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1 day ago
No, not really, TheRedGoat. Most of my burn consists of spells like Sizzle or Slagstorm, and while I do like to swing out with Neheb when I can, his damage isn't usually my primary source of post-combat mana gain. My local meta also doesn't tend to use Fog effects, but either way I don't see stopping combat damage as a large hindrance to the deck.
I have considered Past in Flames, and even once had a Shreds of Sanity in an earlier build, but so far I haven't seen too much need for either of them, because I usually manage to draw into a card like Reverberate or Pyromancer's Goggles that let me cast my big x-spells (like Burn from Within or Fireball ) more than once for a lot of damage. My damage doublers help as well. Honestly, the largest problem with the deck so far is card draw. With the right hand, I can kill someone fairly quickly, or at the very least drop my hand on the battlefield, but gaining more options after dumping/gaining mana is the real weakness I'm finding with the deck. Perhaps more wheels...
1 week ago
It looks like you still need to cut some cards. Here are my suggestions: Word of Seizing isn't a great one time effect, better to have your own big creatures. Garruk, Primal Hunter will almost never make big creatures. Reiterate/Reverberate don't do much in a creature deck, try Strionic Resonator for the sweet quad power. Those are probably the only easy cuts. Sweet deck! Have fun refining it and smashing face!
1 week ago
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. I was thinking about using Star of Extinction + Heroic Intervention as a potential combo, as well as putting Boros Charm in there as another way to protect my dinos. In terms of removal, I only have Terminus in there as a complete board wipe, largely because it would bury my dinos rather than send them to the graveyard, at which point Gishath, Sun's Avatar would still be able to retrieve them. After running a couple simulations, I agree, I need some additional card draw; Mind's Eye and Elemental Bond are two that I am absolutely going to work in.
As for Reverberate my main reason for having it in the deck is twofold. First, it gives me a small amount of protection against counter-spells, so I can hold it until I am ready to cast something potentially game-winning to ensure that the spell goes off. Second, if I am not playing against a control deck, I can use it to tutor since I am out of black. Beyond that, it can also serve a utility purpose of being additional ramp or spot removal as a two cost.
Berserkers' Onslaught, Stranglehold, and Elixir of Immortality are all cards that I have been extremely wish-washy over. Ultimately, I think you are right; they are probably cards that would be best served as a sideboard depending on the meta. Chaosphere seems like a great addition over any of those three. I might also include something like a Whispersilk Cloak to make sure my commander gets through to trigger its ability.
Again, I appreciate the input.
2 weeks ago
Looks like a very solid foundation. As for certain cards to remove, I'm seeing some weakness in cards like Elixir of Immortality, Berserkers' Onslaught, Stranglehold and Reverberate for the following reasons: In commander, Elixir of Immortality isn't going to do all that much. 5 life isn't a lot at all, and although shuffling your graveyard into your library is nice, I think you'd be better off with something that buffed your creatures or mana ramped even more. As for Berserkers' Onslaught, although it is a good card, I think you'd be better off with something that helps you against evasion, like Spidersilk Armor or Chaosphere. Stranglehold is entirely about your meta and how your playgroup plays, but if you're not getting that much use out of it then I think it is worth taking it out. I say that because in my playgroup we search our libraries infrequently and for basic lands, and we rarely ever take extra turns. Now for Reverberate, although it is good for control, I don't see it being super helpful. That is, unless it was just a way to cheat a tutor not in your colors (like Demonic Tutor), or something of the like. I rarely ever see people play cards like Reverberate unless they're playing a Narset, Enlightened Master deck, but maybe that's just my playgroup.
A general rule of thumb I go by is a simple template created by the guys at The CommandZone Podcast, where they say to include 10 draw cards, 10 ramp cards, 5 single target removal cards, and 5 board wipes. I notice there isn't a lot of draw, so you might want to consider cards like Rishkar's Expertise, Mind's Eye, or Elemental Bond. For ramp, there's always the signets as well as Kodama's Reach, Darksteel Ingot, Burgeoning, etc. I know you wanted to have a small focus on removal, but it is hard to do that in a deck that loves creatures. I usually find that 5 single target removal cards works well for me (that is, various cards like Swords to Plowshares, Oblivion Ring, etc.). Since this is a creature heavy deck, 5 board wipes is probably a bit much, but 2 or 3 is fine. You could even combo with a Blasphemous Act + Heroic Intervention if you wanted. Just a thought.
I know this is a long comment but I hope it helped. Looks great, good luck!
