Elder Deep-Fiend

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Elder Deep-Fiend

Creature — Eldrazi Octopus

Flash

Emerge (You may cast this spell by sacrificing a creature and paying the emerge cost reduced by that creature's converted mana cost.)

When you cast this spell, tap up to four permanents.

UltimateRoxas40 on Krothuss - From Below and Beyond

8 months ago

Looks like a fun deck! I always appreciate any deck that makes you start chanting to the Great Old Ones haha! I've been meaning to make a Runo Stromkirk  Flip deck at some point, so I'll keep this deck in mind when I get around to it.

You've got a good suite of self-Mill/top-deck manipulation and Reanimate cards, but I think you're running too many mana rocks, especially the two Diamonds. You could probably get away with replacing those two. You could probably replace at least one of those with something like Tidal Terror, which gets you an Island and a CMC 6 relevant creature into the graveyard.

Depending on budget availability, something like Entomb or Unmarked Grave would also be really handy to get a specific creature into the graveyard to reanimate or trigger Runo.

Extract from Darkness is another card I'd suggest, both for function and flavor! It self-mills and you can get something BIG back from any graveyard onto your field.

A final suggestion would be Elder Deep-Fiend. It's both an Eldrazi and an Octopus, so it plays into both your big creature groups, you can sacrifice another creature to make it cheaper (and thus have a target in your graveyard to reanimate later), and has Flash, so you can tap down four permanents whenever you cast it.

These suggestions come from some of the cards that I've put aside in my deck-building binders for whenever I build my version, but overall, you've got a good deck with a solid strategy!

Dani3377 on I got to Tomorrow

8 months ago

You have so much token creation that I just worry that whether or not to cascade in the late game might become a hard decision because tokens can't be shuffled back into your library but are permanents, meaning they just die.

Goblin dark dwellers only works on instants and sorceries, you can't use it to play seasoned pyromancer from the grave. Pyromancer is a creature.

What if you did Collected Company with things like Sylvan Caryatid and cascade creatures.

Some sort of singular pay-off creature like maybe Elder Deep-Fiend, where you could play cards like Sylvan Caryatid and the 2-mana cascade creature instead of Shardless Agent. Anything that ramps you on turn 2 into turn 3 company means your chances of hitting a cascade on turn 3 are enhanced from normal because you're only running 4 copies of cascade creature.

Whatever pay-off creature you choose, the alternate path to victory could be just ramping normally into casting it.... There are better cards than deep fiend but I was just thinking off the top of my head. The deck would work in different ways depending on the draw. With more 2-3 drops you could likely play more creatures before you cascade, leading to a bigger resulting boardstate. Ramp and card draw creatures. Nissa, Vastwood Seer  Flip and Reckoner Bankbuster and Tireless Tracker come to mind. Im sure there are others, I've been out of modern for a while.

Corrus555 on Green/blue sea monsters copy

1 year ago

Alright let's get dorky. So you want more consistent game and early game. I like your mana ramp and some big boys, I just feel you don't have the early game, you wait for your own board state to get big but only have counter spells to remove threats.

My first list of cards I think can be removed for either lower cost cards or the effects arnt good enough. Urban Evolution to much mana for 3 card draw, the extra land drop isnt enough to justify the mana cost. Seer's Sundial is decent but the recuring cost will slow you down. But with a card like Horn of Greed ,everyone getst the card draw but you should be hitting a land drop every turn realistically. Horn of Greed isnt good with cards that put them onto the battlefield, but playing additional lands will trigger it multiple times for you, free effect for doing what your commander does. it will pay for itself in two turns. Acidic Slime its just slow,I like this better than itWickerbough Elder. Reclamation Sage is better and often the land doesnt matter unless its super competative. or Beast Within will help you with the land removal. meh Stumpsquall Hydra do you really need your CMDR bigger?? slow Sporemound Elder Deep-Fiend meh? like any combos or anything with this? Sharktocrab its cool, but you can only do the effect once, and you dont care about counters, but i see its good for the octopus creature type. Stormtide Leviathan often shoots people in their own foot if you dont have the bottom requirement on your creatures.

lands I dislike,Vivid Creek Vivid Grove tapped and only good for two turns? lands I like are Evolving Wilds Simic Growth Chamber Thornwood Falls Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer better version below. Below link are slow fetches if money is a concern, but you can run them outside your color because they dont have the mana symbol, to bad you can't run other bounce lands. https://www.mtglands.com/main-slowfetches.html https://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/bounce-lands-outside-commanders-color-identity/

Decent cards to replace with Hydra Broodmaster. Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar If you go graveyard recursion consistently she isn't bad Titania, Protector of Argoth if youre using fetches and such. If you do graveyardWorld Shaper The Mending of Dominaria Springbloom Druid early blocker,Harrow Crop Rotation crop R triggers your commander and only costs one. for any land. Zendikar's Roil this doesnt get removed by board clears and makes bigger than 1/1 spores.

Skyshroud Claim any forests. if you do dual shock lands. Fabled Passage if you have the $$$. Myriad Landscape if no $$$. Slippery Karst its good with graveyard synergy but often its cycled unless you need it the first few turns to get to land searches like Cultivate

The best card you should get Azusa, Lost but Seeking Roil Elemental Rapid Hybridization one cost removal of commander worth it. Tatyova, Benthic Druid you need cards that do similar effects as your commander so they cant just shut your deck down with one removal of your CMDR.

