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Undead Alchemist
Creature — Zombie
If a Zombie you control would deal combat damage to a player, instead that player mills that many cards. (They put that many cards from the top of their library into their graveyard.)
Whenever an opponent's creature card is milled, exile that card and create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Polaris on undead alchemist vs Nine Lives
1 week ago
This is detailed in rule 616.1 (interaction of replacement and/or prevention effects). Since both of these affect the same player, the affected player chooses which order to apply them in. This usually but not always means, in practice, that the defending player will choose to prevent the damage with Nine Lives, though it's notable here that they can choose to prevent the damage with Undead Alchemist if they wish to not get more incarnation counters.
So in general, Nine Lives wins.
wozislightning on
Heavy Grinder
6 months ago
I have run Phenax basically since he came out. I like your brew! Here are a few things that work well for me.
Card draw is important: Fallowsage , Into the Story , and Visions of Beyond have put in a ton of work for me.
Combo potential: Intruder Alarm , Zellix, Sanity Flayer
, and Undead Alchemist all seem to work well with what you already have.
Other: Gyruda, Doom of Depths has been an absolute powerhouse for me. Sheoldred
Flip has a decent body and is easy to flip. Silent Arbiter is also good against a lot of go wide decks. Trinket Mage may be small, but it can tutor up sol ring, Alter of the Brood, and Soul Guide Lantern depending on what you need - very versatile. Wight of Precinct Six can get enormous for only 2 mana.
Good luck and happy brewing!
DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep Fungal Shambler …
10 months ago
FormOverFunction, this deck does not have a great emphasis on +1/+1 counters, so Gyre Sage would not be a good match for it, and, even if that were the case, I believe that Kami of Whispered Hopes is superior to Gyre Sage in the majority of situations. Similarly, this deck does not have many, if any, zombies, so Undead Alchemist is also not a good match, for this deck.
As for Phenax, God of Deception, he is a great recommendation, so I think that I would like to wait to receive several more responses, before I make a decision, on this matter.
FormOverFunction on Should I Keep Fungal Shambler …
10 months ago
I was thinking about Gyre Sage, in an attempt to leverage the counters that get put on mimeo. I don’t know if that’s worth it, but I’m going to think more about those counters, because there might be something weird in black or whatever that benefits from getting counters. The other thing I was thinking about was Phenax, God of Deception, which could change the operation/play of the deck pretty significantly. You have a lot of pips in your creatures, so you’d probably have him active reliably. Phenax made me think about Undead Alchemist, which makes more mill, but that guy exiles which is the exact opposite of what you’re looking for... I’ll let you know what I think of regarding how to benefit from the +1/+1 counters (other than the normal crashing around).
MistaMint on
Eldritch Captain of the Deep [Lovecraftian Primer]
1 year ago
Ah yes yes, the wording is quite tricky sometimes. I will have to take a hard look at my deck, I noticed you already have, and see if anything else is interacting in incorrect ways. I'm a big fan of having Undead Alchemist in my deck even though it's technically counter intuitive to the rest of the deck
Rivel on
2 years ago
For those interested, here is the list of removed cards, added cards, as well as total current deck stats.
