Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen
Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying.)
Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1.
Whenever Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen attacks, you gain 1 life for each attacking Elf you control.
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Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen Discussion
6 months ago
Decent budget version of the deck. I would suggest adding more good Elves to it though. For that reason I recommend Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen , Yeva, Nature's Herald (especially nice with an untapper like Seedborn Muse or Mobilize ) and basic things mana dorks like Llanowar Elves , Elvish Mystic etc. To make room for them I'd take out some of the higher CMC common and uncommon elves that don't have a huge impact, such as Lys Alana Bowmaster and Eyeblight Cullers, maybe Revenant too.
Consider Ezuri, Renegade Leader as well. Elves don't like board wipes!
11 months ago
There are a few cards making very little sense to me:
Primal Amulet - Right now you're running 4 instants & sorceries.
Library of Leng - Are you drawing that much? Is your meta that full of discard? Reliquary Tower would be a better fit unless your meta is really heavy on discard.
Grinding Station - You're playing few artifacts. I think I counted 13. Might be wrong though. Still, most of those artifacts are stuff you don't want to sac.
Tower Above + Bequeathal - Your commander gives shroud to most of your creatures. You don't want to target them 99.9% of the time. Considering your commander and the fact that people will try to get rid of it asap I might go with Myth Unbound.
Most of the lands coming into play tapped. Most of them are subpar.
Adaptive Automaton - Elves have more than enough lords. No need for a non-green creature.
Allosaurus Rider - Although I'm not against this card per se, I think you'll need to play more stuff to make it work. Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape + Kodama's Reach and whichever other mana ramp you can add to the deck.
Beast of Burden - There are elves that do this. Heedless One, Jagged-Scar Archers and Drove of Elves (which you're playing) are elves and they get shroud from the commander. The 1st has trample, the 2nd kills fliers and the 3rd has hexproof which is good when your commander is out.
Bloom Tender - This card belongs in multicolored decks. Preferably 3 or more colors. You have several elves that tap for G, costing 1 cmc. At 2 cmc you'll prefer Priest of Titania.
Fangren Marauder - High CMC, triggers on artifacts destroyed only and does something that comes natural to elves: lifegain. Wellwisher is way better.
Llanowar Mentor - You're not playing madness, I don't see anything to abuse cards from your grave... Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury is way better.
Mishra's Self-Replicator - Feeds Grinding Station, I know. Still, not that good, I believe.
Shaman of Spring - Masked Admirers does the same, has the same cmc and is repeatable.
Silhana Wayfinder - I'd prefer Wood Elves.
Spire Tracer - Meh.
Weatherseed Elf - Might work if you find a way of turning your non-green opponents lands into forests. My fav way is Deepwood Elder.
Some cards you might consider:
Lys Alana Huntmaster - Token generation. Self explanatory, I believe.
Marwyn, the Nurturer - Mana acceleration.
Wolf-Skull Shaman - Card advantage. Works quite well with Sylvan Library.
1 year ago
Hey there! Elves are indeed a super fun creature type, I've whipped up a few decks for them in the past, thus I may have some suggestions that may be of use for you! First off, Twilight Mire would make a great addition to this deck, and I can say from experience that they help you quite a bit. There is also Blooming Marsh, which may not be your thing, but works very well for me in some of my decks. Strip Mine/Wasteland can definitely up the power-level of your deck, as almost nothing works better than destroying your opponent's lands, especially since the ability is hard to stop. Ancient Tomb is also an amazing card, and based on the card costs in your deck, I think you could use this quite a lot to your advantage in the deck, especially because you're gaining life. Last but not least, I would possibly recommend Mana Confluence, City of Brass, and Reflecting Pool, if you think your mana base needs it, though I think it looks pretty fine without it. You may also want to replace all your basics with Snow-Covered Swamps and Snow-Covered Forest, as they are cheap, and function the exact same as basics, meaning they are still considered basic lands, etc, except they can be very good if you are facing a snow deck. While this isn't likely, it is always something to consider. Speaking of the mana base, there are some notable cards missing here, and I would consider the following for ramp: Birds of Paradise, Sylvan Caryatid, Nature's Lore/Three Visits, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Exploration, Burgeoning, Explore, Emerald Medallion, Sol Ring, and of course Arcane Signet. I understand a couple of your elves can ramp, but its good to at least have 7-10 ramp spells in the deck, and some of the above might be very helpful in that regard. Now enough about the manabase, how about we look into your elves! Here are a list of a bunch of elves you way want to consider: Abomination of Llanowar, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Marwyn, the Nurturer, Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen, Fauna Shaman, Allosaurus Shepherd, Shaman of the Pack, Elvish Champion, Heritage Druid, Yeva, Nature's Herald, Joraga Treespeaker, Wirewood Symbiote, and many more! You also may want to consider some tribal cards, like Coat of Arms, Vanquisher's Banner, Door of Destinies, Herald's Horn, Urza's Incubator, etc. Last but not least, you may want to include Umbral Mantle, Sword of the Paruns, and Staff of Domination, because if you have Elvish Archdruid, Priest of Titania, or something that gives 3+ mana, you can get INFINITE mana with these cards, making them quite good! Anyways, these card suggestions may not be your sort of thing, or they may give you something to think about, but either way feel free to check out some of my decks, like Double Trouble EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷, and give them some support if this helped! Now I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a wonderful day! Happy tapping!
