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Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed
Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Horsemanship (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with horsemanship.)
Sacrifice Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed: Return target black card from your graveyard to your hand. Activate this ability only during your turn, before attackers are declared.
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Pedrodamus on Tutorless Commander?
1 week ago
Tutors are an inherit part of the game that have been around from the very beginning. If your playgroup has an ironclad "no tutor" policy, then more power to ya. My playgroup doesn't play by those rules, but I, personally, have been limiting the tutors I include in my decks in lieu of new cards I want to test out. My tutor inclusion depends entirely on how strong I intend the deck I'm building to be.
That being said, I've limited a few of my decks to a single tutor. Like, my Rith, the Awakener runs a lot of enchantments, so I have an Enlightened Tutor in there. I run a Mystical Tutor in Neera, Wild Mage because it's just fun to search up a fun big spell to the top in response to her trigger. In contrast, I run quite a few tutor effects in my mono black Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed and mono green Omnath, Locus of Mana decks because they're meant to combo out. I think this tutor sentiment depends entirely on how a playgroup feels about it.
Metroid_Hybrid on Fool, this isn't even my …
8 months ago
Over the past three years I have been slowly brewing, playing, and tweaking a cEDH-ish Yawgmoth, Thran Physician deck with a pre-Modern twist. I'm quite happy with what it's grown into, but now I'm looking into what would be the last few changes required to reach it's maximally calibrated "final form". I use the term "final form" because there is ultimately only a finite number of pre-8ED & cards to sort through.
First off, I plan on buying a Strip Mine— because reasons.. I also plan on effectively doubling the dollar value of the deck with an Imperial Seal— to flush out the last of the unconditional Tutors..
The other three that I am strongly considering are Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed, Wasteland, and a Corpse Harvester. Would these add or take away from the competitive value of this deck?
Is there anything else that I am missing?
There are a couple of other thoughts that I have, but I wanted to start off the conversation with this...
Decklist for reference:
Yawgmoth - mk_I (Vintage Phyrexia)
Commander / EDH
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DawnsRayofLight on Chainer, Dementia Master
8 months ago
As someone who has played Chainer for close to a decade, I have some suggestions I would like to offer. (though everyone's decks run differently!)
34-35 lands is usually enough. I would recommend 34 with Agadeem's Awakening Flip that gives you 5 spots:
In those spots:
(Or all the expensive artifacts like Grim Monolith or what have you)
In place of:
1x Cast Down--> Lethal Scheme: This card is amazing in any reanimator list
1x Culling the Weak--> Phyrexian Altar: you need more sac outlets with some staying power
1x Dismember--> Soul Transfer: seems janky, but versatile
1x Doom Blade--> Baleful Mastery: you can hit more with it.
1x Go for the Throat--> Infernal Grasp
1x Power Word Kill--> Deadly Rollick/Altar of Dementia: for a better killspell or for a sac outlet
1x Sacrifice--> Ashnod's Altar: need more sac outlets with staying power
1x Terror--> Meteor Golem: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove
1x Victim of Night--> Karn Liberated: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove
Cruel Tutor--> Mikaeus, the Unhallowed: bonkers for some staying power, also has combo potential
Unmarked Grave--> Putrid Goblin: this or Walking Ballista are good for combos with Mikaeus. Putrid GOblin + Ashnod's Altar/Phyrexian Altar + Mikaeus = infinite mana (or sub ashnod's altar for mill).
Suggested Drops, see next list for suggested replacements
Blood Pet--> sort of an eh card, I might think of something with more oomph
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip--> I do like her, she just never did anything when I ran her.
Ruthless Technomancer: I have debated a lot adding him, in something like Korvold, he is an all-star, in chainer, he can be good, but I would almost always rather have Disciple of Bolas
Skirge Familiar: I get the reason it is in here, but there are better cards.
Black Market: It's nice, but can be too slow.
Liliana of the Dark Realms: I just have never been a big fan, she feels too lackluster.
Final Parting: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough
Sidisi, Undead Vizier: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough
Rune-Scarred Demon: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough, there also some stronger creatures to fit in the spot.
Archon of Cruelty: expensive mana wise but an all star.
Kokusho, the Evening Star: has been in my deck from the beginning and has flat out won me games.
