Hordewing Skaab

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Pre-release Legal
Standard Legal
Vintage Legal

Hordewing Skaab

Creature — Zombie Horror

Flying

Other Zombies you control have flying

When one or more Zombies you control deal combat damage to one or more of your opponents, you may draw cards equal to the number of opponents dealt damage this way. If you do, discard that many cards.

multimedia on Rotcleaver’s Revenge

3 months ago

Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon, nice Phyrexian Altar.

Some cards from the precon to consider adding:

Talisman of Dominance ETB untapped to make either color. Another mana rock upgrade is Dimir Signet replacing Charcoal Diamond. Dreadhorde Invasion is a repeatable source of Zombie and Eternal Skylord is a much worse Hordewing Skaab. Curse of the Restless Dead is a more reliable repeatable source of Zombies than Undead Alchemist.

Pact of the Serpent is powerful tribal card for Zombies. Battle at the Bridge needs lots more artifacts to be playable. Zombie Apocalypse is powerful tribal card for Zombies especially when your Commander sacs Zombies to draw. Patriarch's Bidding is another mass reanimation tribal Zombie card. Dread Summons needs a ton of mana paid into it to be decent since you have no control over milling your own or opponent creatures.

Gisa and Geralf can be repeatable cast of Zombies from your graveyard which can do more than Ebondeath, Dracolich. Feed the Swarm is helpful to have enchantment removal in Dimir. Liliana, Death's Majesty can be repeatable Zombies and her other abilities are good too. She does more than Liliana's Mastery, but honestly you don't need either one of these cards since there's better five drops here or could add.

The more basic Islands you can replace with Dimir dual lands the better the manabase will be because black mana is much important than blue. Lots of basic Islands makes it more difficult to cast heavy black spells. Tainted Isle and Choked Estuary are playable lands in the precon that care about Swamps and you have a lot of Swamps.

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Black blue deck

3 months ago

Hey, I saw your forum topic asking for help. Fine start on a low budget, but do you want a Dimir Zombie deck or a control deck?

I ask because you're not playing a Zombie as 4x instead all the instants you're playing are 4x. If playing Champion of the Perished my advice is focus more on Zombies and less on control to better trigger Champion. Right now the core of your deck are instants, not Zombies which isn't helping Champion. Be more aggressive with Zombies and Champion, relying less on control? More control can go in your sideboard for certain matchups, but it doesn't have to be main deck.

Honestly, on a low budget you're better off playing mono black Zombies with all basic Swamps rather than having a less than ideal slow two color Dimir manabase with many lands that come into play tapped. The problem is all the blue spells that aren't Zombies. You can get enough blue sources for blue Zombies with tribal lands such as budget Unclaimed Territory, but it can't cast Counterspell.

You can get control from just black playing Legacy with main deck Hymn to Tourach. It's a powerful effect for two mana since your opponent has no choice over what they discard. 4x Duress in the sideboard is good for control on a budget. Hymn is better control with Zombies than Counterspell because it's black.


Consider 1x more Champion of the Perished? You want to have the most chances of having it turn one and it's the reason you're playing Zombies. Champion can benefit from more one drop and two drop Zombies which can increase the aggression to make Diregraf Captain pack more of a punch. Hordewing Skaab is more powerful when you have more Zombies. Dread Wanderer can reanimate itself and Diregraf Ghoul is fine on a budget as another one drop Zombie.Bladestitched Skaab is 2/3 two drop Zombie lord and it's a good reason to play blue with Zombies.

Don't be afraid to use your life as a resource for Undead Augur who can be repeatable draw when your Zombies die. The effect lets you keep swinging with Zombies and it's board wipe recovery. Graf Reaver is a 3/3 two drop Zombie who can pick off a Planeswalker if needed and it's good with Zombie lords.

Dark Ritual can help to have fast starts when playing more one drop and two drop black Zombies and it also lets you reduce the amount of lands since it's ramp. Turn one cast Ritual to cast up to three one drop Zombies or a one drop Zombie and Hymn to Tourach, etc. Ramp out Hordewing Skaab turn three with three lands after playing a Zombie turn one and turn two, etc.

Infernal Grasp is a better main deck creature removal than Doom Blade since Grasp can destroy any targetable creature. Doom is more of a sideboard card if played at all to bring in against mono green, white or red decks.

Tainted Isle is now a budget Dimir land that enters the battlefield untapped that cares about basic Swamps. Choked Estuary can enter the battlefield untapped if you reveal a basic Swamp from your hand. These dual lands are some budget upgrades to consider.


This is an example of a budget Zombie core to start with for Champion of the Perished:

If you're interested I'll continue with more advice in another comment including some cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.

Necrosis24 on DePietro and Channel?

10 months ago

This has made me realize I’ve been reading Ghost of Ramirez DePietro wrong this entire time. I thought his trigger was tied to the player that was dealt damage.

Well anyways my top pick for a partner would be Tormod, the Desecrator for all the graveyard shenanigans (i.e Living Death) and discard value.

