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Rules Q&A
Overwhelming Denial
Instant
Surge (You may cast this spell for its surge cost if you or a teammate has cast another spell this turn.)
Overwhelming Denial can't be countered by spells or abilities.
Counter target spell.
zapyourtumor on ULTIMATE AZORIUS CONTROL
2 years ago
Manabase: Temple lands tend to be pretty slow for modern. The filtering is nice but if I ran it I would only run 1, 4 feels like too many. I suggest running some manlands like Hall of Storm Giants and Celestial Colonnade, and maybe some filtering with Castle Vantress (which can enter untapped unlike the temples).
Counters: Counterspell is great. Some of your other choices could probably be improved though. Dovin's Veto is more of a sideboard card, while Force of Negation isn't as good in straight-up control lists since you go down on card advantage. Archmage's Charm is a strong counterspell that can also draw cards or steal an opponents threat which could be a Ragavan, DRC, hexdrinker, esper sentinel equipped with a hammer, etc, and I'd slot it in over Render Silent.
Overwhelming Denial is very bad because you will almost never have surge. If you want to play 4 mana counters I suggest good old Cryptic Command. Ashiok's Erasure is similarly bad. Even if it handles uncounterable threats (which aren't as numerous as you might think), it's generally better to just remove those threats instead of playing a bad 4 mana counter.
Removal: Verdicts are good (4 is a lot but I frequently see 3). However, Detention Sphere and Ixalan's Binding are both pretty slow removal spells. Sphere is not bad as a 1 of, but Binding is definitely too slow. The best removal spell in white right now is Prismatic Ending which I suggest since it can deal with opponents t1 ragavan and stuff. It would be better if you ran fetches and 1 three-color triome, but it's still not bad. Solitude is another option for removing bigger creatures. Cyclonic Rift is just bad, because bounce spells require you to waste another counterspell dealing with them. This deck is maybe the one deck in modern where you would overload it, but an overloaded cyclonic rift is to save your ass when you're behind, and if you're at 7 lands you're probably far ahead already. I'd just replace with more removal/counters.
Wincons: The planeswalkers look pretty solid, but I'm not sure Luminarch Ascension is worth it, given how mana-intensive it is. You could maybe work in 1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria which is a control powerhouse.
Scytec on Breaking the Stack (Advice?)
3 years ago
Given your quantity of instant and sorcery spells, Overwhelming Denial could just be another copy of Counterspell for you. Arcane Denial and Wizard's Retort would also be valid options in the counter slot. Curiosity combos really well with Niv-Mizzet, Parun, if you run a card such as Thassa's Oracle, Laboratory Maniac, or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries this combo will just win you the game. I know it isn't a win via copy shenanigans on the stack, but it is consistent and powerful. Good luck, have fun!
0rc on talrand 100 buck's
4 years ago
First off: this is a fantastic budget build. I love the dramatic/scepter combo—how quickly can we assemble it? I know you looked at my $75 budget deck and I hope you were able to gain something from it (thanks for the upvote and comment as well).
Here are my suggestions: Dizzy Spell will transmute for our hate pieces or our Sol Ring, if needed. Trophy Mage will fetch our Worn Powerstone. Alternatively, Drift of Phantasms will transmute for our Worn Powerstone, if needed. However, it is advised to have less creatures in Talrand for obvious reasons, including the following.
It will be crucial that we have rock power as quickly as possible once we have our dramatic/scepter combo pieces. This is why we should run Mass Polymorph and Synthetic Destiny. With Talrand, and a couple of drakes, we could Mass Polymorph into tutors for both all of our combo pieces at once and have them in hand.
This leads to the next area for consideration: protection. In my humble opinion, we are running a somewhat burdensome combo that realistically announces to your opponents “I’m going to win next turn.” (It’s ok, that’s my main beef with my own budget Talrand build as well). Also, once your opponents lose to this deck once, even those $2k cEDH decks seated at your table will lay the hate on you. Solution—You need more decisive and versatile countermagic to deal with the hate. Devious Cover-Up and Supreme Will are both decisive and versatile and serve purposes beyond mere countermagic. Overwhelming Denial is very decisive. Mental Misstep is a mini Force of Will. Abjure is decisive and has synergy with your commander. Void Shatter is harsh and decisive. Disrupt and Force Spike are soft, but you will be glad to have them, especially in a competitive meta. You may want to consider some oddball counters such as Time Stop. It’s too bad Cryptic Command and Mystic Confluence don’t fit the budget (or could they????). That’s maximal versatility.
Last word: by running Fact or Fiction, you are giving your opponents free reign to toss one of your combo pieces in the graveyard. Consider that. Also, is Opt really that great? I’ve been wondering about it in my own build. Also, just to nitpick and clean your title up: it’s “bucks”, not “buck’s” and you’re $5 over your $100 limit :)
I’m going to borrow some from you. Thanks.
zapyourtumor on Controlling and Thieving Rogues
4 years ago
Alright I did some digging, here are some other options: Dimir Charm for flexibility also dimir = sneaky rogue so passes flavor check; Admiral's Order because rogue attac; Ceremonious Rejection for sideboard; Disallow might be a bit high curve for this deck but its a good counterspell; Disdainful Stroke for sideboard again; maybe Overwhelming Denial following a Thieves' Guild Enforcer?
