Collective Brutality

Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Frontier Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Eldritch Moon (EMN) Rare

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Collective Brutality

Sorcery

Escalate - Discard a card. (Pay this cost for each mode beyond the first.)

Choose one or more -

-Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose an instant or sorcery card from it. That player discards that card.

-Target creature gets -2/-2 until end of turn.

-Target opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.

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Collective Brutality Discussion

Mandalorian on Modern Gideon Tribal

5 days ago

Concealed Courtyard?

What is Flickerwisp for?

How about some sweepers? With limited creatures a Damnation or two could be nice if you need it.

Collective Brutality is excellent with Lingering Souls

Mandalorian on Mono Black

5 days ago

ClockworkSwordfish, Shrieking Affliction is Racks 5-8

Liliana of the Veil is such a house in this deck but I understand the budget may not allow it, gotta mention it at least though.

Mutavault is a great alternate win condition if you need a creature without playing actual creatures which most 8 Rack decks don't. If you do play creatures then I would say Pack Rat or Bloodghast are about the only things worth running.

Smallpox is very good interaction and works well with Bloodghast

Thoughtseize is the best discard spell

Fatal Push>Doom blade

IoK, which someone already mentioned

Dakmor Salvage works very well with Ravens Crime

Collective Brutality

Mandalorian on Mardu Mid-range Shenigans

5 days ago

I really like Mardu as well, it does lack in that creature category like you said though. You miss out on Scooze, Goyf, Flayer, Tracker, etc... You have four drops covered with cards like Chandra Torch, Olivia Voldaren, and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, but the lower end of the curve suffers. I think Mardu's strong suit are planeswalkers and tokens and perhaps you should play to those strengths with creatures like Young Pyromancer, Monastery Mentor, and Butcher of the Horde or more super friends with Chandra Torch, Ajani Vengeant, Liliana, the Last Hope, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, Gideon Jura, Elspeth, Sun's Champion. I think either of those options or a mixture of both is probably better than playing Tidehollow, Finks, or Brimaz.

As far as other card choices, some fastlands like Concealed Courtyard or Blackcleave Cliffs can help the mana base be less painful. Some lifegain other than Vents would be nice with Bobs in your deck, perhaps Collective Brutality, or Lightning Helix. This way your game 1's against burn don't feel hopeless. One other thing Mardu misses out on is hitting noncreature permanents since it doesn't have Pulse or Decay. To fix this you may need to play some number of Anguished Unmaking or Utter End.

IlGuale on Aetherborn Masterrace

1 week ago

Hi! I love black-based midrange lists and i have a pair of suggestions for you. I would go with a more traditional split of 6-8 removals and 6-8 discard spells. Now you have 12 removal and 4 creatures with Deathtouch, which is like a nerfed removal (it can be destroyed and must block to deal damage), so you are good against deck with a lot of creatures, but have no way to deal with noncreature spells. Let's start talking about removals. I am assuming you are on a budget because you don't run Fatal Push and Dismember. The problem is that you can't touch things like Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Gurmag Angler and big beaters like them. IMO your best bet in a mono-B build is a mix of 2-3 Doom Blade's variations like Victim of Night, Smother, Ultimate Price and Go for the Throat. Walk the Plank is also solid, but being a sorcery is a big disadvantage. A one mana removal can come in handy and if you can't afford Fatal Push, Disfigure is a good substitute. It doesn't kill Tarmogoyf or Death's Shadow, but it is a good turn one play against smaller threats and lategame becomes a combat trick. Still, i would not play more than 2 copies mainboard, with maybe 1-2 in sideboard against Elves, Spirits, Counter Company and similar. Then i would replace Grasp of Darkness with Dismember, which kills almost everything in the format, can cost just one mana and is now fairly cheap (around 2.5 $) so you should not have problem buying a pair. On a personal note, i like to play a wipe (Flaying Tendrils, Drown in Sorrow, Mutilate, Languish...) in my mainboard, just in case.

Talking about discard, i strongly suggest you to buy a playset of Inquisition of Kozilek, because it is one of the strongest discard ever printed and is cheaper than ever. With enough money, 3-4x Inquisition of Kozilek, 2-3x Thoughtseize and 1x Collective Brutality would be my go to. Sadly that is not my case, so i have to play with 4x IoK, 2x Duress and a single Wrench Mind and i can grant you that it works reasonably. A pair of Duresses in the side is also really helpful against decks with a low number of creatures. I hope this can be of some help.

RubyStrings on PTsmitty

1 week ago

Revised Trade

My:

28 - Marsh Flats

26 - Liliana, the Last Hope

22 - 2x Collective Brutality

86

Your:

52 - Scalding Tarn

16 - Hostage Taker

16 - Polluted Delta

84

And on the Arid Mesa, it's in a deck currently, sorry.

RubyStrings on PTsmitty

1 week ago

One quick note, I actually added a few things to my binder that are on your want list. Collective Brutality, Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh I think are the only ones. So if you prioritize those above any of the ones on your list let me know.

As is, I like this:

My

Marsh Flats - 28

Liliana, the Last Hope - 26

your

Scalding Tarn - 52

Let me get back to you on Thoughtseize for Hostage Taker. A friend of mine might be needing the Thoughtseize soon, so I'll check on it tomorrow.

Xica on YamishiTheWickedOne

1 week ago

Ok, so the list is what i thought + combat tricks.

In my humble opinion one should build decks against other decks that are expected to be faced with the said deck.
Before the banning of Splinter Twin instant speed was a lot more important.
At the moment, its great against some fringe decks, and marginal benefits against more popular ones.

That is why i think that certain powerful sorceries add more value, especially in midrange decks.
Collective Brutality is good against burn, as it effectively plays 3 good cards for the mana cost of one. That is an increase in tempo, even if at the first look the slower speed would indicate otherwise.

Removing planeswalker is really meta dependant, still if Nahiri, the Harbinger ultimate is a large part of the meta, i think its worth to have removal for the planeswalker. Even if its Dreadbore vs Terminate



I have nothing against Lightning Bolt.
I have problems with putting that card where it doesn't belong. If a deck has better removal available, and wins at instant speed, without dealing damage beforehand, why does it benefit from Lightning Bolt?
In such a case it seems to me that Lightning Bolt only functions as a sub par removal in that deck compared to Path to Exile or Fatal Push, in certain cases (against stuff like Gurmag Angler/Tasigur, the Golden Fang) even Vapor Snag can be a better removal.
And yes i play a Abrade over lightning bolt in one of my decks. However that deck must have answers for Aether Vial.As soon as bolt can remove noncreature artifacts, i will play only the "best card in red".

Lightning Bolt never being a dead card, because it can go to face is a lie - or misconception at least.
If you don't have early aggro (before the opponent is able to establish a board presence), or more than 4x Lightning Bolt - its dead.
As the only point of life that matters in this game is the last point.

severininfurs on Rakdos Speedy Vamps

1 week ago

Ouch, yeah, I see your point about Chalice of the Void. About the only one that dodges it is Hollow One and I don't run any artifact destruction mainboard, so the chalice is going to stick. I do own 2x Liliana of the Veil so maybe I can cut 2x Tormenting Voice for them. I have loved her every time she's come down in my control deck, so I know full well how powerful she can be.

Bloodghast I fully intend to add, but I am waiting for IMA to hit so that he hopefully drops a bit in price. I really like him, I just don't own him. Other than that, I think I may swap out Insolent Neonate for Stromkirk Captain, unless you think I'd be better served with another 3 drop, like bringing Vampire Nighthawk mainboard (and using Collective Brutality in the side, instead).

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