Brainstealer Dragon: seems janky, but I added to just try it and it has been amazing.
Black Market Connections: You need more draw (also helps with ramp)
Phyrexian Arena: You need more draw
Bolas's Citadel: an amazing card. Wins games all the time.
Disciple of Bolas: card draw and life gain
Fell Stinger: card draw
Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed: Great for recursion
Reanimate, Liliana, Death's Majesty, Living Death. and Animate Dead: it is good to have other means of reanimation if Chainer keeps getting removed (I also suggest sac outlets to help keep your creatures from getting exiled when they spot remove Chainer)
Hope this helps! Here is my list to maybe show you how I run the list: The True Meaning of Death and Taxes
Lhurgyof on Hurling Body Parts
11 months ago
Hatred can be another nice win con for Commander damage.
Profane Command is really flexible, and with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed you can drain life an opponent every turn (use him to recur the command, use the command to reanimate him and drain life).
Unmarked Grave, while not at strong as Entomb, can still fetch up Filth or other reanimation
Profet93 on Changing Commanders
1 year ago
I used to have an Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed deck but changed the commander to Sidisi, Undead Vizier . For one more mana, I get a better body that automatically tutors rather than paying an extra 2 (at best) for Demonic tutor. Xiahou dun was swapped into the 99 and eventually taken out due to the slightly new direction. Overall I'm very happy with it. People always groan and think it's cEDH Sidisi but fail to realize that a tutor in the command zome can prompt different strategies should you be creative enough :)
MLS91 on Crippling Fear
1 year ago
@Profet93 Im actually considering cutting Urza's Saga unless I can find space and reason for the inclusion of Library of Leng . Otherwise im thinking that High Market will take it's place.
I'm pretty certain that Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed is also going to make it into the deck to drive the Grave Pact effects and also provide recursion for discard spells etc. if that happens i'm considering finding a space for Sheoldred, Whispering One for a small loop like effect. the cut i'm considering would be Massacre Wurm
p.s. I will consider the Liliana's Triumph as I am running 3 lili's but im currently in love with the 2cmc split second edict
DawnsRayofLight on Tergrid Discard
2 years ago
MalGaming: no problem, I hope they help. I do want to point out that Mastermind's Acquisition is more than a 4cmc tutor. It let's you pull cards from your sideboard. I combo that with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed (and my general chainer) to grab any card I need out of my sideboard to use for whatever situation. It has saved my bum on several occasions, I also don't like running combos unless each combo piece is useful on its own (my original chainer list ran Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth + Exsanguinate but I felt Basalt was often a dead draw and eventually dropped it, I traded rings in for Lithoform Engine after that sense I wasn't as concerned with combos and making an extra Lich or copying a tutor seemed helpful). So I also use acquisition to grab Walking Ballista or Sorin Markov for some cheese that I would normally not run in the main if the situation called for it. There are tons of cards I would love to fit in my commander list and acquisition allows me to sort of run those cards. I also use it in my Atraxa list to grab cards like Ashiok, Dream Render and other more situationally useful cards.
DawnsRayofLight on Marquis De Chainer, Sadism 101
2 years ago
Mastermind's Acquisition Is a great card to combo with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed. You can make a 15 card board and put some cards in to help against certain decks that gives chainer some issues (blue white control--Nevi's Disc, Hero's Downfall and the like, Sword of Sinew and Steel, etc.) it allows you to run 15 extra cards without having them eat up space in your deck.
Attrition and Overseer of the Damned is a fun combo. I have gotten tons of use out of attrition.
The Rings + Basalt combo is nice, but I ended up dropping it out of mine. It is nice if you play Torment of Hailfire and Exsanguinate but I went more control than combo after a while.
Thought-Knot Seer is great for some recurring hand hate
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools has been an all-star in my deck, you could also add Karn Liberated and Ugin, the Ineffable for more pointed permanent destruction
Flesh-Eater Imp is also a fun sac outlet and an alternative win con.
Volrath's Stronghold is good for saving some of your cards from graveyard removal and I have been debating Phyrexian Reclamation and or Tortured Existence. Fortunately I have not seen too many EDH decks with a lot of dedicated grave hate.
Disciple of Bolas is also an all star card, he keeps chainer going like you wouldn't believe