Some high synergy cards would be:

Looking at channel tho there seems to be a higher density in temur so you would have access to better ramp and can do wheel/card draw affects. So perhaps Tana, the Bloodsower with:

  • Rielle, the Everwise

  • Brallin, Skyshark Rider  Flip
  • The Locust God + Wheels
  • Conspiracy Theorist
  • Mizzix's Mastery + Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
  • Glint-Horn Buccaneer
  • Surly Badgersaur
  • Otherwise you can go for purate tribal in izzet with Breeches, Brazen Plunderer or monoblue with Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator

    multimedia on Undead Unleashed

    1 year ago

    Hey, nice upgrades of Demonic, Acererak, Stitcher, Gravecrawler, Grim, Sidisi, Cryptbreaker, Master, Undead, Remembrance, Titan, Victimize, Misty, Drowned, Clearwater.

    Interesting choices to cut the mana rock ramp other than Sol from the precon and reduced the lands from 40 to 31. Reducing the lands is fine because 40 lands in the precon is too much. Although, only 31 lands is pretty risky; I wouldn't play below 34 if I'm not playing green. The problem is you haven't compensated for the reduction of lands by adding more ramp to have enough mana or more low CMC draw to help to draw lands or some of both. It looks like you have cut lands to add more high CMC cards which is the wrong approach when upgrading a precon.

    With a budget of $400+ consider adding the mana rocks? The precon has Arcane Signet, Talisman of Dominance and Crowded Crypt, all these are good. Add to these Dimir Signet and Thought Vessel; these two are upgrades for the Diamonds. More low CMC draw can also replace lands such as Brainstorm, Preordain, Deadly Dispute, Frantic Search, Village Rites.

    Dreadhorde Invasion is a two drop in the precon and it's a good repeatable Zombie source for Wilhelt. Sac the Zombie Army token at your end step on each of your turns for a repeatable draw source that only costs you 1 life on your turn. Midnight Reaper is also in the precon and it's a Zombie who can be a repeatable source of draw especially with Gravecrawler.


    Some cards to consider cutting because they're not as good as others here:

    I don't think you have the mana to support X spells such as Summons and Empty to get enough from them to be worth casting. Adding Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would help also with casting Army.


    With Gravecrawler to combo with Rooftop you need a sac outlet. To combo with Wilhelt and Poppet Factory you also need a sac outlet. Consider adding some sac outlets?

    • Blasting Station: can be the win condition with either Gravecrawler or Factory combo.
    • Carrion Feeder: one drop Zombie.
    • Ashnod's Altar: combos with Havengul Lich + Rooftop to repeatedly reanimate/sac/reanimate all Zombies in all graveyards.
    • Altar of Dementia: infinite mills all your opponents when you control Factory by repeatedly sacing just one Zombie. Can also be the win condition with Gravecrawler + Rooftop.

    If you're wanting to win with combo especially with Rooftop then consider some protection for the combo? Lazotep Plating, Counterspell, Swan Song, Flusterstorm.

    Good luck with your deck.

    TypicalTimmy on Innistrad: Crimson Vow

    1 year ago

    Metroid_Hybrid, Hordewing Skaab.

    Enjoy your nightmare fuel.

    Coward_Token on Innistrad: Crimson Vow

    1 year ago

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    1 year ago

    Hey, well done with upgrades to the precon. For being new to Magic you've added some really good cards. Nice stained glass Liliana :)

    The Poppet Factory combo with Wilhelt for infinite Zombies with Diregraf Captain as the win condition needs a sac outlet. Grimgrin, Corpse-Born and Ashnod's Altar are good, but only two sac outlets for the combo isn't really enough. Carrion Feeder is a one drop Zombie.

    Apprentice Necromancer can reanimate Poppet Stitcher  Flip at instant speed at the end step of your last opponent before your next upkeep. With Wilhelt when you sac Necromancer you create a Zombie token which could be the third token you need to flip into Factory. I'm not positive, but I think if Stitcher flips into Factory than you don't have to sac Factory at the end step Apprentice trigger because it's no longer a creature.

    Carrion Feeder and Apprentice Necromancer could replace two of the higher CMC cards here to reduce the mana curve. Ruthless Deathfang and Overseer of the Damned are just not as good as the other 6 or 7 CMC cards namely Liliana, Rooftop, Titan, Dominance even Hex.


    There's a few cards in the precon that were cut that you should consider adding back.

    Dreadhorde Invasion creates a Zombie token for the cost of only 1 life at your upkeep to give you a constant source of a Zombie to sac with Wilhelt at your end step. Zombie Apocalypse is mass reanimation for Zombies, all Zombies in your graveyard.

    Hordewing Skaab gives flying to all Zombies you control and it can also be repeatable loot (draw then discard). Midnight Reaper is another Zombie who draws when it dies as well as can be repeatable draw whenever any nontoken Zombie dies.

    Eternal Skylord only gives flying to Zombie tokens, not giving flying to Wilhelt makes it lackluster. Cellar Door will miss more than hit since you don't have a way to control getting a creature to the bottom of your library or your opponents libraries. Paying three mana and having this miss is pretty bad. Cancel is not needed because you have three other much better counterspells.

    Good luck with your deck.

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