Sacrifice Welding Jar: Regenerate target artifact.
|Want (2)||Hurdein , skate4lifer|
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|Double Masters (2XM)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Welding Jar Discussion
2 months ago
You need to decide what you want the deck to do before you can start cutting cards. Without knowing your build goal, you will not be able to know where to cut.
What do you wan this deck to do? Examples/ideas:
Is this deck mainly aggro? then keep the big monsters and the ramp. Cut the little creatures that are not mana dorks or cost reduction.
Is this deck mid-range good stuff? then cut creatures until you get 14-18, And add interaction cards to stop or negate your opponent's plays.
Is this a combo deck of some kind? For example; Is it built around Icy Manipulator + Voltaic Key for it's control? then get rid of the other stuff that is not part of that game plan.
Or is it going to cheat stuff out with Amulet and bridge? Then get rid of the icys and keys and focus on cheating big fat bombs out early.
Is it a toolbox deck? then cut your bombs and strong cards to 1 copy each and add more tutors to the deck.
These are just a tiny sample of archetypes, I am just showing how you can decide what kind of deck this is. Once you do, a lot of the cuts may become obvious depending on what you want for the deck.
But there are some cuts you should do no matter what goal you have:
-3 Fabricate (You already have 4 tinkers and 2 tezzerets), -1 Black Vise (Without support for it only 1 copy of this is just an annoyance when it shows up in your hand or is in play), -1 Paradox Engine (This is a freaking amazing card but it does not do a lot for this particular deck) , -1 Winter Orb (Like vise, without support it is not that useful with 1 copy), -1 Colossus of Akros (You have better big bombs already), -4 Etched Champion (this is a vanilla 2/2 most of the time and is probably the worst creature in your list), -4 Ornithopter (These are okay with the other cards in your deck but you will ramp into big stuff so fast they are just not too useful), -4 Welding Jar (at the very least cut it down to 2 since it synergizes with Academy Ruins. But Academy Ruins, Tinker, and Tezzeret the Seeker do the same thing kind of as this already. Id cut all of them to the maybeboard and see how it plays).
In a vacuum, none of these cards are bad by themselves. But none of these cards help you reach your goals for the deck. And only having 1 of something has a very low chance of seeing play. So if it does see play, it needs to do big things for you.
For your lands, they are another resource for the deck. So I would suggest filling in your land base with support cards. Stuff like;
+3 Buried Ruin (if you dont want to get more academy ruins), +2 Rogue's Passage (they don't hurt and can let you win off the back of one of your big creatures), +2 Arch of Orazca (really, slots of any land that gives card advantage), +5 more Islands or so, whatever gets you to 20-22 lands. If you dont want any of the other non-island cards, just add islands.
Your deck has very little interaction and I would suggest adding some to the deck. There are hundreds of options but I would look to add stuff that is similar to any of the following cards:
Spine of Ish Sah, Unstable Obelisk, or Meteor Golem. These cards synergize with academy ruins and buried ruin and can be Tinker targets when you need them. Just 1 or 2 copies of cards like these in the deck you can tutor for. Once you bring one of them online, you can keep bringing them back repeatedly to destroy your opponent's game state.
Then you need instant speed answers you can use to respond to what your opponent's do. Interaction is important and you will lose games just because you didnt have a Disenchant in your hand. Add copies of stuff like Scour from Existence, Titan's Presence, Not of This World or even repeatable stuff like Capsize or similar.
I am not saying you have to do any of the things I suggested. But you do need to decide what you want to do with the deck, cut cards, and add land and add interaction to the deck or it may just stay a hot mess like it is now.
2 months ago
Artifacts I recommend that Salvaging Station can grab:
Other artifacts I'd recommend:
Don't know about cuts. Hope that helps. Cheers!
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4 months ago
@5dollarMTG: Thank you for the Deck list! Love this one, it’s fun and annoying. Only downside is playing against an opponent who can easily get rid of your Myr Landshaper. Hoping for a Liquimetal Coating while having tons of (useless) artifact-destroyers in your hand can be painful. For this reason I added a few Welding Jars just in case. Having one Hoard-Smelter Dragon in the deck seemed enough for me, since surviving until you draw it is easy after having played Splinter :)
5 months ago
As far as when to play Hangarback or Ballista, it will really depend on the matchup. If you're against something like infect, or devoted-druid, you'll want Ballista down asap so you can mess with your opponents plans and stop them getting an early win. Other games, it's better to hold onto Ballista for the late game. Generally the timing to play Ballista will depend on what you're up against, and will be something to learn over time. For Hangarback, you generally want to play it T2 if you're planning to have 3 lands but only casting a cmc2 creature on T3 (because this means that you can also tap Hangarback for an extra counter). Generally it's not worth waiting to play Hangarback, as it's better just to get it down early and slowly make it bigger to put pressure on your opponent to deal with it.
As far as sideboard cards for Karn, you'll want to scope out what your meta is like and bring hate cards for what people are running. I would say including 1-2 Liquimetal Coating is a must, as it lets Karn start sniping lands (turn them to artifacts with 0 toughness using Karns plus ability, so they die). Other than that, these are probably some good options to consider:
Wurmcoil Engine (seeing as you already have one, and might help in grindy games)
Voltaic Key (useful if you have a Steel Overseer out that isn't being dealt with)
Lodestone Golem (slows down storm)
What cards you include will depend on what kinds of decks you typically find yourself up against, but also your budget. So far my advise has all been assuming that you're wanting to keep this relatively cheap - but this might not be the case? If you intend to be spending big-bucks on cards, there are more options available, but this might also mean you would want to build a completely different deck to what i've suggested so far (for example, this deck is my current artifact deck, which is a very competitive near-top-tier artifact deck. I've assumed so far that you're playing slightly more casually, and I might be wrong here?)
6 months ago
I would maybe up lands to 35, but that's just me since it is the lowest I'm normally comfortable with going for lands.
Using cards like Rebuild and Retract with a lot of mana artifacts like Welding Jar , Paradise Mantle , Zuran Orb , Ornithopter , etc. will make a pretty insane near storm levels of card draw combo to just go digging through your entire deck. Other low or cmc artifacts can be used as well like Alchemist's Vial and other 'egg' cards.
7 months ago
I used to play a decent budget affinity deck kinda like this. First off: I wouldn't play 4 copies of Welding Jar maybe one or two. second: take out the set of Paradise Mantle and put in four Springleaf Drum third: Steel Overseer is only $2 and it's really powerful. I would play it. Vault Skirgeis great with Cranial Plating and gains a ton of life. You should try it. With the banning of Mox Opal trying to play three drops with sixteen land looks difficult. I don't know though because my list is different. I would cut Taste for Mayhem. Nice deck and good luck!