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Creature — Naga Ninja
Ninjutsu (, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
Whenever Mist-Syndicate Naga deals combat damage to a player, create a token that's a copy of Mist-Syndicate Naga.
Mist-Syndicate Naga Discussion
2 weeks ago
I understand that. I'm aware that all of the creatures mentioned above die to removal, but I'm measuring the difficulty that opponent might have dealing with the creatures using said removal, and also measuring the impact that the cards can have on the battlefield relative to the turns they stick in play. Mist-Syndicate Naga feel like a card that if left unchecked, has the potential to run away with the game on its own, like a Goblin Rabblemaster . Brineborn Cutthroat can be checked by the premier removal spells of the format even after getting many +1/+1 counters. Maybe it could be argued for that reason that the Brazen Borrower in not as good for closing out the game as the Ninja, but the added interaction from the Adventure spell, and the Flash & Flying attached to a 3 powered body is very good compensation.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the suggestion but the fact that spot removal spells like Fatal Push and Path to Exile are so prominent in Modern, Brineborn Cutthroat feels a bit inferior than the Mist-Syndicate Naga since it only takes one hit from it to get out of control. A huge Cutthroat can still get wrecked by really cheap spells and will still trade as a 1 for 1 in Modern. Truth be told, I'm looking out for the Brazen Borrower as the perfect card for the slot when it comes out... that card seems bonkers... What do you think about that option? I could even run 2 Borrowers and 1 Ninja and get some sweet occasional Ninjutsu value, since the Adventure part on the Borrower is some really needed interaction for pests that slip through the counters.
2 months ago
First things first: All EDH decks need ramp. Unfortunately for UB decks, most of the ramp in the game is in green or occasionally red (see Orcish Lumberjack ). That means artifacts are the way to go. I advise Dimir Signet , Talisman of Dominance and MindStone (maybe) as relatively affordable cards you can use for ramp; but since you're running Mox Diamond , I might as well mention Grim Monolith and Mox Opal . Your artifact count is a little low for the opal, though, but that may change as the deck evolves.
I see you've included Changeling Outcast . Consider running Mothdust Changeling as another evasive, one-drop ninja. Mist-Syndicate Naga and Silent-Blade Oni are excellent ninjas as well; you should at least consider Throatseeker . Baleful Strix is another creature to consider, as returning it to your hand with ninjutsu allows you to draw more than one card with it after you cast it additional times. It is also hard to block, and can make a formidable blocker on its own.
Cavern of Souls is an excellent include, if you have access to it. It's usually a lot more integral, but you'll likely be using the ninjutsu ability most of the time rather than casting your guys. Still, keep it in mind.
Running Jace, the Mind Sculptor seems good here, though he is over $100 nowadays; I must admit I am having a hard time determining the deck's budget, mostly because of the Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt . Note also that, as you're already including Sensei's Divining Top , Scroll Rack and potentially Jace, the Mind Sculptor , you can consider running Counterbalance . Counterbalance is generally a high-variance card in EDH, but I've had some success with it in the past.
In my Tasigur, the Golden Fang deck, I run a similar combo-kill of casting Nexus of Fate repeatedly with an otherwise empty library. I use Tainted Pact to get rid of my library, running a single basic and snow basic of each type. Crafting your mana base carefully might allow you to run Tainted Pact too -- give thought to lands like Ancient Tomb , Cephalid Coliseum or Cabal Pit . If that doesn't work, Demonic Consultation with Nexus of Fate in hand is also good.
If your meta is filled with combo decks (I know mine is), Arcane Laboratory is a good option, especially since ninjutsu isn't an alternate casting cost; Mana Maze is similar. Dispel is a counter-counter spell I've found tremendously useful, especially since it can stop an opposing ad nauseum right away.
Raven's Crime seems like a good way to use up excess lands you draw.
Not sure how much I like Aether Vial in an EDH deck. Yes, your creature-curve is low and very consistent, but drawing it later in the game, especially if you're behind, has all the feel-bad-ness in the world. Maybe Leyline of Anticipation is better? It allows all your spells to go in at instant speed, flips for an extra three damage off a Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow trigger, and can begin the game occasionally on the table for free. Yes, it is still dead if drawn late, but it isn't AS dead in that it immediately takes full effect; Aether Vial requires two or three turns to become powerful, and then only works with creatures.
Time Stretch is an extra-turn card to consider, though it may be too expensive to cast.
Mystic Remora is good in most blue decks, especially if your opening hand is otherwise slow. Players have to either play around it, which slows the game enough for you to catch up, or play into it, which can easily make it an Ancestral Recall . I personally think it is a better card than Rhystic Study , if only because by T3 you probably want to be doing other things with your mana.
Thirst for Knowledge , Painful Truths , Chart a Course , Notion Thief and Night's Whisper are all worth considering as efficient draw-engines. Notion Thief feels especially brutal when cast as a response to an opposing Brainstorm .
Ok man -- that's all I got. Good luck with deck building!
3 months ago
1) I know you say the curve is low... but it’s not that low, you still have a 4-cost ninjitsu. 18 mana is more what burn plays... see how it goes but i think you will be wanting at least 22 lands.
2) i think Fetid Pools is a mistake. It’s too slow and you’ll seldom have the resources to warrant cycling. Use the UB fastland.
4) some of your non-creature spells seem bad... actually everything except for Opt . You can run better killspells in the form of Fatal Push . Blue has many much more effective 1cmc drawspells than Night's Whisper. Dispel is probably more practical than Negate , but it really depends what you’re trying to counter (either way, there’s better options than Negate). Your enchantments would be better served as more 1-mana disruption and killspells so that you can get to swinging with ninjas quicker
3 months ago
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4 months ago
This looks a bit like my first draft. Here are few comments.
I would run more 0-1 drops because you really want to be dropping Infiltrator or Deep Hours on turn 2. You want to get the card advantage going early otherwise you risk falling behind as the game progresses. After all, Ninja have smaller bodies, no natural evasion and are costly if not supported by cheap enablers. You can consider Tormented Soul or maxing out thopter.
I REALLY like your idea of pushing Naga and Tetsuko. I would probably run the full set of Mist-Syndicate Naga and replace Cunning Evasion with a full set of either Distortion Strike or Shadow Rift so you can keep connecting with Naga and making clones. Cover of Darkness would be even better if this is just for casual kitchen table magic.
The Naga/Tetsuko synergy would be my prinary focus in this build and I might be dropping Fallen and Moonblade for Skullsnatcher and an extra Mistblade Shinobi since they are both cheap and ca potentially wreck opposing strategies by exiling cards from the yard and clearing the way your clone army. Both also benefit greatly from Tetsuko.
Overall it is very inspiring!
4 months ago
Excellent ideas, thanks! I might try running 2x Cathartic Reunion and one more Alesha as I have those cards already. It might be a small investment that could really increase the chance of getting Master out earlier.
I actually didn't think about the fact that Mist-Syndicate Naga also works with Tetsuko due to toughness 1, that does make it better.
Changeling Outcast, maybe maybe. I've had some use of both Slither Blade and Ornitopther having toughness 2. Worth trying out.
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