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Creature — Hydra
: Monstrosity X. (If this creature isn't monstrous, put X +1/+1 counters on it and it becomes monstrous.)
When Hydra Broodmaster becomes monstrous, put X X/X green Hydra creature tokens onto the battlefield.
Hydra Broodmaster Discussion
4 days ago
I would highly recommend an Experiment Kraj deck. If you go the route with creatures that have Monsterous, then you can have an insane amount of fun.
For example, if you sink 11 mana into Hydra Broodmaster , you'll get 5x 5/5 green Hydra tokens. Then, Experiment Kraj gets the activated Monsterous ability as well, meaning you can dump mana into that sucker next turn and make even more Hydra tokens! :D
And since Kraj doesn't discriminate because he's a good boi living in 2019, he takes all activated abilities from ALL creatures that have a +1/+1 counter on them - not just the ones you control.
I'm not sure off-hand if there are cards that allow you to put +1/+1 counters on other creatures that your opponents control, but I imagine there must be at least a few out there that do.
2 months ago
Thank you for all the comments: Re: Ramping w/ enchantments, would it not just make the enchantments or the enchanted lands a target for removal? And what would I do to cover the hole in the defence left by having fewer creatures to defend with, since ramping without creatures removes the option to block and therefore i can get needled down a lot easier. I definitely agree with liking the flexibility of the hydra cards and think it is one of the main strengths of the deck. If less mana is required than previously estimated wouldn't that add to the case of using things like Arbor Elf , as this sacrifices some mana ramp reliability as you pointed out for some defence?
I see your point with Asceticism , as the 5CMC rules it out for a decent amount of the game anyway. I'll straight up just switch those round.
I see the point here more with Doubling Season , but solidarity of heroes has in playtests I've found come to the rescue a lot to accelerate a turn and is also very flexible in terms of number of targets so can just overwhelm removal. I do see your point with valuable real estate (i always struggle to keep my decks to 60, see my other half finished attempt at a deck), I'm just not sure Solidarity of Heroes is the card to drop, can definitely see that Doubling Season more serves to make a winning situation a winning harder situation.
I see that Garruks doesn't have perfect synergy with this deck, but have found him a very useful addition on many occassions with his wide array of abilities providing a good way to do several things from only 1 card slot.
I like the look of Gargos, Vicious Watcher and obviously a free 4 tokens on all my hydras, especially Hydra Broodmaster is a very attractive prospect. I'm a little worried that due to the the very high CMC, that it would only provide more winning in a situation of winning already. What creature spell would be worth cutting for it? I think with Rosheen Meanderer should have enough mana base that can be spent on anything green not to need the special effects of the additional 4 but that can only be spent on 'x'.
I'm not sure core set 19 and 20 were out when I first put the deck together, which is why I was interested on whether it needed updating. I like that Hungering Hydra has a nice low CMC, shame it's a bit harder to get it to scale than the likes of Primordial Hydra , but I could definitely get behind adding this. Protean Hydra was in a very early draft of this deck, the problem in my eyes is that it wouldn't really scale, nobody would go for attacking it unless they think they will kill it. It didn't seem like a bad card, so much as less good than some of the others.
I'm not too sure on Hydroid Krasis for the reasons you pointed out, but will have a think on whether can afford to add the splash, should be doable. What about one of the dual lands for enabling this?
I agree the mana base probably is the area with the most room for improvement and I do really like the look of that card for it's flexibility of being mana or pump. I think i'll put some Oran-Rief, the Vastwood in in place of Forest
Would you suggest leaving other Garruk in, and just removing G,CoB for Harmonize? So just the 2?
Again, I like both Fog and Revive, but not sure what I'd cut for them?
Scavenger Grounds I guess could work against decks that like to cheat things in to play. So far I've just been overwhelming them with the time it takes to do and just bring out something big to kill them off with, at the cost of tapping for specifically green mana. Seems much the same for Field of Ruin but for a fairly niche situation. Maybe these woyuld be better suited to the sideboard?
Nissa, Who Shakes the World goes really nice with this deck and allows you to make even more powerful hydras even quicker, but i don't feel like she patches any weaknesses in the deck, so much as just makes the strengths stronger. Would be interested to know other people's thoughts on this though?
Unbound Flourishing I really like and think the synergy with this deck is too good not to have for a 3CMC card - what do you reckon should be cut for it? Solidarity of Heroes ? as it does a very similiar job. I like Voracious Hydra for it's flexibility but it does only provide the 1 point of scaling and for much the same CMC you can have hydras that keep scaling ad infinitum. Gargos, Vicious Watcher we touched on before, and I really like the card, aside from the slight reservation that it might just make a winning game won harder and come in too late, it look really good for this deck - just not too sure what to cut for it?
Thanks for all the comments guys, they are really helpful - I'll make that first set of revisions and add your names to the list of acknowledgements.
Another thing I was wondering: Do I have the right number of creatures? And do i have the right number of lands? and what can I do to improve my land base, as I feel this is probably the area where improvements can be made without having to take anything away from the deck
2 months ago
Yeah I considered Boundless Realms , but I opted to use the lower costing ones as the goal is to be online as soon as turn 4 (that's the earliest so far I was able to cast Gargos).
About Hydra Broodmaster , I prefer to pop off really fast. In my playgroup, I won't usually get to do that. I prefer more consistently useful creatures.
I appreciate the upvote and recommendations! Thank you again! :)
2 months ago
Love it. My first draft of my Omnath deck was very hydra centric.
Have you considered Boundless Realms as a ramp card?
Also, Hydra Broodmaster . Nothing like 20 x 20/20 hydras with all that land and ramp :D
2 months ago
Also I'm not sure that Hydra Broodmaster 's Monstrosity ability is doubled by Unbound Flourishing , so maybe that's a card to cut in favor of Kalonian Hydra? In any case, as a Timmy this deck looks super fun! +1
3 months ago
Actually Unbound Flourishing (you may choose a new target, just choose any other hydra to become monsterous) and Hydra Broodmaster lets you boost any other hydra, this way any hydra can become monstrous, so it is still a good mana sink.
3 months ago
You mentioned that Unbound Flourishing is insane with Hydra Broodmaster , but I don't think Unbound does anything to the monstrous ability as it cannot be doubled due to the restrictions of it being monstrous for the copy, so it doesn't impact it at all?
3 months ago
Thanks drooski! I found that Umbral Mantle is great especially with mana sinks. I won once with infinite mana and monstrousing my Hydra Broodmaster at the end step just before my turn, which was awesome. I was lucky to get a Paradox Engine after rotation before they spiked in price. I haven't had issues setting up but I have had issues recovering from board wipes, which is were I found Creeping Renaissance to be helpful. So helpful in fact, I recently added Praetor's Counsel as well. I have been fortunate so far drawing, with 13 draw (like) effects in the deck. Two new cards that I am really fond of are Vivien, Champion of the Wilds and Vivien's Arkbow . While not being draw pre se they both have been great so far and are very affordable at the moment.
Hydra Broodmaster occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.02%