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Reverberate Discussion

multimedia on Niv mizzet my problem

19 hours ago

Hey, good budget version of Niv.

Ophidian Eye is another combo enchantment to enchant Niv with. Consider cutting Curse of the Bloody Tome for Eye? With the difficult color casting cost of Niv and the less than ideal color fixing in the manabase consider Chromatic Lantern? To stay within the budget consider cutting That Which Was Taken for Lantern?

To help with color fixing in the manabase there's some budget lands to consider adding. Sulfur Falls, Shivan Reef, Wandering Fumarole, Ash Barrens, Grixis Panorama. These lands can help game play a lot more than $9 Caged Sun can. To stay within budget consider cutting Sun for these lands?

Evolve is not a very good mechanic in Commander because you want to consistently cast an Evolve creature early game to evolve as you cast other creatures. Consistently you're not going to have an Evolve creature to cast early and playing one mid/late game is not doing much. Evolve is a mechanic that benefits much with having 4x of same creatures in a deck which is not Commander. Consider cutting some creatures for a few more draw spells? Brainstorm, Opt, Frantic Search, Faithless Looting are budget good draw spells. Consider cutting Cloudfin Raptor, Simic Fluxmage, Petrahydrox, Ral's Staticaster for these draw spells?

Izzet colors at a budget are at a disadvantage for tutors, but there's some good cards that can copy an opponents tutor when cast letting you also tutor. Expansion / Explosion, Reverberate, Dualcaster Mage. These spells could also copy your own spell when you cast it. Consider cutting Wave of Indifference, Sundering Stroke and Reckless Air Strike for these copy spells? Talisman of Creativity and Izzet Signet are good budget two drop mana rocks. They could replace Heraldic Banner and Spinning Wheel.

In Commander you have access to good budget counterspells that don't have a restriction: Counterspell, Wizard's Retort, Arcane Denial. These counterspells could replace Scatter Arc, No Escape, Mystical Dispute.

I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.

KingFedorHolz on Xenagos, God of Beatdown

3 days ago

TypicalTimmy, Playing xenagos quickly is integral to this deck working. A single Counterspell sets us back 2 turns and allows people to set up their Rhystic Study, Fact or Fiction, and other big draw spells, digging for more answers and keeping us from resolving our game plan. You’ll find Cavern of Souls in hypercompetitive The Gitrog Monster decks for this same reason.

Profet93 I think you’re going about solving your meta in a less efficient way. If removal is your issue, I would double down on protecting your 1 big threat, not trying to throw more 5-10 mana threats at 1-2 mana spot removal, this is a battle they are going to win. Try things like Blossoming Defense, Vines of Vastwood, etc. if counterspells are your issues, then Red Elemental Blast, Reverberate, Prowling Serpopard, Domri, Anarch of Bolas are your friends.

With respect to your creature suggestions: yes you can run Kozilek, and other Hydra Friends, but to win consistently, you want T3 Xenagos, and T4 Beater. Past T6, this deck gets a lot worse and if you are stuck with a Kozilek as your only threat in hand for T4-7, you lost your battle. Hydras are the similar, they are CRAZY good when you sink 12+ mana into them, but eh when you have 3 lands and a Sol Ring. We need things that swing the fences for 6 mana every time, like Godo, Malignus, and the Infect creatures. Also Godo+Embercleave takes and extra combat with Godo’s ability. It’s the best beater with Xenagos.

I ran a Tooth and Nail package in my Xenagos for a while but dropped it because of the 9 cmc to play it. If Xenagos was out, I went for Archetype of Endurance and Blightsteel Colossus for a auto kill. Without xenagos it was blightsteel and Urabrask. But that leaves us with 3 cards that are too expensive and one that is good but not great for the deck. Not saying you can’t do it, but I chose against it.

Gattison on Krenkoing out Golbins

4 days ago

I don't know what a "golbin" is, but Krenko is dope af, so +1 (lol =P just messin')

Seriously though, please consider cards like Fork and Reverberate for some combat tricks and also to copy troublesome counterspells/removal.

robcastpwnz on Niv-Mizzet

1 week ago

Nice. I run a Niz-Mizzet deck but don't have Thousand Year Storm. Mine isn't exactly budget but you can look at it for some ideas. I'll tell you the budget cards that I do run though.

