: Target player mills a card. (They put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
, : Sacrifice Codex Shredder: Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Codex Shredder Discussion
2 weeks ago
@ BEDECK: Thanks for the advice. Ashiok, Dream Render is a good addition since Scheming Symmetry with Thought Scour or Codex Shredder against some decks is tantamount to giving your opponent a free Entomb. Adding more removal is also good. Especially with those newer removal spells
1 month ago
Morning, all :)
I've been playing around with Dimir mill in the Modern format, buoyed in part by the excellent Drown in the Loch. At the moment I'm looking at two approaches; the first is a sort of 'suicide mill' where the focus is less on interaction and more on running them out at all costs. At the moment I just can't seem to get it fast enough, so it's the weaker option.
The second, and the one I'm asking for help with, is a more meta-mill sort of deck, leaning on tempo and control while gradually milling. This deck will have a lot more interaction, including a number of creatures and would be as likely to win through damage as forcing the last draw.
For this deck concept I can't get it out of my head that Dauthi Voidwalker doesn't present a load of interesting opportunities, with cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable and Maddening Cacophony dumping tons of cards into what would be the graveyard. The Voidwalker is actually massively problematic in its synergy (or lack thereof) with many traditional mill cards as it keeps those cards from going into the graveyard and therefor often leaving options like Jace's Phantasm and Visions of Beyond depowered. Still, I can't help but think it has some potential, and there are plenty of match-ups where exiling cards is preferred to sending them into the graveyard.
Has anyone tried to used the Voidwalker in this way? Is it a fool's errand to even try in a competitive deck? Are there any good examples of a more controller-y Dimir mill deck that anyone would like to offer? I'd really like to try to make this competitive and most of my past experience with milling is mono-red land destruction that denies land draws via Grindclock or Codex Shredder + Lantern of Insight.
I did play an earlier version of this deck once in a local tournament and have one of my favorite 'Magic moments' ever - watching my opponent sac a fetch land on the opening play and in response popping an Archive Trap and then a Surgical Extraction, absolutely wrecking his combo deck and watching him scoop before I had even gotten a chance to play my turn. Ever since then I've wanted to make a serious go at this.
Thanks in advance.
2 months ago
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7 months ago
If you don't mind infinite combos, Pili-Pala is a classic companion of Grand Architect that nets as much mana as you need. Toss back in the Filigree Sages or something to that effect and you can activate all of your artifacts repeatedly until the job is done. Codex Shredder , Unwinding Clock , and Vantress Gargoyle are some other cards that might fit this strategy. There's also the idea to focus on playing many small artifacts for Altar of the Brood and Grinding Station .
11 months ago
abiblestudent: Thanks for the suggestions and upvote! =D
Mirror-Mad Phantasm is awesome and I'm sad I was unaware of this card until now! Definite add. I had been considering replacing Traumatize with Fleet Swallower a while back, and in conjunction with Fraying Sanity either one is a healthy dose of cheese without too much jank. ;)
I used to run Golgari Thug and Golgari Grave-Troll in the first iteration of the deck and did like the way they worked, but in the end I think they were cut for Codex Shredder & Altar of Dementia. I do still run Dakmor Salvage as it can infinitely Dredge with The Gitrog Monster, and I've been trying to acquire Life from the Loam for some time now, but not an easy card to find it seems.
Thanks again, great suggestions!
11 months ago
So it has been a few months, what changed? Well, I removed a bunch of my creatures, such as Pili-Pala, Grand Architect, and Memnarch because I felt as though the creatures themselves didn't do much other than be good searchers, as the stax pieces lock down the board. I also removed a lot of the nonessential utility lands and added Back to Basics, something I felt was necessary to stop multicolored decks. I also added in a whole bunch more instants to counter everything that I could think of, and added in an infinite draw combo with Future Sight, Sensei's Divining Top, and either Sai, Master Thopterist and Urza, Lord High Artificer or Etherium Sculptor. I wanted to trim out the unnecessary infinite combos and make it easier to dig or wheel or search for the few that I have. Also, Codex Shredder was added, as it is the final win condition within the deck if your table asks you to prove it out once you have infinite mana. You generate infinite mana, then draw out your deck, then mill out your opponent with codex shredder.