Tutor for your big guysFierce Empath This will pay for itslef in one turn Lotus Cobra Good long game card in my opinion that can be used for sac outlet and mana sink to pay into Tireless Tracker

Lands I like Terrain Generator Temple of the False God Hinterland Harbor cheaper than dual shocks, Thats Breeding Pool this is a dual shock land.

Late game cards that are VeRy NiCe but extra Praetor's Counsel Tooth and Nail

To battlefieldWood Elves Farhaven Elf and to hand Sylvan Ranger Ulvenwald Hydra these early game guys get you lands and can chump block, which means you block them with anything big they throw at you, assuming it doesn't have trample

Plenty of more expensive fixes but this is a good start, Let me know if you got some $$$ so I can recommend that. Most these cards should be under 10$ ish.

Gidgetimer on My pre made deck needs …

1 year ago

Without info on a budget it is a bit hard to suggest upgrades. However; as said before you need to lower your mana curve and focus the deck on either landfall or beaters. I would also cut 6 of the lands to go down to 38 and add in much more ramp. Cutting:

6 lands

Terastodon

Elder Deep-Fiend

Verdant Sun's Avatar

Meteor Golem

Sphinx of Uthuun

Scourge of Fleets

Tromokratis

would give you 13 free spots. If you filled those spots with 1 and 2 CMC ramp and cheap removal your games would go much smoother. Personally I'd go with 8 ramp and 5 removal, and here is where what your budget is will matter for choices.

Ramp

Birds of Paradise

Elvish Visionary

Exploration

Fyndhorn Elves

Llanowar Elves

Burgeoning

Wild Growth

Arcane Signet

Devoted Druid

Lotus Cobra

Talisman of Curiosity

Removal

Beast Within

Pongify

Cyclonic Rift

Rapid Hybridization

Negate

Disperse

Brazen Borrower

Boomerang

Divide by Zero

Gomazoa

lagotripha on Fae from around the house

2 years ago

Noone knows how to build faeries right now, so go wild.

The winning tournament lists certainly are - I saw one with 4 Mistbind Clique and Elder Deep-Fiend trying to get a lock for the win, its in that kind of 'anything goes' right now.

Who knows, maybe a green splash is exactly what it needs to climb out of tier 3 - Scryb Ranger just needs the right counterpart for the untap/land effect to go from niche to major threat. I'm not sure thats been printed yet, but its worth keeping an eye on.

keizerbuns on Eldrazi Pyre

2 years ago

Thanks for the comment, fatalzintomyum, I'm glad you like the deck! I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say I should just play 4 Matter Reshaper since I am already running a full set. If you mean I should be playing Matter Reshaper as my lowest CMC creature, I already tried that in my first version of this deck and the deck didn't really run very smoothly, it was a little too slow to get started.

That being said, maybe I don't have to start at 1 CMC and go up from there, maybe I could go with what I think you're suggesting and start with 2 drops instead. Both Nest Invader and Eldrazi Skyspawner both look like excellent suggestions for ramp, but I think I might need the card draw effect like what Salvage Drone had more than ramp so I can find my Pyre of Heroes more reliably. Do you have any suggestions for 2 or 3 drops that can help me draw?

I think Endbringer and Drowner of Hope are both great suggestions for my 6 drops, maybe I'll try that out and see how I like it. Currently I'm just using the 6 CMC creatures as a toolbox so I can grab which ever one I think best fits the current situation and those look like they have a lot of utility!

I did also think about adding Wretched Gryff but I decided not to add it just because I thought Bane of Bala Ged was my best strongest 7 drop and I added in the Dread Defiler to make use of the creatures I was sacrificing and putting in my graveyard. I actually don't want to pod into my Elder Deep-Fiend cause it's ability only triggers if you cast it, and podding it just puts it onto the battlefield from the library.

Thanks again for the suggestions! I'll try them out and see if I can't improve this deck further!

fatalzintomyum on Eldrazi Pyre

2 years ago

I have a couple suggestions. First of all, I think that you should probably just play 4 Matter Reshaper. It is probably just your best card to pod, also just a decent low curve threat. I do not know if budget considerations are a thing here, but I believe that you might have a couple too many 6 drops. I think maybe 1 copies of Endbringer and Drowner of Hope each might be the best options, but I am not sure. I like Elder Deep-Fiend just for having synergy with your other cards, but I think you just want 1 seven drop to pod into it, maybe a Wretched Gryff? As for the 2&3 drops, maybe Nest Invader and Eldrazi Skyspawner would be good options

keizerbuns on Eldrazi Pyre

2 years ago

Thanks wallisface! Adding the 0 fixed it, I don't know why I didn't think of that haha

I always appreciate advice, so this is very much appreciated!

You're totally right about everything you said there. I've tried playing this deck in it's current state a few times and it just does not play consistently. At some point I'm going to try and remake this deck, this time starting with 1 CMC creatures like Salvage Drone or Blisterpod and going up to 7 or 8 CMC for Bane of Bala Ged and maybe Elder Deep-Fiend. I'll also ditch the late game cards for some earlier game interaction and try to make it not so dependent on Pyre of Heroes.

Thanks again for the advice, I'll use it to try and make this an actually viable deck!

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