Fresh Meat

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Create a 3/3 green Beast creature token for each creature put into your graveyard from the battlefield this turn.

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griffstick on Are there any old cards …

1 month ago

That's in the deck too. It works great with Fresh Meat . 10 mana to pull it off though. However March of Souls feeds into a token strategy better than Phyrexian Rebirth with the right set up it yields better results nearly every time. These results will vary based on the decks I'm up against and the situation the board state presents. But from my experience since both are in the deck. March of Souls has won me the game and Phyrexian Rebirth has not.

griffstick on Are there any old cards …

1 month ago

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I put my selvala deck here on edhrec to see what my most unique cards are in it. And I found that March of Souls wasn't being used in most decks. It was the most unique card in my deck. But why? It's a token deck so March of Souls is perfect for it. I wipe the board clear of creatures and the problems that they come with, and replace mine with possibly better ones with March of Souls . The deck also uses board wipes to it's advantage. With cards like Fresh Meat , and other cards making March of Souls perfect. Futher more most token decks use token doublers. Or enhancers like Divine Visitation . So this makes March of Souls even better. If you guys think that's cool check out the deck here.

So what's some other older cards that maybe have been forgotten about. Ones in certain decks that need to see more play, in the right type of build. I want you guys to name some cards, and share your decks that you use them in, and explain why it's underused in these kinds of builds. And tell me why they are perfect. Or if its not perfect. Then tell me why they are good.

Btw Spontaneous Generation and Helm of Possession were also just as unique and both perfect here

Grisbane on Abomintaion of Llanowar

2 months ago

Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip, basically a creature tutor that turns into Gaea's Cradle . Also Westvale Abbey  ^Flip for some sort of Wrath of God effect protection. Heroic Intervention and Fresh Meat can also do this but are not as low to the ground, as they take spots in your hand, a spell slot in your deck and are only good if they are in your hand at the time the Wrath effect hits.

Grisbane on Lathril Blade of the Elves

2 months ago

Also noticed you have 0 answers for a Wrath of God or similar effect. Westvale Abbey  ^Flip is a good option there just as at least a stand in to buy you time to rebuild a board state. It's a land first and a creature if it needs to be, so it's low to the ground. Fresh Meat can also fill this void but since it takes up an important spell slot it is less advised.

OmniDreamer on Forest for the Wicked (Kamahl & Kodama EDH)

2 months ago

Seer's Sundial seems less optimal than Tireless Tracker . How often do you put creatures into play with power 3 or greater? I'm not sure if Elemental Bond is strong in this particular build as is.

4 mana for even 3 3/3 beast tokens is decent. Your current list already contains Arasta of the Endless Web , and I love that it can help start the loop with Ghost Town if you have the right setup. A couple other token generating spells for surprise factor are Ezuri's Predation , Fresh Meat , and Caller of the Claw .

Dawnglade Regent not necessarily a big finisher, but monarch is another nice way to get card draw and the hexproof for your creatures is nice. Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is also nice, but a bit pricey.

The Tireless Tracker clues stick around so they're just there when you have spare mana that you don't want to go to waste which is again better than the one opportunity per landfall with Seer's Sundial and the tracker can get bigger as you sacrifice the clues. I especially like that the tokens trigger Kodama and if the land you put into play can tap for 2 mana you can sac a clue to draw a card which may draw you more land to put into play from Kodama triggers.

Quirion Ranger can help provide a clutch blocker or that one extra mana you need for some spell. I like that it helps you have more land in hand for landfall triggers off of Kodama. Since Ashaya makes your creatures into forests they can tap for mana so they all become targets for Quirion Ranger to untap.