Summary: I think the best ones to replace Quench with are Admiral's Order and Spell Pierce
desmondwrite on
4 years ago
Ikoria & Commander 2020 released.
SPELLS
Replaced Pounce with Beast Within
Replaced Awakening of Vitu-Ghazi with Voracious Greatshark
Replaced Caustic Caterpillar with Overwhelming Denial
Replaced Cackling Counterpart with Sea-Dasher Octopus
Replaced Maraleaf Pixie with Ominous Seas
LANDS
Replaced Forest with Temple of Mystery
Replaced Island with Command Tower
evilclown5609 on
4 years ago
I love you and your great. this deck is a modern-day masterpiece.
Some suggestions:
Choke/Eaten by Spiders/Primeval Light/Capsize/Krosan Grip - This is a control shell. It IS NOT YOUR JOB to make sure they can play the game.
Explore/Harrow/Growth Spiral/Abundance - harder, better, ... you know the rest.
Veil of Summer/Voidslime/Tale's End/Last Word/Overwhelming Denial, Spell Burst, Thryx, the Sudden Storm - "no"
glhf<3
T_Dog345 on T_Dog345
4 years ago
Alright, let's see if maybe this will help. I'm really new to everything on here sorry. //Lands 2 Dismal Backwater 1 Dimir Guildgate 2 Submerged Boneyard 4 Evolving Wilds 2 Desert of the Mindful 1 Arcane Lighthouse 1 Reliquary Tower 1 Temple of the False God
//Spells 4 Duress 2 Ghoulcaller's Chant 3 Macabre Waltz 3 Sleep 4 Slip Through Space 2 Taigam's Scheming 4 Tome Scour 4 Lich's Caress 4 Sovereign's Bite 4 Resourceful Return 3 March of the Returned 1 In Garruk's Wake 1 Army of the Damned 1 Dutiful Return 1 Decompose 1 Worst Fears 1 Rise of the Dark Realms 4 Hubris 4 Countermand 1 Tezzeret's Touch 1 Paranoid Delusions 1 Coerced Confession 2 Mind Sculpt 1 Compelling Argument 1 Index 1 Redirect 1 Dream Twist 2 Gift of Tusks 2 Rewind 3 Thought Scour 2 Psychic Spiral 1 Gigadrowse 4 Negate 1 Overwhelming Denial 1 Dramatic Reversal 1 Impulse 2 Cremate 3 Crypt Incursion 2 Grim Harvest 1 Scarab Feast 1 Grim Return 1 Gravepurge 1 Dark Ritual 4 Font of Return 3 Death's Approach 2 Cast into Darkness 1 Triskaidekaphobia 1 Grave Betrayal 1 Endless Ranks of the Dead 3 Invisibility 2 Curiosity 4 Curse of the Bloody Tome 3 Illusory Wrappings 3 Ice Over 1 Chronic Flooding 1 Navigator's Ruin 1 Chant of the Skifsang 3 Bone Saw 3 Millstone 3 Tormod's Crypt 2 Trepanation Blade 1 Ghoulcaller's Bell 1 Masterwork of Ingenuity 1 Sol Ring 1 Nihil Spellbomb 1 Illusionist's Bracers 1 Codex Shredder 1 Profane Memento 1 Loxodon Warhammer 1 Bonehoard 1 Trusty Machete 1 Mirari 1 Argentum Armor
//Creatures 1 Archetype of Finality 1 Overeager Apprentice 1 Agent of Erebos 1 Butcher Ghoul 1 Risen Executioner 1 Dutiful Attendant 1 Sly Requisitioner 1 Sepulchral Primordial 2 Zombie Assassin 1 Nightmare 1 Marshmist Titan 3 Graven Abomination 4 Workshop Assistant 4 Guardians of Meletis 2 Phyrexian Revoker 2 Ornithopter 1 Juggernaut 2 Veilborn Ghoul 2 Minotaur Abomination 4 Undead Servant 3 Gravedigger 2 Mogis's Marauder 2 Bogstomper 4 Walking Corpse 3 Corpse Hauler 4 Gravewaker 2 Returned Phalanx 3 Faerie Miscreant 1 Master of Predicaments 2 Benthic Giant 1 Stormtide Leviathan 4 Screeching Skaab 2 Seer of the Last Tomorrow 1 Floating-Dream Zubera 3 Fog Bank 1 Possessed Skaab 3 Armored Skaab 2 Murmuring Phantasm 1 Wall of Frost 4 Doorkeeper 1 Clever Impersonator 1 Jace's Mindseeker 1 Oculus 1 Mindshrieker 1 Willbreaker 1 Spellweaver Eternal 1 Wall of Mist 1 Sultai Skullkeeper 1 Diregraf Captain
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