Warstorm Surge

Enchantment

Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, it deals damage equal to its power to target creature, player or planeswalker.

Discussion (46)

Wizardhat91 on Riku Dreadnought

2 weeks ago

+1 for the neat interaction between Riku and the Ravager! Fun deck concept. I'd like to offer a list of cards that seem appropriate, for your consideration.

• Rogue's Passage
• Fiery Emancipation
• Pathbreaker Ibex
• Siege Behemoth
• Overwhelming Stampede
• Mage Slayer
• Warstorm Surge
• Noxious Revival
• Eternal Witness
• Gravitic Punch
• Decisive Denial

golgarigirl on The Pragmatist's Pet

1 month ago

I take immense joy in showing my pet commanders can take on powerhouses. Let's be real, Savra, Queen of the Golgari barely shows up at casual tables, much less cEDH, but every time I can make Muldrotha or Korvold bow, I am happy.

Not saying I don't play some powerhouses. My Alesha is probably more a pet build instead of running any pet cards.

I think a lot of times 'pet cards' are the cards I'm known for, kind of like signatures. Like Warstorm Surge in all my red decks.

My group is casual enough to allow suboptimal card choice...I don't see this kind of thing being a factor in cEDH or any competitive scene unless it can give an edge.

FoxandtheVoid on Norin, Agent of Chaos

1 month ago

Profet93

Thank you so much for your interest in my deck and this thorough suggestion list and comment. So starting off with the draw you suggested, I kinda missed War Room , I am currently making up a list of things I want to change and I'm slightly changing up the pacing and direction and will be adding more draw. So War Room will definitely be one on the list. Tome of Legends is on my list already so thank you for confirmation on a good draw, especially with Norin popping in and out every turn. I don't know why but Endless Atlas doesn't feel too good to me, maybe if it were 1 mana I'd probably throw that in too but as is I'll pass. Humble Defector my current meta isn't super into playing nice politics so I haven't considered this, also the lack of abusable ETB makes me lean against it. I'll probably talk more on my meta at the end of the comment. As for Ignite the Future and Light Up the Stage they have been kinda on a watchlist, the list I'm working on is gonna look to make big plays with a handful of x cost spells so the flashback with Ignite the Future is less spicy in that sense but still a card I'm looking into playtesting a bit.

Moving on to the Ramp suggestions Curse of Opulence seems nice and I will definitely consider it as I change Norin up to keep it feeling a bit more fresh. Dockside Extortionist I haven't picked up yet because I support my LGS as much as possible and they ones I frequent the most haven't had any in stock when I've been there, and the one time they did - money was a factor. As for the crypt and the gauntlet, I have been playing magic for 20 some years now so many of the pricey cards weren't so pricey when I got them and also have had a healthy local trading market. Yes Myriad Landscape is too slow for my liking. You are correct in your assumption that I am not running Ruby Medallion because of the high amount of artifacts I'm running. It will likely be reconsidered. Sword of the Animist seems kinda good on paper, but my meta likes to do lots of spell casting on other peoples turns so I feel bad spending 2 to equip only to have someone cast a spell and make Norin go away. Oh, and as for Gauntlet of Power and Caged Sun both are going in with my next big change so stay tuned lol.

Utility & Misc. Chandra, Torch of Defiance is good, I'll consider it but not sure where to fit it in, also she will never live to see her -7 in my meta. Dualcaster Mage wasn't considered because I'm only running 9 sorcery and 1 instant and most of them not super great to duplicate, my new list may change this so I may come back and reconsider. Sunbird's Invocation seems perfect for the new list I'm cooking up, thank you! I will definitely play test that. Blast Zone just seems meh, I don't like the XX cost, I haven't found too many enchantments I've wanted to remove and when I do I make them artifacts and destroy them or take them. Flametongue Kavu and Inferno Titan just seem too expensive for what they do, the Kavu being limited to creatures is a bummer imo. Terror of the Peaks should go on to replace Warstorm Surge I'll have to look into that. And lastly Zealous Conscripts used to be in the deck along with a Goblin Recruiter and Moggcatcher and every game was basically the same, tutor for kiki and either gamble or wheel into zealous it felt boring and I didn't enjoy playing it. Might make a return one day in the right meta.

As for your synergy suggestion, I would add it but my new list is actually going to omit Mind's Eye.

Now for my meta... well I currently find myself in limbo as just a few weeks ago my group had a bit of a falling out. Basically, one of my friends became the direct boss of others in the group and he had to let one of them go from the company during covid lockdowns and it just created a lot of bad blood. Drama aside, we had some people showing up with cEDH decks when others were playing intentionally suboptimal decks and only one other person would play nice politics with me so it was kind of difficult at times. Ridiculous amounts of removal, both targeted and mass, so I typically felt somewhat okay running a bit light on that. Also with reds artifact hate and the ability to turn things into artifacts I never really felt disadvantaged.

