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Creature — Elf Druid
Level up (: Put a level counter on this. Level up only as a sorcery.) [1/1]
Level 1-4 Tap: Add to your mana pool. [1/2]
Level 5+ Elves you control have "symbol:Tap Add to your mana pool." [1/4]
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Joraga Treespeaker Discussion
3 days ago
Wild Research has a color identity, and is not legal for your deck.
The only way I can think of to attach lots of auras to Uril at the same time is to play Retether, Open the Vaults, or Replenish while you have Uril out and a lot of auras in the graveyard already. Either that or play Primal Surge and hope you don't hit a non-permanent. Up to you whether you think either of those are a good idea.
The ONLY ways for you to deal infect damage with Uril in Naya colors are Grafted Exoskeleton and Triumph of the Hordes. There are no other cards that grant infect to a creature outside of blue and black.
Symmetrical card draw is very bad in EDH, since it just gives people more gas to answer you or win the game ahead of you. Font of Mythos, Horn of Greed, Howling Mine, Omen Machine, Temple Bell, and Rites of Flourishing should all be cut. Wheel of Fortune and Reforge the Soul are usually better because you can wait to cast them until you have no hand and your opponents have lots of cards, but you actually have better options in green, so I'd recommend cutting at least Reforge.
Replace with the following: Sram, Senior Edificer, Kor Spiritdancer, Rishkar's Expertise, Sage's Reverie, Soul's Majesty, Abzan Beastmaster, Mesa Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, and Eidolon of Blossoms (maybe).
You also NEED better ramp. Tithe, Cultivate, Journey of Discovery, Elfhame Sanctuary, and Kodama's Reach are all sub-par and should be cut. 41 lands is also WAY too high. You'll be able to ramp much more consistantly if you cut that down. You can go down to 35 lands without a problem, and then after that you can cut one land for every 0 CMC mana rock you add to the deck. (Don't worry about Exploration, Burgeoning, and Oracle of Mul Daya being less effective. The extra draw factor will offset that. I would probably cut Azuza though, since she doesn't give you much if you aren't flooded with land.) Out of your lands, Jungle Shrine, Maze of Ith, Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, and Temple of the False God are all kind of bad and could be cut. Some better utility lands would be Kessig Wolf Run and Hall of the Bandit Lord.
All of the following are better ramp than you have: Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Lotus Bloom, Ancient Tomb, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Coalition Relic, Boros Signet, Selesnya Signet, Gruul Signet, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Dryad Arbor (tutored off of Green Sun's Zenith, Harrow, Crop Rotation (into Ancient Tomb), Gemstone Caverns, Chromatic Lantern (maybe), Joraga Treespeaker (maybe), Skyshroud Claim (maybe), Trace of Abundance (maybe), Fertile Ground (maybe), Utopia Sprawl (maybe), and Wild Growth (maybe). You may also want to consider Herald of the Pantheon or Hero of Iroas to reduce the cost of your spells.
Now, on to the auras. You have a ton of auras that don't really do... anything? I get that you want to buff Uril as much as possible, but EDH is format of card advantage, and you really shouldn't be playing cards that just read, "your commander gets +2/+2."
I would cut all of the following Abzan Runemark, Angelic Destiny (this really doesn't give you much for 4 mana), Asha's Favor, Burrowing, Call To Serve, Cave Sense, Crown of Awe, Dust Corona, Eternal Warrior, Griffin Guide, Gryff's Boon, Inviolability (He already going to be the biggest thing around, why do you need this?), Murder Investigation (You have no support for these tokens.), Nimbus Wings, Serra's Embrace, Triclopean Sight, Vigilance, and Vow of Duty.
And here's what I recommend in their place:
Extra protection for your commander: Shielded by Faith, Spider Umbra, Hyena Umbra, Felidar Umbra, Bear Umbra, and Flickerform. (Speaking of protection, Tajuru Preserver, Grand Abolisher, Vexing Shusher, Gaea's Herald, and Sigarda, Host of Herons are all good ways to make sure Uril can't be messed with.)
Also put in Spirit Loop. It's cheap and comes back if Uril leaves play somehow.
Other miscellaneous stuff:
Heliod's Pilgrim, Open the Armory, and Plea for Guidance are other tutors you could include. Open the Armory also grabs Grafted Exoskeleton and Helm of the Gods if you put them in, so I'd recommend it.