Removed
- 6 Island
- 6 Swamp
- Dreadhorde Invasion
- Liliana, Death's Majesty
- Dispel
- Drown in Dreams
- Negate
- Plumb the Forbidden
- Reality Shift
- Resculpt
- Unwind
- Exsanguinate
- Final Parting
- Ghouls' Night Out
- Charcoal Diamond
- Sky Diamond
- Gleaming Overseer
- Hordewing Skaab
- Undead Alchemist
Added:
- Evolving Wilds
- Exotic Orchard
- Malakir Mire Flip
- Mystic Sanctuary
- Obscura Storefront
- Reflecting Pool
- Secluded Courtyard
- Terramorphic Expanse
- Unclaimed Territory
- Verdant Catacombs
- Vesuva
- Mystic Remora
- An Offer You Can't Refuse
- Blue Sun's Zenith
- Pongify
- Rapid Hybridization
- Read the Bones
- Bident of Thassa
- Dimir Signet
- Fellwar Stone
- Herald's Horn
- Pyre of Heroes
- Thaumatic Compass Flip
- Urza's Incubator
- Champion of the Perished
- Fell Stinger
- Liliana's Standard Bearer
- Murderous Rider
- Shambling Ghast
Misc deck stats: Ramp: 13 Draw: 19 Tutors: 4
DreadKhan on
Grimgrin - Needs your Help
2 years ago
When I was testing out your deck, I definitely noticed mana issues, you probably want a mix of a couple more lands and some mana rocks. There is the odd mana dork you could use, none generally as good as a Green one. I always like Dreamscape Artist in a Dimir deck that makes use of the graveyard, it's actual Harrow so the lands are entering untapped, making the ramp a bit better than it might usually be. With a 5 mana Commander I think I would run Sol Ring, especially without Green, there is also Talisman of Dominance and Dimir Signet that are solid. A really solid 3 mana rock is Skyclave Relic, it can be a 3 drop or a big (and versatile) efficient 6 drop. Not sure if you need all of those, but I think you want some of those ramp options. TBH, you might also lower your average Mana Value, you're well over 3, which might be a tad high for 33 lands in a reasonably competitive deck. A couple handy utility lands that are nice with Voltron decks include Witch's Clinic, Shizo, Death's Storehouse, and Tyrite Sanctum. Sanctum is a bit weird, but getting Indestructible on your Commander will probably feel pretty good. There are also some MDFCs that aren't bad in Black, you could replace one of your 2 mana Black removal creature removal with Hagra Mauling Flip, risking 4 mana to remove something (with no restriction though) is harsh, but it's also a land which feels incredible in a lower land count deck. I hear Malakir Rebirth Flip is also very good, especially with a Voltron Commander.
I also noticed that the deck seemed to not excel at clearing the board of threats/problems, this can include combo pieces or Voltron creatures. From a competitive standpoint, if you expect to play against decks that are 7s or above you probably want at least a couple more solid counters, it's hard to know which to run because actual Counterspell costs UU, which is hard to hold up obviously, but Swan Song and Negate might not be versatile enough, but I think any or all of those would make the deck more functional. Niche removal like Ravenform, Resculpt and Feed the Swarm are also worth a look, you never know when you'll need to tutor up an answer for either of those types, and being able to hit a creature is also useful, fwiw Black isn't great at exiling creatures. I see you only have 1 Planeswalker in here, have you thought about Liliana, Death's Majesty? She's got some synergy with Zombies for sure, and offers a potential wipe.
A tutor that might fit in here that you're not running is Final Parting, which is clunky at 5 mana but it also offers a two for 1 tutor, so even if it's a lot of mana it does a lot of work. I'm not sure how many cards you're that desperate to get into the graveyard, but Final Parting finds 2 of 3 pieces for Gravecrawler combos in my Meren deck, very handy if I have one in hand already.
Pretty tough finding stuff that sticks out for being suboptimal in this list! Here are a few I suspect could be upgraded: Reassembling Skeleton is a Skeleton. The recursion aspect is not particularly good at 2 mana for a non-Zombie body, with a max of one on board at a time. Undead Alchemist might do something sometimes, but I feel like it's a bad interaction with a lot of your deck, it's terrible with Living Death type stuff obviously, and if someone is close to death, this gives them way more life. Call to the Grave seems potentially iffy, you run some very good non-Zombies, and you can't sac a token instead to it, it eats only non-Zombies. Kindred Discovery seems questionable potentially, it negatively interacts with any combo that uses a zombie entering or dying repeatedly since you have to draw, this can also make you unable to swing with a huge zombie army, which seems agonizing without at least throwing in something like Capsize. More curious than certain, but do you often have 1 toughness things to work with Skullclamp? Any Zombie at 1 toughness is buffed by your lords, and the tokens you make are 2/2s iirc? If you ask me, unless you have a source of 1 toughness bodies I'm missing, you could instead run Mask of Griselbrand, it can draw cards too (sometimes way more), both require a sac outlet, and it offers real utility in combo by offering evasion and lifelink. I would run any of the removal I mentioned over Doom Blade and Go for the Throat, I feel like the versatility and some offering exile has an edge. For Tragic Slip, do you get stuck without a sac outlet very often, this seems like an unnecessary complication to have on your removal, but at least it can hit Indestructibles? IMHO if you can afford it run Deadly Rollick, this will also exile stuff without as harsh a requirement (I'd rather have the downside of 4 mana vs removing only x/1s).
GoldenAgeBatman on Your Cheap Obscure Overperformers?
2 years ago
Undead Alchemist in Varina, Lich Queen has been phenomenal, especially against other creature heavy decks. Archfiend of Ifnir and Zombie Infestation are also a wonderful combo to destroy an opponent's board while building up your own.