1 year ago
Argothian Elder This feels too awkward for mana fixing and I can't remember why it's there.
Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen This is one of two sources of lifegain, a lord, and... maybe not good enough?
Elvish Harbinger I'm not sure I need this many tutors, and it works poorly with poacher. Oth, tutor all color manadork ain't bad.
Elvish Visionary I'm guessing there's better versions at higher cmc now, but I may still want this one.
Izoni, Thousand-Eyed I really just want to play her a time or three and see if she works. She's very mana hungry all around though.
Reveille Squad This may just be win-more, and has to be telegraphed before attackers are declared
Timberwatch Elf Imaculate magistrate is a better version of this card, but having both has made the difference before
Wirewood Channeler This is the worst version of this effect I have, but does tap for any color.
Aura Shards This card is gross bonkers... BUUUUTTTT i only have so many, and this may be the deck that needs it LEAST?
Selesnya Signet This and sol ring are my only mana rocks... if I'm running no others, I probably don't need this one.
Reito Lantern If it's unclear, this is graveyard hate and ETB self tuck. It's... it's cute. I don't know if it's good. But it may be cute enough to keep.
1 year ago
Hi my dude, personally i think that Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen has very little use in your deck. as you already have better buffs for your elves stapled to better creatures like Elvish Archdruid. might i suggest Shadowspear if you are using Dwynen for the lifegain, as shadowspear will enable your commander to become a trample lifelinker. And as it also removes hexproof and indestructible from your opponents creatures which can be an invaluable asset.
1 year ago
First, play whatever cards you want or feel like. Your deck, your gameplay, and Have Fun!
The following are all friendly suggestions not in any way meant as criticism of your deck. But the singleton thing should get stopped. Figure out which elves work best for your local metagame and the decks you play against. Then go to 2 or 4 copies each of them. Cut the situational cards and put them in the sideboard for game 2 or remove them entirely. I would also follow abby315's list of suggestions and his suggestion of ditching weak pump spells and replace them with the various lords or creatures with a pump capability like others have suggested. Here is a list of cards that may be decent replacements or adds to your deck:
Ezuri, Renegade Leader is probably one of the better elf cards for aggro elves. Provides Regeneration for any other elves you have and Overrun at will. I would go to a 2 count
Imperious Perfect: Replace Wirewood Hivemaster with this card. The hivemaster produces insects so they wont bonus from your anthem/lord effects. Is not legendary so you can have up to 4 copies. Besides pumping all your other elves, they even produce them every turn. Worth 2-4 copies.
Reclamation Sage: Replace Deconstruct with this, maybe go to 2 copies main deck. But if the deck is for 1 on 1 put them in the sideboard for game 2.
Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen: Replace Stream of Life with this guy, go to 2 copies of this maybe
Loxodon Warhammer, Rancor or anything like them: Replace your instants that boost creatures with permanents like these or similar instead. Or if you are going to have a combat trick in your hand then make it something like Overwhelming Stampede, Wrap in Vigor or Heroic Intervention like abby315 suggested. If it's not a permanent you want a card that is going to change the game state dramatically not just boost 1 creature for 1 turn. Remember, if you have a card like Ezuri, Renegade Leader or your Timberwatch Elf you can activate his ability at instant speed which surprises people if they lose track of what you have in play.
Return of the Wildspeaker: An example of a go big instant instead of cards like Giant Growth. Replace any instant you have with this card. Its modal to refill your hand or giant growth all of your elves. At instant speed.
Beast Within: If you want instant speed removal, use a catch-all card like this instead of 1 card for artifacts, 1 card for creatures, etc. It doesnt need to be this card specifcally but one that targets any permanent at instant speed. And run at least 2 copies of it main deck to always have an answer in your deck for your opponent's stuff.
Lifecrafter's Bestiary: Replace wurm's tooth with a copy of this card instead. It will accelerate your deck. 2 copies wouldnt hurt.
Some good utlity cards:
Bow of Nylea: Excellent all around support card. Does many things but the big one is giving your elves deathtouch so even when you attack with them when they are tiny, they kill stuff. All the other utility is amazing value.
Leyline of Abundance: Another mana ramp/anthem/lord option that has a chance of getting put into play on turn 1.
Nullmage Shepherd: This card is like repeatable Naturalize. Sometimes holding an instant in your hand is better, but sometimes repeatable wins games.
Titania's Chosen: Replace stuff like Wurm's tooth or Nomadic Elf, Norwood Ranger with cards like this or some of your other better creatures you should be running more copies of.
Masked Admirers: Another good elf creature that provides a repeatable benefit that can be used to replace other cards you arent thrilled about.