Nomad Mythmaker might make a useful recovery tool.
Mayael's Aria buffs Uril, gains you life, and can straight up win the game for you, nuff said.
If you can find the space, you could really use better board control to deal with problem permanents. Here are some good removal spells in your colors: Swords to Plowshares, Beast Within, Chaos Warp, Oblation, Krosan Grip, Oblivion Ring, Qasali Pridemage, Return to Dust, Hull Breach, Winds of Rath, Chandra's Ignition, Austere Command, and Wrath of God.
And that's all I can think of at the moment. Good luck.
3 weeks ago
first wave of cuts: Unbridled Growth does literally nothing in mono-green, Prophetic Prism same reason, Karametra's Favor don't need. also anything that is giving you energy you dont need it. unless you have some pay off for energy there is no point in running those
things to add (this is a long list so obviously just pick things up as you can. also not all of this will fit in but this is all good stuff):Arbor Elf, Allosaurus Rider, Birchlore Rangers, Bow of Nylea, Cultivate, Devoted Druid, Drove of Elves, Druid of the Cowl, Eladamri, Lord of Leaves, Elvish Archdruid, Elvish Champion, Elvish Harbinger, Elvish Mystic, Elvish Promenade, Elvish Vanguard, Everglove Courier, Explosive Vegetation, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fyndhorn Elder, Gaea's Herald, Gladehart Cavalry, Glissa Sunseeker, Greatbow Doyen, Green Sun's Zenith, Greenweaver Druid, Gyre Sage, Heritage Druid, Harmonize, Hunting Triad, Immaculate Magistrate, Imperious Perfect, Joraga Treespeaker, Joraga Warcaller, Llanowar Elves, Llanowar Mentor, Lys Alana Bowmaster, Lys Alana Huntmaster, Masked Admirers, Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, Nissa's Pilgrimage, Norwood Priestess, Nullmage Shepherd, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Priest of Titania, Realm Seekers, Reclamation Sage, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary, Tajuru Preserver, Talara's Battalion, terrastodon, Thornweald Archer, Titania's Chosen, Viridian Shaman, Wellwisher, Wildslayer Elves, Winnower Patrol, Wirewood Elf, Wren's Run Packmaster, Yeva, Nature's Herald
(takes giant breath)
yeah.. its a lot of stuff. I got a little carried away.. also this is not a budgeted list of suggestions. you will need some of the $3-10 cards to make elves a serious threat.
1 month ago
Instill Energy, this enchantment is underrated and isn't seen very often as usually it isn't necessarily the best choice. However, giving Selvala haste and being able to untap her once for free on your turn = all the mana. Plus late game a Primordial Hydra that you can attack with, then untap, is great.
1 month ago
Nature's Lore, Assassinate, Bone Splinters, Death Stroke, Despise, Distress, Explore, Gruesome Discovery, Journey of Discovery, Mind Rot, Appetite for the Unnatural, Doom Blade, Druid's Deliverance, Gilt-Leaf Ambush, Naturalize, Seedling Charm, Spring Cleaning, Strength in Numbers, Vitalize, Prowess of the Fair, Wayfarer's Bauble, Deadbridge Shaman, Silhana Starfletcher can all be cut in my opinion. These cards are all low impact or just a bit eh, compared to what you can do.
Nullmage Shepherd lets to turn a swarm of tokens into repeatable removal.
If you want to go in hard on tokens, you also have Primal Vigor as another token doubler, Second Harvest as a single use doubler, Sylvan Offering as a massive token producer/political card you can take advantage of especially. Voice of the Woods turns tokens into yet more tokens.
Damnable Pact is a good draw x spell, which can be political, or can be used to burn someone to death. Weird Harvest is an interesting political option, that can let you win on the spot with enough ramp.
1 month ago
SageOfStone: Sorry it took me so long to respond, I've been meaning to get back to you but I was wiped out all weekend and then today has been hectic. But I wanted to properly address your comment - you've given me a lot of awesoem feedback and points to ponder.
As for your individual card comments:
I hear what you're saying about the Joraga Treespeaker. I think it can be a bit slow, but it has potential. I added it sonce I've upped my elf count (primarily for Priest of Titania) - I want to give it the acid test and I'll see how it holds out.
