Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't play spells or activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Counter target activated or triggered ability. If a permanent's ability is countered this way, activated abilities of that permanent can't be played this turn. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
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1 month ago
In your example, when Gaea's Blessing is milled and its last ability triggers, the trigger goes onto the stack and people can make responses before it starts resolving. That's when you can target the ability with Stifle/Trickbind.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Grief was actually why I’m testing out Trickbind . I know it probably won’t work out. Lol I’m pretty much grasping at straws right now trying to hold the deck together in its current shell. And with MH2 looming the maybeboard just keeps growing...only a matter of time before this one probably just goes on the shelf.
1 month ago
What is Trickbind ever doing that is actually relevant, especially for the cost of a whole card and two mana? I know it can hit fetchlands but two mana for maybe stone raining your opponent doesn't seem worth it, especially when it isn't proactive and could be more hand disruption like Grief and Inquisition of Kozilek . Speaking of Grief, that card seems like something you should consider as a disruptive element early especially since with only a u/b deck you have a lot to enable it. It also makes Scourge of the Skyclaves a lot better if your want to run that since it is an early way to apply pressure.
Having only 17 lands is also extremely greedy, assuming a 56 card deck with Street Wraith you only have about a 75% chance of hitting your first two lands drops, which your absolutely need to do to play delve threats and counterspells on curve. Neither of your cantrips has good unconditional selection like Serum Visions or Opt do which means hitting lands is even less consistent. If you really don't want to get flooded you could play some off colour horizon lands like Nurturing Peatland .
I'm also not sure what you're bringing Diabolic Edict against. Most of the creature decks like U/R Prowess, Company and Ephemerate don't really care too much since they're so threat dense and shadow isn't really seeing play anymore since the meta is so hostile to it.
2 months ago
"Replaced Merciless Eviction with Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant Reason: The instant speed removal potential of Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant and the several sacrifice outlets in the deck, plus being free with Rooftop Storm , makes this a better include. While the deck can recover from having it's perminants exiled, it isn't something I'm overly keen on rebuilding through.
Replaced Animate Dead with Necromancy Reason: Necromancy lets me return and sacrifice Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant during my oppponents' turns, which is awesome. It also gives Nev more flexibility at creating tapped 2/2 zombies following any of their own board wipes.
Replaced Liliana's Standard Bearer with Rhystic Study Reason: Liliana's Standard Bearer is just too situational. I've kept it in my sideboard to help depower the deck depending on the playgroup. I really like it and it does work well with Haakon.
Replaced Mystical Tutor with Leyline of Anticipation Reason: There are too few instant and sorceries for me to be able to justify this. I've found that having the ability to generate infinite mana with Gravecrawler and Phyrexian Altar is much better. Or instant speed wraths with Damnation .
Replaced Scheming Symmetry with Intuition Reason: I wanted to reduce the number of tutor effects in the deck, though I've had a spare Intuition for some time and really wanted to find a home for it. It seems to work really well, especially with Sevinne's Reclamation
Replaced Silence with Trickbind Reason: Silence was there to help me secure the win if I need to go through the Dream Halls but the majority of the time, if I've managed to get down Notion Thief first and wheel, then it does the same effect. Trickbind does also give me protection against planeswalker abilities and most graveyard exile effects.
Replaced Dramatic Reversal with Mind Over Matter Reason: I had looked to play online, with one discord channel advising that I would need to remove the Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter combo, as it would be too strong. They also told me to remove Mana Crypt , though this is partly a deck designed to use some of my more expensive cards and make Varina as optimized as possible while still keeping the zombie theme. Adding in Mind Over Matter was a lucky find. In order for the infinite loop, I need to discard my deck to my graveyard. I enjoy the 4 blue mana cost, as it's harder to reach that devotion. Thankfully, with the treasure tokens from Smothering Tithe and Replenish to cheat it back into play.