I think you could switch Doublecast for Reverberate or run both of them. Putting some extra turn spells would make for some explosive plays especially if you have Thousand year storm out. I run Karn's Temporal Sundering and Part the Waterveil which are both pretty good budget options. There are more options out there but they can get pretty pricy. I like to run Faithless Looting any chance I can get. It's pretty good here because it triggers Niv-Mizzet and has flashback so you can cast it from the graveyard if you need to. I think Echo of Eons is pretty cheap right now, in a few years that price will go up. If you can't get that card, Magus of the Wheel is a pretty good budget option but it's a creature so you can double it with thousand year storm. I like running card filter effects in my Niv-Mizzet deck so I can get as many triggers on him as possible. Compulsive Research , Drawn from Dreams and Fact or Fiction are all pretty good budget options. Leyline of Anticipation is a little pricier but it just got reprinted so if you can pick it up I would recommend it. Long-Term Plans is a tutor in blue that not many people know about and I think would work super good in Niv Mizzet. I don't run it but I probably should. Last notable mention is Psychosis Crawler . Synergizes super well with Niv-Mizzet and spreads damage out in a way similar to Guttersnipe.

Maybe this was a bit much but if you have any other questions feel free to message me. Good luck with your deck!!

Liquidbeaver on Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]

1 week ago

heavyuser: I used to have the built in change log turned on, but once it got to modification 400 something I decided to turn it off because it was too hard to follow. I would say 90%+ of the changes are captured within the comment history, and the more pivotal changes I added to the Update log.

I'm going to be updating the descriptions in the primer with the last few months of changes, and I will be swapping Fork and Reverberate for something a little more aggressive and fun (not sure what yet).

Lanzo493 on Help improving my deck

3 weeks ago

Yes, Dcku, that is true, but you won't be able to kill anyone with infinite copies of Reverberate that copy each other unless you have a Ral, Storm Conduit out. Cards like Guttersnipe only count when a spell is cast, not copied. Only Ral can win with infinite Reverberate .

However, if we're talking about flashbacking Increasing Vengeance it's different. If you get just one copy of that card, it's future copies can copy itself and copy something else (like Comet Storm or Think Twice ). It'll go infinite with whatever you want.

Dcku on Help improving my deck

3 weeks ago

Sorry for all the questions but i have one more. Copies of spells work as notmal instant and sorcery spells with Thousand Years Storm. If so can you have infinite copies of a copying spell like Reverberate

multimedia on Help improving my deck

3 weeks ago

The reason you play Kykar, Pyromancer and Ascendancy is to get more value out of casting instants/sorceries especially Kykar because Spirits can be ramp. The Spirits/Elementals and draw/discard are bonuses for every instant/sorcery you cast. Which is good because the more value you can get out of the cards you cast the better your deck will be and the more fun game play will be.

Sevinne is very lackluster because you can only copy one spell a turn and that spell has to be cast from your graveyard. These restrictions are terribly slow since most flashback costs are a lot of mana and there's not enough good flashback cards to matter. If you want to play a spell heavy theme which is called "Spellslinger" then you're better off playing instants that copy other spells you cast or your opponents cast: Expansion / Explosion , Narset's Reversal , Reverberate , Increasing Vengeance . These are better than relying on Sevinne and having spells in your graveyard as well as having a way to cast them from your graveyard.

Thousand-Year Storm gives you the effect you want with copying instants/sorceries you cast and it copies any one you cast from hand or graveyard not just the first one you cast from your graveyard. Thousand-Year also copies the spell you cast equal to the number of spells you cast before it during the turn. This effect is called "Storm" in Magic and it's one of the most powerful mechanics in Magic. Mind's Desire is an example of a powerful budget card with Storm.

In the Mystic Intellect precon Elsha of the Infinite is a better card and overall better Commander General than Sevinne. You can cast noncreature/nonland cards on the top of your library with Elsha this includes instants/sorceries. Can cast sorceries on the top of your library as instants which with Spellslinger is very good. Elsha has Prowess, she gets bigger until end of turn the more noncreature spells you cast each turn. She can be a threat to do Commander damage by playing the Spellslinger theme.

You could change the precon into a Spellslinger deck with Elsha as General. With Elsha you don't have the restriction of playing cards that have flashblack instead you can play the best instant/sorceries that Jeskai can offer which does include some cards with flashback. Being able to cast instant/sorceries from the top of your library is better and faster than what Sevinne does. Elsha doesn't want a lot of creatures because her ability can't be used with creature cards, but some creatures who give you value when you cast instants/sorceries are good. This is an example of a budget creature base with Elsha:

Elsha works with Planeswalkers because a Planeswalker is not a creature card. Ral, Storm Conduit and Narset, Parter of Veils are budget Planeswalkers who interact well with instants/sorceries. Ral's -2 loyalty ability can copy an instant/sorcery you cast and he combos with Expansion / Explosion and other instant/sorceries that copy. Elsha works with artifacts which is helpful because mana rocks can be used for ramp to play Elsha/Thousand-Year faster and then afterwards when cast they count toward Elsha's Prowess.

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