Creeping Renaissance: Following someone wiping the table, this card or Fresh Meat can get you right back into the game.
Planeswalker suggestions. Because they are resistant to removal and can add a lot to a game if it goes long. Multiple repeatable abilities are strong. They are expensive, and I would try to trade for them if possible. If interested:
Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury: She makes llanowar elves! And she basically does all the things in Green's pie. Makes lots of elves, destroys artifacts and enchantments at will and draws cards.
Nissa, Who Shakes the World: Not on theme for elves, but she is so strong that I would feel lame not mentioning it for a mono green deck. Her static ramps you crazy style and her ultimate can finish games.
Nissa Revane: Basically, her ultimate would put all 24 of your elves into play in one turn. If you do want to put copies of her in your deck, I would also suggest replacing some other elves with 4 copies of Nissa's Chosen for added value.
Vivien Reid: This is a well-balanced walker for any green deck. Built in card advantage, removal and flyer killing, and then her ultimate is an emblem better than almost any other lord/anthem effect you can put in the deck.
Garruk Wildspeaker: My lowest choice for the list, but he plays early and produces creatures.
Land Suggestions. You may not need them, being mono-green doesnt mean there arent a couple good lands for your deck:
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood: While this is in play, most every creature you cast will get a counter. Basically a free boost for a little tempo loss.
Rogue's Passage: Does what it says, sometimes you only need 1 more hit to win. And it taps for some mana.
Pendelhaven: As long as this is untapped, a shock spell wont kill an elf! Kind of situational but useful.
Treetop Village: A forest that's also a 3/3 creature when you need it.
Again, these are just ideas to get you thinking about ways to improve your deck. The most important thing is to focus on what you want to do with the deck. Then get 4 copies of every card in your deck that makes that happen. Everything else after that should provide support, advantage or acceleration for those main cards.
1 year ago
Cool deck! My only suggestion is maybe try and find room for Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen, because the life gain can be crucial in burn matchups
1 year ago
Hey, saw your post on reddit and couldn't help but check it out. I love me some elfball, so here's what I've got for you. Everything is of course my opinion and to be taken with ample helpings of salt. Hope it helps!
Lands: Mosswort Bridge is a trap, though I haven't tried it in elves yet. Reliquary Tower is a trap, when you fire off in an elfball deck you can usually cast what you draw. I'm okay with your tapped cycling lands bc they cycle, so that's fine, and Oran-Rief, the Vastwood is sneaky good. It's the only tapland I tend to run. Your best land by far is Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and the best way to get it is Crop Rotation. When you already have it, you'll want to use it for an instant-speed Wasteland/Strip Mine or Wirewood Lodge. I don't usually run Ancient Tomb in elves but there's nothing saying you can't, and it helps when you have plenty of things with generic costs, as you do, along with some lifegain.
Potential Cuts and Swaps: Harmonize out, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip in: Harmonize is a classic, but Growing Rites never disappoints. Even if it whiffs, you probably have a gaea's cradle at end of turn.
Overwhelming Stampede out, Finale of Devastation in: You already have the Ibex, and the Finale is far more versatile than the Stampede can ever be. Can grab all sorts of things instead of being a single pump and dump. Considering it could double Marwyn's mana output for a turn could earn its keep, though.
Wellwisher out, Essence Warden in: Incidental lifegain, if you want to use it, might be more reliable than being able to tap the Wellwisher for its effect reliably. Also, the Warden triggers on all creatures, including opponents.
Desert of the Indomitable out, Veil of Summer in: This card is just too good. Also, 33 lands is too many (I know, but you'd be surprised!) and this one ETB taps AND cycles for 2 mana instead of 1, so I'd cut it.
Doubling Season out, Asceticism in: I'm not sold on Doubling Season here, honestly, as Hardened Scales could serve the same purpose in most cases regarding the way this deck puts +1/+1 counters on things one at a time (mostly). If you REALLY want to lean in on the token doubling from Lys Alana Huntmaster, Elvish Promenade, and Imperious Perfect then it might could stay.
Genesis Wave out, Kindred Summons in: This counts tokens...it is ridiculous and casting it when you only have 3 or 4 elves out still feels great, whereas if you flip Praetor's Counsel with a nasty Genesis Wave you're a sad panda.
Dwynen's Elite needs a home here, its 2 mana for 2 counters on Marwyn, among other benefits. Not sure on what to pull out, but I've never been a big fan of Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen herself, really. You don't want to stack too deep on lord effects when its so easy to tutor them out or draw them for an explosive growth instead.
The last thing I will note, is that any non-Elf REALLY needs to earn its keep. Each and every elf in your list makes it stronger, be it with more mana, more tokens, more counters, all of those things.
The reddit thread has some great recommendations on cards to check out as well, so you've got a lot to sift through. Good base though!
Rhys Up is my current GB list, there might be some ideas for you in the main and maybe boards. The deck is mostly green but plays my favorite black stuff, and most of the cost difference between these two lists lies in the manabase.