Kamahl’s Will does seem like a decent fit for this deck as a way to go wide and removal. Territorial Scythecat seems okay similar to the running a Managorger Hydra but takes a bit to build up. Shifting Ceratops it has some versatility, but I'm not sure what you want this for in a landfall deck. Primeval Bounty is currently in your list here on tappedout. Branching Evolution not sure your strategy is putting a lot of counters on stuff, more dropping lots of tokens on the fiel. Fertilid synergizes well with Retreat to Kazandu . Garruk's Uprising again I don't think you're usually putting a lot of big creatures into play to benefit from the trigger. Court of Bounty seems better than Colossal Majesty and has an added benefit. Reclamation Sage is great, and I'm also interested in the new 2-drop Masked Vandal since it exiles stuff, and another budget tutor for these low cost utility creatures is Woodland Bellower .

=== other card options ===

• Shaman of Forgotten Ways can be a nice alternate way to win.
• Ancient Greenwarden it's Crucible of Worlds on a body, doubles landfall triggers, and has reach (I like referring to reach as dunking).
• Bramble Sovereign solid value, decent size body, can be used politically.
• Shared Summons solid budget tutor.
• Scapeshift could be game ending if you're getting the right landfall triggers.
• Regal Behemoth monarch and more mana.
• Mana Reflection MOAR MANA!
• Path of Discovery could help dig more land per Kodama trigger if landfall is generating token creatures.
• Blighted Woodland could be better than or just a nice addition to Myriad Landscape
• Greater Good is usually pretty solid card advantage in green especially if someone is about to deal with your commander or big bad or board wipe.
• Fecundity is great card advantage in go wide strategies if your deck runs a hand-full of sac outlets.
• Eldrazi Monument is fun if you can generate enough tokens or animate enough lands, just imagine a bunch of flying elemental forests that are indestructible beating down your opponents.
• Parallel Lives is much pricier than I remember.
• Evolutionary Leap is always a nice kind of card advantage in token decks, but still nice to sac non-tokens if they're about to die anyways.
• Beastmaster Ascension is a nice buff in wide strategies.
• Apex Altisaur could be a useful thing to get with your Magus to wipe out some creatures.
• Force of Vigor another great option for removal.
• Genesis Wave is always a solid way to spend lots of mana.

discipleofgary73 on na na na na, hey hey, goodbye(overwhelming tokens)

2 months ago

Hi! Thanks for the upvote.
A few suggestions:
Overwhelming Stampede rather than Overcome ; Sure your deck has many weenies, but by the time you're gonna want a 5 cmc mass trample for the win, you'll probably have something with larger than 2 power out.
Rule of Law is great for multiplayer, but Curse of Exhaustion might fit if you're gearing the deck for 1v1. If you are going for multiplayer, then Kismet works great at slowing opponents down without impacting yourself.
With the amount of PWs in the deck, Ignite the Beacon and Oath of Ajani might be worthwhile.
Phyrexian Rebirth could be a good board wipe, especially if you have crazy token amounts. Especially funny if you can combo it with Fresh Meat . Also funny with Requiem Angel out - a card worth including on its own, especially if you end up juggling your own tokens for other things.
Hardened Scales , Gavony Township , and Bloodspore Thrinax , could play nice with the +1/+1 subtheme.
Ashnod's Altar is great for utilizing creature tokens to get more things out.
Tireless Tracker might help with card draw later and gets some counters on its own.
The deck comp is pretty balanced, so Traverse the Ulvenwald might be effective. Congregation at Dawn and Chord of Calling are other tutor options if you find that the deck is more successful with particular creatures out.
I love swapping weaker tokens with Emrakul's Evangel (another fun fresh meat combo play). Of course, there is always Divine Visitation as well. It's easy to go overboard on doublers, but I figured I'd give a shout out to Primal Vigor and Second Harvest .
Swords to Plowshares for Pacifism ; might be better in some scenarios and always allows you to target your own creature to get some life out of it if you need to or if you go for the lifegain route.
Speaking of the lifegain route, if you want to go for it, here's some things that could work well: Phantom Nishoba , Wall of Reverence , Cradle of Vitality , Fumigate , Congregate , Blighted Steppe , Blossoming Sands , Gingerbread Cabin , Radiant Fountain , Graypelt Refuge , Kabira Crossroads , High Market , and Phyrexian Processor . The land balance will need to be played with if you want to swap the basics for some of those. Also, most Ajani PWs will work well for a more lifegain focused deck.
Now, when I think token generation, I think artifacts for many things. Thopter Assembly , Genesis Chamber , and Summoning Station come to mind. If you end up with more artifact tokens, you can use them with things like Krark-Clan Ironworks and Kuldotha Forgemaster . Also help with things like Dispatch .
Annnnnd one more suggestion if I haven't overstayed my welcome. Funny things can happen in token decks that put out a lot of creatures when you play The Great Aurora . Usually gives you a much stronger board state than opponents - might want to have a safety Reliquary Tower in for that hand size though!
Sorry if I doubled up on anything you had already considered!

