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Mistcutter Hydra Discussion
17 hours ago
I would take out two Savageborn Hydras and put in something like Mistcutter Hydra or Vastwood Hydra. Also, Fanatic of Xenagos was the most fun card for me to use when Ravnica was still in standard. I would try to run Titan's Strength too, because it lets you scry, which is great. Try also running Lightning Bolts and Magma Jets, burn is important,and Magma Jet lets you scry 2.I can't tell you how many times Gruul Charm has helped me. Gets rid of pesky fliers, and also gets you a butt load of practically unblock-able combat damage, because they usually had a couple land bodies on the field. Gruul Charm would be a near end game finisher. I use to smash the crap out of people with my elf if I got mana/creature screwed, by just dumping things like Titan's Strength and Giant Growth onto it, which Giant Growth is an absolute must. Ruric Thar, the Unbowed is also a great one for when you are in a pinch against control.Clan Defiance is a pretty fun 1 of, Ground Assault is pretty good removal, Kessig Wolf Run is good, and so is Skarrg, the Rage Pits. You should also run 1 or 2 Stomping Grounds. Good luck with the deck, and Long Live Gruul!!!!
19 hours ago
By my count, there are only 3 cards that can benefit from Vorel's ability: Champion of Lambholt, Chasm Skulker, and Mistcutter Hydra. I think it's great that you don't rely on your General to make the deck work, but it would be good to have some more synergies. Have you thought about using creatures with the Graft mechanic? That seems pretty cool. My Vorel TL uses a lot of the Level Up mechanic to get meek dudes to grow very fast. I had also been considering making one with a Modular mechanic sub-theme with the Arcbound duders.
1 day ago
toastytoast dude thank you so much for that feedback! I was really curious as to what to look for in other matchups and I think I'm totally on your side about the Dig Through Time and Mistcutter Hydra. One other thing I'm a little worried about is Elspeth, Sun's Champion Have you matched up with a lot of them, and if so, what has been your gameplan?
1 day ago
I mean I can see why you would like it, it's not terrible it does seem hopeful, I feel Dig Through Time is just as effective in most games the only place the hydra would be better would be in a control matchup, but if it's that late and lets say you're playing against control, Mistcutter Hydra seems like it would win you the game more often at that point. U/W doesn't seem to have to many instant speed answers for a big Mistcutter, and against U/B you need to look out for Hero's Downfall hitting what you get off Genesis Hydra anyway. Since you don't have a sideboard yet, I would suggest 2-3 Mistcutter(depending on the Meta you play in, if you don't have many control decks it might be better to run something else). I'll suggest Feed the Clan in the Sideboard for aggro match ups, it's not perfect, but it can help. It might be worth running Anger of the Gods once again you run into the issue of running 8 mana dorks, but you should be able to play around that with this deck, also in Sideboard consider Stubborn Denial and Disdainful Stroke, the Denials can help get through a Stormbreath Dragon or other generally counterable creature against control in later game. I hope some of these suggest help.
2 days ago
I like your deck overall. I think the weakness is in the Obscuring Æther not really providing much in terms of what the deck can do. I like the previous suggestion for Savage Knuckleblade. It kicked my mardu dragon's ass in a pptq last week and likely belongs in any Temur deck. Also some anti-control options are the khans Surrak and Mistcutter Hydra as both cards can't be countered.
2 days ago
Thanks for all the great suggestions guys! Really appreciated!First off, DeathbyCards200, this is a standard deck, so that means that I can only use the last few blocks, currently, that means theros, !15, and Khans Of Tarkir. The broodmaster seems like a good suggestion; I'll see about maybe adding that in.Second, hamie96 so... This is supposed Be more of an Aggressive ramp deck, and to be honest I think that by the time I get a Hornet Queen out I've either already stomped my opponent or lost. With Mistcutter Hydra I think I'm gunna sideboard him, (Great suggestion BTW, forgot about him!). Stampeding Elk Herd and Heroes' Bane: Love those guys, gunna add them in a second, great idea.However, the Nylea, God of the Hunt is a bit exp ensive for me, (my price range for this deck was maybe $20-30 with sideboard) and $4.50 apiece is a tad bit expensive.Bow of Nylea and Frontier Siege: gonna test with them, but they seem a bit redundant. I already have enough ramp that the extra 2G a turn is nice but isn't really worth a card slot, as when I hit 4 mana I'll want to drop a Surrak, the Hunt Caller or a Polukranos, World Eater to apply pressure. As for the bow, again, somewhat redundant, the death touch doesn't he much as I mostly have big creatures, the lifegain might be needed but I prefer Nylea's Disciple. The counters seem like a needless mana sink, becuause the difference between 4 6/6's and 3 6/6's + a 7/7 is not enough to warrant a card slot. Thanks again for the wonderful suggestions guys!
2 days ago
Glisten No problem!
I think to add a budget element you can take out the Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Primeval Titan and of course Garruk Wildspeaker. And then throw back in a fourth Assault Formation, a fourth Mistcutter Hydra, a forest to replace Nykthos and a fourth Carven Caryatid to give you another draw.
I've also been playing recently with one Break Through the Line in my main deck, which has awesome synergy with Assault Formation since you'll have a butt-load of Defenders out to ramp with anyway, plus it's a super budget card!
The only card I haven't been able to find good budget alternative for is Sylvan Caryatid; mainly because you really need that any color mana gen for Banefire and/or Break Through the Line as well as the defender for the Axebane, and the aded bonus of it having Hexproof is really great as well. If you have any suggestions for replacements there I'd love to hear them!
CREATURES:2x Colossus of Akros 4x Mistcutter Hydra 4x Overgrown Battlement 2x Primordial Hydra 4x Sylvan Caryatid 4x Traproot Kami 4x Carven Caryatid 4x Axebane Guardian 4x Assault Formation
Enchantment:4x Assault Formation
**So the original decklist had 2 fewer forest and 2 Dense Canopy, but I found mana was a problem playtesting so I added the forests, other than that the decklist should be the original!
2 days ago
Mistcutter Hydra will be getting put in here somewhere, I'll probably take one of the two drops out for it.
CurtainSnatch that's pretty much it, but thought it'd be a fun idea nevertheless.
Choke is nice also, your too kind.
Thankyou all for the suggestions, much appreciated. I'll have to give test all these out and see how well it works.
I believe I need to put maybe an extra land in also.
|Power / Toughness||0/0|
|Avg. draft pick||2.39|
|Avg. cube pick||4.23|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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