (Thragtusk, Painful Quandary) etc. A set of 2/3 mana cards that form your combos or can search your library for them (Idyllic Tutor, Lost Auramancers etc) and a smaller number of wincons. Foccusing in on what you want to do really helps you with picking cards that help you get there.
1 month ago
Kjartan Wow! Some really great points here. I think I got caught up in all the fun slime/ooze cards and tried to do too much. I'd like to rework it into a Jund tribal, focused around multiples of Bloodhall Ooze, Necrotic Ooze and Predator Ooze. Expanding and including more red and black cards means I can add a few Hanweir Garrison and Hanweir Battlements safely. Balancing the colors of the deck to be more even would be great.
It'd be great if you wanted to share your ideas for the deck, I'd really appreciate it!!
1 month ago
After a few more games with the deck, I would like to continue making the deck more threat heavy and resilient against removal. So I made some pretty deep cuts. The cards on the chopping block are the following:
Mirrorweave - just a little too slow and not good if you are up against any removal heavy decks. Much better against decks that rely on mostly creatures, of which there are not many. Humans is the best aggro deck in the format, yet most of its creatures will have +1/+1 counters on them, so mirrorweave isn't great.
Cytoplast Root-Kin - A big mana commitment for something that will only be good with a few other creatures out. I would rather just have removal instead, or a more robust standalone threat.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar- Gets overrun easily if you are losing, and gets hit by lightning bolts after the -2. There are other more robust cards that have a similar effect. However, it is a standalone threat against an empty board that can be hard to get rid of for control, so it may be a sideboard card.
Birds of Paradise - I don't have too many things to ramp into at 3 mana, so I think I am better off running something that I want to draw late game, like Oath of Nissa, which can give me a land early, or a creature late, and isn't just going to die to removal like birds does. I might run 1 more land, and 3 oaths.
Hangarback Walker - not an aggressive card. Even if it does dodge removal, no one cares about it enough to kill it. Mostly blocks, and there's not a ton of blocking in modern.
Abzan Ascendancy - a replacement for nissa that is a bit more robust, and better against the decks with a mix of creatures and removal. It triggers bloodhall ooze twice, and works well with the graft stuff. It also triggers when my ballista or simic initiate runs out of counters.
Dromoka's Command - This deck needs some more removal, but I think it's also important to run cards that are synergystic with the deck. This card fills that role fairly well, especially with a hardened scales out. However, it is dependent on having a creature out, and can be interrupted by removal from the opponent, which is a little iffy.
Oath of Nissa - Our replacement for birds of paradise to act as our 22-24th lands. It also gets most of the stuff in the deck, which means it's a really good late game drop vs. the birds. It also gets us to our key cards like ballista and constrictor more consistently. Plus it sticks around as a green permanent for bloodhall ooze! That's way more important than you might think.
Bloodbraid Elf - I had this card on my list for a while and only recently considered it. It's a powerhouse with a lot of the cards in this deck, since the cascaded spell gets cast first. For instance, anafenza enters the battlefield, and then immediately triggers on Bloodbraid, which can make it a huge hasty creature with a hardened scales out. Same with simic initiate, dromokas command, and plaxcaster. The rest of the time it just gives you so much value. The only card that doesn't work with it is walking ballista, but even that can trigger the anafenza and ascendancy, so it's not horrible.
Plaxcaster Frogling - Another grafter that can protect itself and other creatures if you untap. Being able to protect your big bloodhall oozes from fatal push and other nonsense is going to make a lot of decks not be able to keep up. I admit it's probably the weakest card in the deck, but I want to try it out anyways. Grafting has proven to be very good, even on a lowly simic initiate. Other options for this slot are Trinket Mage (for the 5th and 6th copies of ballista), Predator Ooze, Ajani, Caller of the Pride, Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, Liliana, the Last Hope (mostly for recurring stuff), and Jadelight Ranger