Liliana, Heretical Healer
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies (is put into the graveyard from the battlefield), exile this, then return this to the battlefield transformed under this creature's owner's control. If you do, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
|Have (5)||darkkingdude , JowzieThe11th , orzhov_is_relatively_okay819 , sepheroth119 , gildan_bladeborn|
|Want (4)||Cliper51 , RevengeT , koadmunkee , Nilok3|
Combos Browse all
- Liliana, Heretical Healer + Loyal Retainers + Saffi Eriksdotter
- Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger + Liliana, Heretical Healer
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Liliana, Heretical Healer Discussion
1 month ago
Sounds like you're looking to build a Gisa and Geralf deck. Apart from their solo counterparts Goulcaller Gisa and Stitcher Geralf, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip and Liliana's Devotee not many humans play nice with zombies but with all the love zombies recently got it would probably be a solid deck - though thematically its not what you want.
2 months ago
So to me, that means that:
I'd say the first 4 in that list are definite staples that need to stay. Revival / Revenge seems to do it's job well too. Everything else does its job, but doesn't have haste or has some minor downside, so there's potentially room for improvement.
Personally, my top choices of everything I'm going to throw out there is as follows:
I also see a lot of cards in here to counter control/removal. Have you considered a bigger hexproof/shroud creature, or something that's just uncounterable and a threat? There's also recursion, which Revival / Revenge does a pretty good job at, but some other options I can think of for that are Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Lurrus of the Dream-Den, Necropanther, Vesperlark or Nethroi, Apex of Death.
Also, I know you don't have red, but General Ferrous Rokiric seems like it would be a good consideration for that type of a slot. Hexproof agaianst most removal and it synergizes with all of the multicolored you have going on.
Better fits as far as colors go are Reaper of the Wilds, Sigarda, Host of Herons, Thrun, the Last Troll, Witchstalker, Carnage Tyrant, Loxodon Smiter or Dragonlord Dromoka. Some are wish targets while others aren't, figured i'd throw out anything that had potential though.
To me, a wish target has to either be low enough that you can cast it same turn, or big and strong enough that you can cast it next turn and it turns the game around/seals the deal.
I just think you have a lot of slots in the sideboard that accomplish the same basic thing and you might be able to get away with condensing it a bit more to give more versatility for broader answers like psuedo-board wipes, silver-bullets, etc.
So if all that rambling somehow allows you to free up maybe a slot or 2 and still cover everything you need to cover, then maybe you will have the space to consider a broader selection of counterplay instead of just furthering your own strategy.
There's also things like Vindicate that hit lands too, which could help with the tron match as well as covering basically everything.
2 months ago
Scrib Nibblers Magma Vein Zuran Orb Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip Angrath, Minotaur Pirate Chandra, Bold Pyromancer Jaya, Venerated Firemage Rakdos, Lord of Riots Demon of Dark Schemes Burnt Offering Herald's Horn Revel in Riches Liliana of the Dark Realms Command Tower Blood Crypt Canyon Slough Badlands Shadowblood Ridge Luxury Suite Reflecting Pool Orcus, Prince of Undeath
3 months ago
For any users who have not yet seen the set, here is a link to the full information from the set, and the cards contained within are as follows:
I expected that those last two cards would be in this set, and they certainly have nice artwork, but this set, overall, feels far less powerful than did the green set, which severely disappoints me, as black is one of my two favorite colors in this game (the other being white).
, in no way am I doubting the power of Necropotence, but its two drawbacks can actually hurt a player in many situations, so I prefer Greed in the majority of situations, although I am still hoping for a reprint of Book of Rass at some point in the future.
After the excellence of the green set, I had high hopes for all future installments in this series, so the actual list of cards in this set is very disappointing. Hopefully, the remaining three colors shall all have excellent sets.
4 months ago
Leo_LordOfThePit thank you for commenting.
I agree that Seasoned Pyromancer is too good to pass up without a budget restriction. The reason it's not here is because this is mostly a manabase upgrade from a budget deck I've been brewing. I'll eventually get around to making a true non-budget version.
A better version of this deck would probably feature Seasoned Pyromancer , Liliana of the Veil , Thoughtseize , Collective Brutality , Bloodghast making the +2 from Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip much better. The problem I foresee is the number of humans dwindling too much making Winota, Joiner of Forces worse. Depending on the creature package Xathrid Necromancer should also be switched out for Teysa, Orzhov Scion .
The reason for the Tocatli Honor Guard is because exiling effects are very effective against this deck and a lot of these effects are creature etb based so they should really be in the 75. They are in the mainboard as a metagame call, maybe a wrong call, but if those effects aren't prominent deffinetly switch them with Rip Apart and Vanishing Verse .
I would love to see your version of the deck and how it fares. Best of luck.
4 months ago
Liliana of the Forward Order
Legendary Creature - Human Cleric
, : Prevent all damage a source of your choice would deal this turn.
, : Regenerate target creature. You gain control of that creature if it regenerates this way.
I'd like to see another planeswalker pre-spark, preferably well before their spark ignited.
5 months ago
Just adding a thought - the theme here from some of the cards you mentioned is sacrifice. So I would think this could be a deck where the likes of Mayhem Devil could strive.
As a rough concept, something like:
6 months ago
Can Eternal Witness return Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip to hand after Liliana returns Eternal Witness with her -X? Being that her -3 would put her in the graveyard, I'm assuming she would be a legal target for Witness.