Liliana, Heretical Healer

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Liliana, Heretical Healer

Legendary Creature — Human Cleric

Lifelink

Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies (is put into the graveyard from the battlefield), exile this, then return this to the battlefield transformed under this creature's owner's control. If you do, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.

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DawnsRayofLight on Chainer, Dementia Master

7 months ago

As someone who has played Chainer for close to a decade, I have some suggestions I would like to offer. (though everyone's decks run differently!)

34-35 lands is usually enough. I would recommend 34 with Agadeem's Awakening  Flip that gives you 5 spots:

In those spots:

Mana Crypt

Thought Vessel

Charcoal Diamond

Coldsteel Heart

Jet Medallion

(Or all the expensive artifacts like Grim Monolith or what have you)

In place of:

1x Cast Down--> Lethal Scheme: This card is amazing in any reanimator list

1x Culling the Weak--> Phyrexian Altar: you need more sac outlets with some staying power

1x Dismember--> Soul Transfer: seems janky, but versatile

1x Doom Blade--> Baleful Mastery: you can hit more with it.

1x Go for the Throat--> Infernal Grasp

1x Power Word Kill--> Deadly Rollick/Altar of Dementia: for a better killspell or for a sac outlet

1x Sacrifice--> Ashnod's Altar: need more sac outlets with staying power

1x Terror--> Meteor Golem: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove

1x Victim of Night--> Karn Liberated: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove

Cruel Tutor--> Mikaeus, the Unhallowed: bonkers for some staying power, also has combo potential

Unmarked Grave--> Putrid Goblin: this or Walking Ballista are good for combos with Mikaeus. Putrid GOblin + Ashnod's Altar/Phyrexian Altar + Mikaeus = infinite mana (or sub ashnod's altar for mill).

Suggested Drops, see next list for suggested replacements

Blood Pet--> sort of an eh card, I might think of something with more oomph

Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip--> I do like her, she just never did anything when I ran her.

Ruthless Technomancer: I have debated a lot adding him, in something like Korvold, he is an all-star, in chainer, he can be good, but I would almost always rather have Disciple of Bolas

Skirge Familiar: I get the reason it is in here, but there are better cards.

Black Market: It's nice, but can be too slow.

Liliana of the Dark Realms: I just have never been a big fan, she feels too lackluster.

Final Parting: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough

Sidisi, Undead Vizier: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough

Rune-Scarred Demon: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough, there also some stronger creatures to fit in the spot.

Suggestions

Archon of Cruelty: expensive mana wise but an all star.

Kokusho, the Evening Star: has been in my deck from the beginning and has flat out won me games.

Brainstealer Dragon: seems janky, but I added to just try it and it has been amazing.

Black Market Connections: You need more draw (also helps with ramp)

Phyrexian Arena: You need more draw

Bolas's Citadel: an amazing card. Wins games all the time.

Disciple of Bolas: card draw and life gain

Fell Stinger: card draw

Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed: Great for recursion

Reanimate, Liliana, Death's Majesty, Living Death. and Animate Dead: it is good to have other means of reanimation if Chainer keeps getting removed (I also suggest sac outlets to help keep your creatures from getting exiled when they spot remove Chainer)

Hope this helps! Here is my list to maybe show you how I run the list: The True Meaning of Death and Taxes

CamraMaan on Flip cards and Baba Lysaga, …

7 months ago

I have Baba Lysaga, Night Witch in play as well as Liliana, Defiant Necromancer (the back side of Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip). If I sacrifice Liliana, Diant Necromancer to Baba Lysaga, which side matters, or do both...? Does it only see a Legendary Planeswalker, or does it only see a Legendary Creature, or both...? My assumption is Baba Lysaga will see the Planeswalker, but I can see room for the front side being seen instead. Thanks in advance! :)

Metroid_Hybrid on Need help making a pair …

9 months ago

I recently decided to rebuild my first viable Commander deck (Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip), and while I think I've done a decent job updating it, I've also hit a bit of a snag..