Replaced Isochron Scepter with Emergency Powers Reason: Removing the Scepter makes sense as it's not required for the infinite loop anymore. But I've found that adding a 3rd Timetwister effect means a higher chance of drawing into one following a previous instance, like Echo of Eons + Time Spiral . These work really nicely with Narset's Reversal and God-Eternal Kefnet , as both bypass the exile clause on a lot of these cards - in addition to Teferi's Protection . Being instant speed also gives me a layer of protection against graveyard exile effects."
2 months ago
So I've been working on integrating most of the cards from your version of this deck with my version, and there are a few I was using or considering that you might not have thought of.
First, some of my favorite spells for Commander are what I call 'erasure' spot removal auras. These are mostly found in W/B/G, with most in Blue. The blue ones that I use are: Frogify , Kasmina's Transmutation , Ichthyomorphosis , Deep Freeze and Imprisoned in the Moon . As you can see, these don't just kick a commander off the field, they completely neuter it. With the exception of Imprisoned, they're also dirt cheap. The only catch is they don't cantrip. Notably, Deep Freeze and Imprisoned in the Moon both remove a commander's ability to attack, where the other three do not - a Frogified commander is still a commander and can still kill you if it does enough damage. Fun fact: the whole 'imprison the evil goddess in the moon' plotline is the premise for the first two episodes of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. MTG totally ripped off MLP.
Squelch , Stifle and Trickbind are all counter-ability instead of counter-spell. Stifle and Trickbind might be out of budget range for this deck, though Trickbind is worth noting because it has Split Second.
Clear the Mind is a nice failsafe in case our win conditions wind up in our GY and it cantrips!
Mystical Dispute only costs as long as it targets a blue spell, i.e. a hostile counterspell or Cyclonic Rift. Daze is a nice ambush counterspell because you can cast it with no open mana. Was wondering why you didn't include that one.
Unsubstantiate can effectively counter un-counterable spells by bouncing them to the caster's hand. Narset's Reversal is a fancier version of this which lets us theoretically defend our combo spells. If an opponent tries to counter our Mass Polymorph or Synthetic Destiny, we can copy it, forcing them to counterspell it an additional time (the copy) and then another time on the next turn (when we recast it from hand) if they want to stop it. Narset's Reversal I see might be out of budget though.
I was wondering why you weren't running Temple of the False God .
I thought Rise from the Tides would be an interesting card in this deck, though it might be the kind of thing you use only when desperate...
Finally, Mystic Speculation seems like it might be useful, and same for Soothsaying . The latter lets you dig through your library as long as you have mana, and shuffle it at will, though that second part is expensive, mana wise.
I look forward to seeing your thoughts on these. I need to figure out which cards to cut, so don't be shy about ripping into them if they seem bad.
3 months ago
JJ108x, thank you for your interest in Cheapskate Talrand, in the early stages of building and playtesting, I included Telepathy in the deck to evade threats to the Thoracle combo such as Force of Will .
I found that with multiple counterspells in hand, even a well-timed Force Spike was sufficient to protect the combo.
In fact, it is always very nice to know what an opponent has in hand. The issue with Gitaxian Probe is cost—- it dials in at a whopping $1.10!!! Given the cost, to be included, it must be a bomb in the deck. Peek and Clairvoyance are both also good—-but Peek is better. If I included these effects I would choose Probe and Peek, or maybe just Probe.
I would cut cantrips to make room (there are many to choose from, depending on your play style), however I would not cut any cantrips that require/allow me to shuffle a card from my hand back in to my library as THOSE ARE CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT TO THE OPERATION OF THE DECK!!!
Does that make sense?
Do you plan on building this deck?
If so, please tag me in it so I can take a look. I’d be very interested to see what changes you make (especially if you keep the same $75 budget).
I’d also be interested to read about how the deck as is, or with your changes, performs in your meta.
dritchie, thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy the deck, I hope you build it, and keep me up to date as to how it performs!
4 months ago
enpc thank you for the advice, I had received some similar advice from others so after ordering some new cards I've made some changes. I removed a few lands Academy Rector and Copy Artifact to make room for a few more artifacts. In addition I removed Disallow so I can slot in Trickbind instead.