As I said a few times I am making some changes and I'll be adding things like Firecat Blitz and Tempt with Vengeance to dump a mass amount of creatures in at once for those warstorm/pandemonium effects. I am currently focusing primarily on a new Alesha, Who Smiles at Death deck that you may enjoy, I hope to get it up and made public in the next two or three days. And if you enjoyed this Norin deck for it's low cmc curve you may enjoy the Alesha deck because it's even lower!

Thank you again for taking interest and thanks for the upvote. All of these suggestions are appreciated. :) I hope you have a great weekend.

Squirrel_of_War on Ruric Thar Primal Stax

2 months ago

Thank again Profet93! I'll be testing it out tonight and hopefully I kill a blue player or two XD

I added a few cards to the maybeboard that I'd like you to check out. I was thinking it could be fun to drop a Malignus with Terror of the Peaks or Warstorm Surge out!

Ravenrose on A Deal With the Devil EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷

2 months ago

I don't have any comments per se, but my Vorthos buttons have been pushed thanks to your layout. This whole thing is so perfectly Kaalia! I don't know if you were planning on running echantments but Warstorm Surge could be a good one.

MagicMarc on New hubs to be added

2 months ago

@FiveMagicsMaster; A decade or so ago there were competitive decks that got nicknamed "Pebbles". Fruity Pebbles, Cocoa Pebbles, etc.

They used the following combination of cards or similar to beat people's life totals down with infinite "pings" of damage: Shield Sphere + Goblin Bombardment + Enduring Renewal . Any 0 cost creature would work. You sac the creature to trigger the damage, the renewal got it back to your hand, play the creature for free since 0 cost then keep doing it until they died. The difference in the deck names usually meant what cards were used to assemble the combo. Like Cocoa Pebbles used Necropotence to get to the combo pieces.

So naming combo decks, especially decks taking advantage of 0 cost creatures or 0 cost artifacts to win games started getting named after cereals. "Cheerios" decks use 0 cost artifacts to keep burning through their library and burning their opponent.

At EDHREC you can find Impact Tremors & Goblin Bombardment under the Cheerios theme.

Pandemonium & Warstorm Surge are different from those being a non-sacrifice type of Fling . Like Femme_Fatale said, those don't have a theme. Just burn. A card like Burning Anger that taps to do damage might be considered a "Pinger" theme card like Prodigal Sorcerer but because its not 1 point at a time it may not be.

An0nym0us on Vaevictis Asmadi, The Dire Budget

3 months ago

Especially combined with Warstorm Surge

TheVectornaut on Death Touch Green Boi

3 months ago

It is true that the deathtouch package will be worse in multiplayer games since you have more threats to deal with. I think siding into a bigger ramp package would be a good idea. I would caution though that it's important to add in more mana dorks or ramp spells to keep pace with any new bombs you include or you'll find yourself mana screwed a lot of the time.

I went ahead and added my creature-based commander deck so I could link it for reference. It was built from a casual 60-card skeleton that's quite similar to your deck, so some of the ramp cards I've had success with over the years might do well here too.
deck: Predator's Toolkit

Prowling Serpopard or Destiny Spinner could be useful tech if counters are flying around left and right. Vigor is definitely strong against board stalls, and I like Archetype of Endurance against a lot of common removal. Somberwald Sage and Elvish Piper would probably be my first picks for dropping haymakers early without much other support. Yeva, Nature's Herald and Seedborn Muse are particularly disgusting in multiplayer since you essentially play on every turn. Some final bombs I love are Whiptongue Hydra for flyers, Polukranos, World Eater for other creatures, and Sylvan Primordial for most anything else.

For your existing ideas, I think Worldspine Wurm is good if your games go long enough to cast it while Tempt with Discovery is good if you don't have opponents who greatly benefit from the mana. I'm still iffy on Lumberknot in a deck not based around token sacrifice, and I'd probably just run Dungrove Elder if you need a midrange hexproof creature. Hydra's Growth is very good with additional +1/+1 synergy, Kazandu Tuskcaller needs more token synergy, and Strixhaven Stadium feels optimistic in multiplayer. For the bigger cards, I think Vigor , Soul of New Phyrexia , Toski, Bearer of Secrets , Verdant Sun's Avatar , and Vivien Reid are all playable. Myojin of Life's Web needs some way to refill the hand or its ability will never do anything that impactful. Impervious Greatwurm is the weakest option since it gets completely stuffed by chump blockers. I used Connive / Concoct to reanimate it in standard and still found it to be too slow. If you had a Warstorm Surge or something, maybe it'd be a different story...