2 weeks ago
Hey Pygmyrhino990! Glad you like the deck. I can go over each of the cards that are over $5 and explain why I think they're replaceable or not.
Chromatic Lantern is one of the best mana rocks in the game. The ability to get all of our colors online whenever we want is really great, especially since some of our strongest cards like Arcanis the Omnipotent, Dualcaster Mage, and Necropotence are all color intensive. I would likely just replace this with another mana rock if it were to be taken out.
Cyclonic Rift is an incredible one-sided board wipe. I would say that this card is a blue staple and that nothing can compare to it; if you want to run something like Devastation Tide, it could work, but it would be far less effective for a number of reasons.
Drowned Catacomb is just a pretty good land. You can replace this with a basic or enters-tapped dimir dual (such as Jwar Isle Refuge) depending on how fast your version of the deck is if you build it.
Kess, Dissident Mage is a powerhouse. She can recur our cantrips and, on our turn, protect us if we're trying to combo and have a counterspell in the yard. If you don't own her, there really isn't a great replacement that does the same thing. Izzet Chronarch isn't too bad if you want more recursion, but Kess is just too good to give up in my opinion.
Kindred Discovery is a decent draw engine that can really help us get online if we make a lot of copies. A replacement for this could come in the form of a straight up draw spell such as Opportunity or a political enchantment such as Curse of Verbosity. The slot is really up to you though, as the card isn't necessary for the deck to be good an can likely be swapped out for whatever you would like.
Mystical Tutor is another blue staple that I don't think has any great replacements. Just a solid card overall.
Necropotence is the single best draw engine in the game. I almost always find a win very soon after it resolves. The best replacement for this is probably Phyrexian Arena; it's slow but consistent draw.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is a decent land that can probably be replaced with another land of your choice.
Paradox Engine is one of the main cards in this deck and one of the main ways we can accidentally or intentionally land a win. I can't think of anything that would replace this.
Patron Wizard is a really annoying card that does a LOT of work. It's incredibly expensive, though. There isn't really another card that has a similar effect, but you could try to run another counterspell or maybe play around with Ixalan's new Siren Stormtamer.
Reliquary Tower is another EDH staple that is probably fine to replace with any land of your choice.
Rhystic Study is a solid tax effect / draw engine that will be very annoying for your opponents. It's one of the better consistent draws in blue. This can be replaced with an upkeep extra draw effect such as Monastery Siege or another straight up draw spell if that's more up your alley. Merchant of Secrets is slow but not atrocious.
Sensei's Divining Top is just great fixing. I would try to pick one up when you can, as it has done wonders in most of my decks. If you don't want to spend the money, Sage of Epityr might be worth checking out as a one-time Top that filters garbage if we have some of our scry effects up.
Sigil Tracer is recurrable copy effect that can also hit our opponents' spells. It is a bit mana intensive, though. I don't love this card and you could play something like Wild Ricochet or Reverberate instead if you like the copy effect. If not, you can replace this with pretty much anything.
Sulfurous Springs is another good dual land that can be replaced with another land.
Wanderwine Prophets is an insanely annoying one card infinite turn combo if you can land it. It isn't integral to winning the game, however, and if you want another way to get infinite turns you could always replace it with Final Fortune (imprint Final Fortune on Isochron Scepter, at the end of the next turn use Sundial of the Infinite to avoid the lose the game trigger, repeat). If not, it can just be replaced with another high value wizard such as Havengul Lich or Vindictive Lich.
2 weeks ago
I found Reverberate which is basically a fork, but far less $$$. Wish I found it a few months back! Only costs
I believe Spellweaver Volute is the only card of its type, and it is great. Thanks
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2 weeks ago
Flameshadow Conjuring is a card, you could make a whole deck around. but here... no. It's not just a "does nothing" card, it's "does nothing very long time", since you have to pay for it. You play it turn 4, it does nothing. You play a land, and 5 cmc dragon on turn 5. And it does nothing, since you can't afford to play the activation.
Howl of the Horde - why? What is it you can play, which is worth copying, after you paid 3 mana to copy it? A turn... 10? 15? Crater's Claws? You need 7 mana to play the equivalent of 2 lightning bolts like this... Reverberate is better, as it can copy your opponents cards, and costs 1 less. But that still doesn't make it good for this deck.
2 weeks ago
I don't really think so. The conjuring doesnt do anything when it comes down, and unless it was built around probably should be like a commander card. The other one is cool, but you are looking at a Reverberate for 1 more mana that you wont be able to trigger raid on early. They are both really cool, just not for what you are tyring to accomplish