DarkRequiem on Eladamri LoL Elf Forestwalk

2 months ago

There are a few cards making very little sense to me:

1. Primal Amulet - Right now you're running 4 instants & sorceries.

2. Library of Leng - Are you drawing that much? Is your meta that full of discard? Reliquary Tower would be a better fit unless your meta is really heavy on discard.

3. Grinding Station - You're playing few artifacts. I think I counted 13. Might be wrong though. Still, most of those artifacts are stuff you don't want to sac.

4. Tower Above + Bequeathal - Your commander gives shroud to most of your creatures. You don't want to target them 99.9% of the time. Considering your commander and the fact that people will try to get rid of it asap I might go with Myth Unbound.

5. Most of the lands coming into play tapped. Most of them are subpar.

6. Adaptive Automaton - Elves have more than enough lords. No need for a non-green creature.

7. Allosaurus Rider - Although I'm not against this card per se, I think you'll need to play more stuff to make it work. Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape + Kodama's Reach and whichever other mana ramp you can add to the deck.

8. Beast of Burden - There are elves that do this. Heedless One, Jagged-Scar Archers and Drove of Elves (which you're playing) are elves and they get shroud from the commander. The 1st has trample, the 2nd kills fliers and the 3rd has hexproof which is good when your commander is out.

9. Bloom Tender - This card belongs in multicolored decks. Preferably 3 or more colors. You have several elves that tap for G, costing 1 cmc. At 2 cmc you'll prefer Priest of Titania.

10. Fangren Marauder - High CMC, triggers on artifacts destroyed only and does something that comes natural to elves: lifegain. Wellwisher is way better.

11. Llanowar Mentor - You're not playing madness, I don't see anything to abuse cards from your grave... Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury is way better.

12. Mishra's Self-Replicator - Feeds Grinding Station, I know. Still, not that good, I believe.

13. Scattershot Archer - Unless you're seeing lots of x/1 fliers on your meta, this is pointless. Hurricane, Tornado Elemental, Whirlwind and so many other cards are better.

14. Shaman of Spring - Masked Admirers does the same, has the same cmc and is repeatable.

15. Silhana Wayfinder - I'd prefer Wood Elves.

16. Spire Tracer - Meh.

17. Weatherseed Elf - Might work if you find a way of turning your non-green opponents lands into forests. My fav way is Deepwood Elder.

Some cards you might consider:

1. Caller of the Claw and Fresh Meat- Anti-mass removal!

2. Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen, Elvish Champion, Imperious Perfect, Joraga Warcaller, Elvish Clancaller, Canopy Tactician and Elvish Warmaster - Elf lords for all kind of tastes.

3. Glissa Sunseeker and Nullmage Shepherd - Artifact and enchantment removal.

4. Lys Alana Huntmaster - Token generation. Self explanatory, I believe.

5. Marwyn, the Nurturer - Mana acceleration.

6. Wolf-Skull Shaman - Card advantage. Works quite well with Sylvan Library.

ellie-is on Ellie's Saprolings

6 months ago

Thank you both for the suggestions!

I'll think about them and playtest a couple to see how I feel. Heroic Intervention I totally want to have on my sideboard, just wish the price would go down a little haha. Fungal Rebirth and Fungal Plots I feel have the issue of me not having enough nontoken creatures for it to be worth it. Though a card I really like for post-wipe recovery (but don't run it anymore as it's too narrow) is Fresh Meat.