Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
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|Ravnica Allegiance (RNA)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Quench occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.16%
2 weeks ago
Hello all, I have been playing with the Oko structure deck, that I updated using Affinity For MTG's youtube video, and just bought the Simic Mutology structure deck as well as the Simic Guild Kit, as well as some booster pack cards. I'm trying to combine them into a 75 card deck, with 15 cards I know to take out for 60. Based off the cards in these 3 decks I'd like to build the deck around a constant flow of powerful monsters through the +1/+1 counters, as well as overloading on mana and drawing a lot. Some of the main points of damage right now are Oko who can just turn everything into a base 10/10 and distribute lots of +1/+1s, vorel who can double somethings counters, zegana who gives trample, galloping lizrog which can take all the +1/+1s and double them onto himself, nylea's forerunner for trample, progenitors mimic and miming slime to make clones, and wild born preserver for reach and his +1/+1s. But I also have things like coiling oracle/fathom mage to draw a lot, and gyre sage/maraleaf pixie for tons of mana. So I'd like to just find a good strategy in this mess lol.
The total card list of everything I will have is: (stuff with "x" seems important to me) Creatures: 1 Oko, the Tricksterx, 1 Vorel of the Hull Cladex, 1 Zegana, Utopian Speakerx, 1 Momir Vig, Simic Visionaryx, 2 Cloudfin Raptor, 4 Coiling Oraclex, 1 Cytoplast Root-Kin, 1 Elusive Krasis, 4 Faerie Vandalx, 1 Fathom Magex, 1 Frilled Mysticx, 1 Galloping Lizrogx, 1 Gyre Sagex, 4 Keeper of Fablesx, 3 Maraleaf Pixiex, 1 Nimbus Swimmer, 1 Nylea's Forerunnerx, 3 Paradise Druid, 2 Plaxmantax, 1 Progenitor Mimicx, 1 Protean Hulkx, 3 Spectral Sailorx, 4 Sphinx of Foresight, 2 Surveilling Sprite, 1 Trygon Predator, 2 Vigean Graftmage, 3 Vigean Hydropon, 1 Wildborn Preserverx, 2 Zameck Guildmagex,
Instants: 1 Applied Biomancyx, 1 Disdainful Strokex, 1 Gift of Strengthx, 2 Oko's Hospitalityx, 3 Optx, 1 Prying Eyes, 1 Quenchx, 1 Radical Ideax, 2 Rapid Hybridization, 1 Return of the Wildspeakerx, 1 Voidslime,
Artifacts: 2 Simic Signet,
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
That's hard to bear, for most. The thing I do to keep my decks cheap is avoid Shock Lands( Steam Vents and the like) and cards like Fabled Passage . I'm not denying their value, but are they really 10-20 times more valuable (in the game) than a card like Temple of Epiphany ? They both tap, and both give an add on.
Also, Sleeves exist, to protect cards. Cards can be bought cheaper when they are in a less-than-new condition. And foils are also a bit unnecessary, if your goal is to stay cheap.
Now for an actual idea. I was looking at the cards you liked at the top of this post. Pteramander and Crackling Drake are both big on instants, and getting Humongous as a result of them. Enigma Drake has already rotated, it is no longer standard legal. Two other red and blue cards that get Gargantuan as a result of instants/sorceries are Erratic Cyclops and Wee Dragonauts . Cards that help you cast such spells are Goblin Electromancer , and (sorta) Spellkeeper Weird . The instants/sorceries you want to cast with this can be damaging type, card advantage type, orcreature buff/debuff, or even the first two of these combined. (Counterspells are essential, too)
For Damage, Shock , Lava Coil and Electrodominance are good. Card-Drawing, Opt , Winged Words , and Chemister's Insight all draw and give card advantage. Infuriate , Sure Strike , and Sonic Assault both buff/debuff. Ral's Outburst both damages and gives card advantage. For a damaging deck, you may want Electrostatic Field . For a card-drawing deck, The Magic Mirror and Niv-Mizzet, Parun make a great combo. If you want to simply buff your creatures to victory, make sure to keep the pumping creatures.
Counterspells are essential, I find Quench is surprisingly useful. Ionize is great too, and everyone seems to love Mystical Dispute too, although it is pricey. Convolute is a cheaper (monetary-wise) thing to use.
I hope this helped you decide on cards!
2 months ago
I think having a couple of "sweeper" options mainboard is worth considering, too; Cyclonic Rift is probably the best for its versatility, but Crush of Tentacles is a good budget option that can also be your backup wincon.
If you'd like to stay heavy on counterspells, too, Supreme Will will give you a little more flexibility than the true hard counters do.
3 months ago
One thing I’ve noticed that your deck is very counterspell heavy, with 11 in the main deck; in general, from personal experience, decks that are heavily counterspell based aim to control the tempo of the game, slowing their opponent’s game plans while advancing their own. However, the quality of counterspells aren’t great in your deck and get very quickly outclassed (see Izzet Charm / Quench as opposed to something like Absorb / Frilled Mystic ) and there aren’t any flash threats present in your deck that aren’t cheap counterspells. Looking at Azorius and Simic Flash, they hold up the threat of counterspells, but also have ways to apply pressure in case there is no need to counterspell, such as Nightpack Ambusher and Archangel Avacyn Flip. While you have Cryptic Serpent and Enigma Drake , playing those on curve prevents you from holding up counterspells, and every turn later they’re played allows your opponents to go over your game plan, and potentially beat you. Maybe adding something like Young Pyromancer or Thing in the Ice Flip would be better than Curious Homunculus Flip, as one can generate a huge battlefield and the other can provide a huge threat and tempo shift. Bedlam Reveler can also be better late game, as even though you have to tap on your turn for it, it can help refill your hand. Improving the quality of counterspells with cards like Ionize and Mindswipe could make your deck much better late game, and maybe adding more flash threats like Elder Deep-Fiend , Brazen Borrower and Brineborn Cutthroat could help apply more pressure to your opponents. Cards like AEtherize to act as a pseudo Settle the Wreckage could be a great idea as well. Of course, this kind of Izzet Flash deck not be the goal of your deck; in that case, perhaps remove Quench and Izzet Charm , as these kinds of counterspells are only really good early game and are dead draws later on.
3 months ago
: If I was to play a card that could flashback spells, I'd rather be playing Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip over Briefing. The lifegain on Absorb makes it better than Ionize in my opinion and Censor being cycle-able makes me want it over Quench . I don't think the difference in paying 1 or 2 mana is enough to justify losing the ability to cycle over.
I've only been able to play Pioneer once so far, and I played Esper Dragons as my cards for Jeskai hadn't come in the mail yet. I'll hopefully be able to play this list on Fri and/or Sat.
3 months ago
This LOOKS like a solid build and the only cards I can think of to consider would be Mission Briefing as a pioneer Snapcaster Mage and maybe Quench / Ionize for alternate Counterspell tech but I think this is a solid layout.... have you been able to play this format yet? I haven't and am curious about jeskai control.