Vengeful Ancestor

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Vengeful Ancestor

Creature — Dragon Spirit

Flying

Whenever Vengeful Ancestor enters the battlefield or attacks, goad target creature. (Until your next turn, that creature attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)

Whenever a goaded creature attacks, it deals 1 damage to its controller.

Aceh on X gon' give it to ya' [Xantcha EDH]

5 months ago

Hi, love your deck wow!, Vengeful Ancestor could be nice in here

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Coach Kardur

6 months ago

This looks pretty cool!

Cauldron of Souls with a sac-outlet and a way to put +1 counters on Kardur seems like a great option for more goading. Also, Vengeful Ancestor and Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant seem like great additional ways to goad some creatures. The same is true for Bloodthirsty Blade and especially Shiny Impetus.

Finally, as you're already planning to trigger Kardurs etb as often as possible, Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Fanatic of Mogis would be great alternative wincons.

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Budget - Marisi, Breaker of the Coil - EDH

8 months ago

Frenzied Saddlebrute is always a good choice for a forced combat list. Also, Vengeful Ancestor and Disrupt Decorum are powerful god effects. Finally, Fumiko the Lowblood.

Oldbear on Ruric TharrrrRRRRRRHHHHHH!

9 months ago

okay, added

  • Terror of the Peaks just so so good with all the big creatures in this deck
  • Cindervines more punishment of non creature cards and added removal
  • Witch's Clinic lifelink in this deck is very helpful - I have been a little concerned with not getting enough R & G mana sources given how many double and triple pipped cards i have so I'm gonna be careful about how many more colourless lands i add.

Removed

  • a forest
  • Soul of New Phyrexia I found this too expensive and keeping mana open just in case is not always an option given how the high curve for this deck.
  • Vengeful Ancestor added this but didn't update a little while ago, it is okay but cindervines was a little more synergistic so I'm giving that a try at the moment

Cosmoesis on Curse me love

9 months ago

Not curses but curse adjacent flavor in goading: (12 suggestions) 1)Shiny Impetus 2)Psychic Impetus 3)Parasitic Impetus 4)Disrupt Decorum 5)Vengeful Ancestor 6)Bloodthirsty Blade 7)Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant 8)Jeering Homunculus 9)Goblin Racketeer 10)Grenzo, Havoc Raiser 11)Coveted Peacock 12)Kardur, Doomscourge

Other Curse like things with wither: (12 suggestions - some of these aren't very good and can be left out) 1)Stigma Lasher 2)Fang Skulkin 3+4)Nest of Scarabs + Corrosive Mentor 5)Everlasting Torment 6)Needle Specter 7)Midnight Banshee 8)Kulrath Knight 9)Necroskitter 10)Fists of the Demigod 11)Cinderbones 12)Oona's Gatewarden

Add 12 more lands (36 cards suggested total) + 56 cards currently on the list = 92 cards

Remaining 8 slots should be card draw, removal and Board-wipes (15 suggestions here) 1)Rhystic Study 2)Erebos, God of the Dead 3)Wheel of Misfortune 4)Shadowmage Infiltrator 5)Phyrexian Arena 6)Eye of Vecna 7)Blue Sun's Zenith 8)Tragic Slip 9)Go for the Throat 10)Doom Blade 11)Feed the Swarm 12)Ravenform 13)Chaos Warp 14)Damnation 15)Ritual of Soot

Conflykt on The Brown Spider

10 months ago

Totally agree with you on the Forgotten Realms set. Karazikar, Vengeful Ancestor, and even Wulfgar of Icewind Dale could be fed into the Thantis engine for what she does best. The combinations I saw with it is actually why I wanted to focus on her for my return to big playgroups and getting back to the US in general.

multimedia on Dragon riders

11 months ago

Hey, well done, nice update especially the cutting of Knights for more Dragons. Nice upgrades of cards that care about Dragons, but you could expand on this further. You've doubled your budget by adding only three Dragons.

Streamlining is the process of cutting out filler cards leaving you with cards that matter more for your deck. Blood Knight and Silver Knight are vanilla Knights who don't really help gameplay thus my advice is avoid these types of Knights. You're still playing too many Knights that are not helping gameplay.

My advice is don't include a Knight because it's a Knight, being a Knight is a bonus. Instead include it because it has other good abilities that can help Dragons or efficiently make Sylvia better. Taurean Mauler is an exception, it's just a three drop Dragon that's also a Knight. It's both types of creatures as well as can grow big in multiplayer Commander when have many opponents which is good with double strike. Instead of playing many four drop Knights play four drop Dragons?

You also use streamlining to better the mana curve which helps gameplay by reducing the curve which happens when you cut out unnecessary high CMC cards such as Rowan's Stalwarts, Worldgorger Dragon, Ancestor Dragon, Caged Sun. Worldgorger Dragon is only good in decks that want to combo with Animate Dead to make infinite mana and infinite ETB triggers of creatures. You can't combo with Worldgorger, all it's doing here is exiling all your permanents including all your lands until it leaves the battlefield which would hurt gameplay more than help it. Rowan's Stalwarts tutoring for Rowan, Fearless Sparkmage is not worth it since Stalwarts is a really bad card for five mana and Rowan is subpar for five mana too.


Example of a streamlined midrange creature base with Dragons and some Knights (sorted by CMC):

The few Knights in this example give you more than just being a Knight and the emphasis is even more on Dragons not Knights. More four and five drop Dragons to take more advantage of early game ramp and Sylvia's double strike.

In the example the high CMC Dragons have been reduced to the best ones you have. Khorvath is also a high CMC Dragon who you want to cast. Worldgorger Dragon, Ancestor Dragon, Demanding Dragon, Eternal Dragon, Sunscorch Regent, Runehorn Hellkite, Skyline Despot are subpar compared to the other high CMC Dragons here thus you don't need them. In the place of one of these Dragons consider adding Sarkhan's Triumph? It's an instant tutor to search for any Dragon letting you choose the best Dragon at that point of the game.

Shall I continue in another comment about how to streamline other areas of your deck?

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