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Rules Q&A
Dimir Guildgate
Land — Gate
Dimir Guildgate enters the battlefield tapped.
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legendofa on lifelink 1-1 chains
1 year ago
The Thief of Sanity set doesn't really focus the life gain strategy, and the Dimir Guildgates mostly slow down your production. They're fun cards, but I would use them in a different deck. At 65 cards, cutting those eight, one Revenge of Ravens, and replacing the lands with or sources would improve speed and consistency.
Some smaller tweaks would be to drop a second Revenge of Ravens for a fourth Ajani's Pridemate, adding some more removal, and maybe another life gain payoff like Indulging Patrician.
thefiresoflurve on Captain N'Ghathrod horror tribe mill
2 years ago
Fair enough, Grell would work well at my table, but not all tables are like mine. And on Grazilax, you're right, maybe a better draw tool would be Kindred Discovery or Reconnaissance Mission (harder to remove, too).
Also, Dimir Guildgate > Vivid Creek.
Phule451 on poke (Dimir Rogues)
3 years ago
Enigma Thief and Thieving Skydiver are great on theme ways to deal with problems on the other side of the board. Yarragoth, Bloodsky Sire with the evasion built into the deck can get you any piece for any occasion on a recurring basis. I’d also reconsider Dimir Guildgate and Submerged Boneyard. I totally get working on a budget, but make entering tapped give you SOMETHING. Sunken Hollow is less than a buck and is gonna come in untapped most of the time. Temple of Deceit is like 50 cents and gives you at least a scary for the bother of coming in tapped. Totally respect the budget side. Hope some of these ideas help ya…
multimedia on Kess Control
3 years ago
Hey, well done so far on a budget.
Some advice to consider is how to improve the manabase on a budget.
- Command Tower: staple land for two or more colored Commander decks.
- Exotic Orchard: staple land when playing three or more colors in multiplayer Commander
- Path of Ancestry: can make any color of mana.
These three lands are called Rainbow lands. Crumbling Necropolis is the Grixis Tri land, it can make any one color of mana you need.
These are budget Fetch lands to search for any basic land.
- Shivan Reef: budget Pain land.
- Sunken Hollow
- Smoldering Marsh
These two are Tango lands which care about lots of basic lands.
These are Reveal lands that also care about basic lands and have interaction with Tango lands.
Some lands to consider cutting:
- Temple of the False God: will not be able to tap for mana until your turn five or after since you're counting on only land drops to get to five or more lands.
- Dimir Guildgate, Izzet Guildgate and Rakdos Guildgate
- Some basic lands
Updated budget manabase example (38 lands, 24 blue mana sources, 21 black, 20 red):
- 9x Island
- 5x Swamp
- 5x Mountain
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Path of Ancestry
- Crumbling Necropolis
- Grixis Panorama
- Ash Barrens
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
- Shivan Reef
- Sunken Hollow
- Smoldering Marsh
- Frostboil Snarl
- Choked Estuary
- Foreboding Ruins
- Darkwater Catacombs
- Shadowblood Ridge
- Temple of Deceit
- Temple of Epiphany
- Temple of Malice
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Subjective Reality Upgrade
3 years ago
Hey, you're welcome.
40 lands is a lot of lands and you also have ramp sources to help to make mana. You would be fine cutting 2-4 lands and filling those spots with low CMC budget cards that draw such as Omen of the Sea , Wall of Omens and Brainstorm . The idea is more draw that also has interaction with Aminatou could replace some lands because overall these cards are better for gameplay and the draw can potentially help to draw lands. You have a good number of basic lands for budget and the ratio is also on point. With 16 basic lands then budget dual lands that have interaction with basic lands help for them to ETB untapped.
- Exotic Orchard : staple budget land for three or more colored decks in multiplayer Commander.
- Path of Ancestry : can make one color of the three Esper colors.
- Caves of Koilos
- Prairie Stream : is an Island.
- Sunken Hollow : is an Island.
- Shineshadow Snarl
- Ash Barrens : nice as a potential turn one play to landcycle to get a basic land of your choice for your second turn land for color fixing that you need to cast Aminatou.