There was two creatures that did a lot of work in the original build, they are Massacre Wurm and Kokusho, the Evening Star. I want to include them as well, but I'm having a hard time deciding what to cut for them. So I was hoping to get some outside help on the matter.

What should I cut for one, both, or neither?


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Nick_V on CEDH Tergrid Stax

9 months ago

Adjusted deck a little:

Remove

Add

**The other 2 Sac lands I will wait for the next modern set to hopefully reprint them. My next add will probably be Prismatic Vista

**I want to add Morbid Opportunist I have been playing with it on MTG Arena and it has done very well and that's 1v1. I think it will shine in commander. Just have to decide what to drop.

Profet93 on The Black Machine

10 months ago

hootsnag

Let me know what you think of each suggestion...

Bitterblossom/Reassembling Skeleton + Contamination = Fun times

You really need more token production such as...

Grave Titan - ETB and attack token production

Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip - Easy to trigger, creates a token to defend itself

Liliana, Dreadhorde General > Lili Ves - Static ability/draw, token production, removal and wincon

More Artifact ramp would help such as....

Mana Crypt, Mana Vault and Jeweled Lotus all put in work.

Additional Draw would really help like....

Syphon Mind - Cheap $, each opponent discard 1, you draw 3. Good value all around

Necropotence - When you need cards, you get cards.

Phyrexian Arena - Simple and easy

Read the Bones - Least impactful but the scry is really clutch

Various.....

Yawgmoth's Will - Best card black can buy. Don't sleep on this

Dismember - I've found it useful, I like the ability to kill most creatures with 1 mana

The Meathook Massacre - While unsure if this is the best fit, it seems to go well with your tokens. Plus, the lifegain helps offset some of black's lifeloss cards

Damnation - When things need to die

I have several ideas of cuts if you would like to hear them. Looking forward to your response

Metroid_Hybrid on My new power scale

1 year ago

The general topic of "power levels", in Commander in particular, has always annoyed me. Luckily the LGS that I played at really didn't stress the the subject that much. Considering that most have been playing mtg 5~10+ years, and therefore most of which were coming with all kinds of crazy combos & interactions. In contrast, there is/was a few young teens with their first & only deck that they've been playing with for the past year as well. At the end of the day, everybody is playing to win, but that is where the chaotic environment that is a 4 (or more) player free-for-all comes into play. In most cases whoever pulls ahead early and becomes the first credible threat (for whatever reason), and/or has the scariest tier-1 Commander, tends to get targeted by the rest of the table.

In the above scenario, this is how a "low-tier" Commander can (potentially) creep up from behind & clean up in the aftermath of near cEDH-level opponents A, B, and C duking it out for several turns. In retrospect, this was actually how I managed to win many of the games that I did. It's almost as if (for example) my old Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip deck would actually perform better with a slower-paced hand at a higher power table, than say... dropping an early Contamination against a table of heavily upgraded precons..

Neotrup on How does Edgar, Charmed Groom …

1 year ago

Assuming Infinite Reflection is still enchanting Edgar, Charmed Groom  Flip, the creatures will return with their back face up as Edgar, Charmed Groom  Flip. They will not be Edgar Markov's Coffin because Infinite Reflection is still making them enter as copies of the creature Edgar, Charmed Groom  Flip, not as an actual copy of the card. If they're instructed to transform by some other means, you'll flip the card over, but they'll still be copying Edgar, Charmed Groom  Flip.

If Infinite Reflection is no longer in play, the creatures will return on their back face, not copying anything, so as Lord of Lineage and Angelic Enforcer as @Polaris mentioned.

If the transforming double face card isn't a creature on the back side, it will return as the back side regardless of whether Infinite Reflection is still in play, such as Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip returning as Liliana, Defiant Necromancer or Golden Guardian  Flip returning as Gold-Forge Garrison. In the case of the card returning as an aura (such as Faithbound Judge  Flip or Binding Geist  Flip returning as Sinner's Judgment or Spectral Binding) you get to choose the object the aura enchants, and doing so does not target so you can enchant an object with Shroud or Hexproof.

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