- Temple of Enlightenment
- Temple of Deceit
- Mystic Sanctuary
- Bojuka Bog
Ideally, you want most if not all the lands in the manabase to ETB untapped to help gameplay. Since then you can tap the land for mana the turn you play it, but that's impossible when on such a low budget unless playing 30+ basic lands which is not recommended with three colors. The lands that you play that will always ETB tapped should have other uses or be able to make one of any three colors you need. An example is Arcane Sanctum is good, Dimir Guildgate isn't good. If you have to play many lands that always ETB tapped then might as well play the ones that also have bonus interaction with your Commander.
The Scry lands ( Temple of Silence ) and Halimar Depths ETB tapped, but they have interaction with the Aminatou + Guardian + Oath combo. Aminatou can blink a Scry land as the first permanent which lets you scry through the rest of your library to find Strix or another permanent draw source to cast to then draw a win condition to cast. The Gain lands ( Tranquil Cove ) also can be blinked and blinking one of them with the combo gives you infinite life. Consider three of each of Scry lands and Gain lands?
Utility lands such as Mystic Sanctuary give you something when it ETB, can be blinked by Aminatou and be part of the combo. Sanctuary when blinked if you control three other Islands can be a repeatable way to recur an instant or sorcery. It can setup a card with miracle since you recur the card to the top of your library to draw on your next turn or even on an opponent's turn if card with miracle is the first card you draw on opponent's turn.
Example of an upgraded budget manabase:
- 6x Plains, 6x Island, 4x Swamp
- Command Tower , Exotic Orchard , Path of Ancestry , Arcane Sanctum
- Esper Panorama , Ash Barrens , Evolving Wilds
- Halimar Depths , Temple of Enlightenment , Temple of Silence , Temple of Deceit
- Caves of Koilos , Shineshadow Snarl
- Prairie Stream , Sunken Hollow
- Mystic Sanctuary , Bojuka Bog
- Tranquil Cove , Dismal Backwater , Scoured Barrens
acbooster on Arcbound Proliferate
3 years ago
Suggestion: Replace Dimir Guildgate with Underground Sea
I will not take no for an answer
babydaggers on House Dimir
4 years ago
No Dimir Guildgate or Dimir Aqueduct? Might as well, for the theme. Getting a plus one from me, I love Dimir and I love the committed guild deck.
multimedia on Kess Combo
4 years ago
Hey, interesting start on a budget version of Kess.
Some cards to consider adding:
- Baleful Strix
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury
- Arcane Signet: at TCGPlayer can get it for less than $3.
- Izzet Signet
- Dimir Signet: can get it for less than $1.
- Rakdos Signet
- Crumbling Necropolis: Grixis Tri land.
- Shivan Reef: can get it for less than $1.
- Smoldering Marsh
- Grixis Panorama
- Opal Palace
- Dimir Aqueduct
- Izzet Boilerworks
- Rakdos Carnarium
Cards to consider cutting for these:
- Temple of the False God: it will not tap for mana until your fifth turn which is really bad.
- Vivid Marsh: when it runs out of two counters it can only tap for black.
- Dimir Guildgate
- Swiftwater Cliffs
- 4x Mountain
- Guard Gomazoa or Fog Bank
- Sage's Row Denizen
- Izzet Chronarch
- Mnemonic Wall
- Salvager of Secrets
- Possessed Skaab
Baleful Strix is a two drop who draws a card when it ETB, that way you can blink it with Deadeye to draw many cards. When you assemble Deadeye + Drake for infinite mana then being able to infinite blink a creature who draws can draw your win condition or draw and cast all cards in your deck. It's possible you could have a win condition already on the battlefield or in hand or graveyard with Kess, but if not then infinite blinking Strix lets you draw it.
Gonti, Lord of Luxury can be a win condition with Deadeye + Drake. It's not opponent mill, it's better, it's opponent exile their libraries and with infinite mana you get to cast all your opponent's cards. Arcane Signet , Izzet Signet, Dimir Signet, Rakdos Signet are some two drop mana rocks so you're not only relying on lands to have enough mana to cast cards.
I don't think you need to play so many creatures who recur an instant or sorcery because isn't that what Kess is for? That's the advantage of Kess, you get to cast an instant or sorcery from your graveyard on your turns, but once you resolve that spell is exiled. An exiled spell is no longer in your graveyard to recur to your hand. Archaeomancer is the only creature you want for this effect because you also have blink spells as well as Deadeye and creature recursion/reanimation spells for Archaeomancer.
Good luck with your deck.
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