While Mindbreak Trap isn't as powerful anymore, the fact that it exiles rather than counters is a huge plus for me. I'm typically playing against big eldrazi (one of the main decks I play against is a Captain Sisay deck) and being able to exile them so they don't reshuffle is huge. Notto mention, it's one of the few counterspells I have that shuts down a Dragonlord Dromoka (again, a card I see often).
I've been o nthe fence about Glen Elendra Archmage for a while now. While it's really good, I often have the problem that 4 mana to play it plus 2 mana free for countering often leaves me tapped out otherwise. I prefer having options, plus having that bluff can be nice sometimes.
I used to run Prophet of Kruphix and found that it pulled a lot of aggro. My concern is that Seedborn Muse would have the same effect and that the benefit it would bring wouldn't be enough to offset that. Plus I owuld personally prefer to run more ramp rather than an untap effect as onc eyou have Damia mana you're generally pretty good.
I actually used to run Jace, the Mind Sculptor, but cut it for Baleful Strix. I found that with a small (and weak) creature base, people would just swing into Jace if they had nothing better to do. Baleful Strix on the other hand has the opposite effect, plus it can act as a backup Rune-Scarred Demon in combo.
Again, I used to run Chord of Calling back in the day when thedeck was a lot more creature heavy. Becuase most of the creatures in the deck now are either mana dorks or need multiple creatures to combo, I ended up cutting it as it became less and less useful.
Just like Chord and Jace, I also ran Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for a bit. The thing I noticed with him though is that because i was one of the heaviest control decks in the meta, I usually didin't need him as I had enough counterspells to resolve my combo. He might make a second appearance i nthe deck if I start coming up against more control decks though.
Sower of Temptation is interesting. I think the biggest interaction I like with it is that you can bounce it with Riptide Laboratory however it feels ab it niche in the curent build. I will add it to the maybe board though, because it's an interesting idea.
Again, I used to run Mind Twist a long time ago. It is pretty dirty, however I've found that in multiplayer it's not anywhere near as powerful as in 1v1. If this was a due lcommander list, I would be running it in a heartbeat however here I'm focusing more on reactive control rather than proactive.
Honestly, I've never felt the compulsion ot run Trinket Mage in a deck. I run him in a prototype deck however that deck is somewhere in the order of $4K and he has a lot of targets. Here, I find him underwhelming. Baleful strix is actually really good as it acts a deterent for people to attack me. PLus hte flying blocker is nice.
Very long ago I made toe conscious choice to run Archaeomancer over Snapcaster Mage. This was because I liked the non-exiling nature of Archaeomancer, making it work better in combo. I would consder running snappy alongside, but not instead of. I run Noxious Revival in my Saffi deck and can vouch for it, however I don't know if I need it as I'm not a storm combo deck. Yawgmoth's Will is one of those cards I've been on the fence about runnign for a long time. It will probably see its way into the edck eventually. I don't like Regrowth here though for the same reason as revival. I don't need that much 1/1 recursion.
Unfortunately my meta is quite heavy on creatures attacking, so I think Ad Nauseam is out. I have another combo deck I would like to test it in (that super expesive prototype deck) but I think it's too heavy here.
I hear what you're saying about stroke/blue sun's. The benefit of the USZ combo thoug his that technically none of the peices ever have to hit the graveyard and especially with these new bibcycle lands coming out and with only needing 1 more fetch, the mana base of the deck is overall pretty solid.
I think there are a few cards here that really should make their way into the deck. Long term I think I will try to add a Cavern of Souls (plus the new art is beautiful) alnog with Yawgmoth's Will and potentially a Snapcaster Mage (alongside Archaeomancer). There are a few others like Sower of Temptation which are interesting as well. I'll definitely give them some thought.
Thank you again for your comment and the upvote. It's always good to get a fresh perspective on the deck and especially from someone who has been playing a bit more combo focused deck, it provides me with some good ideas which I may not have seen originally coming from a control point of view.
1 month ago
Also, you could try Joraga Treespeaker.
on ELF STORM
1 month ago
If you want a decent aggro creature to have a plan B, Ezuri, Renegade Leader is your dude.
Honestly, I'm not sure if this is better than normal Elves, but sure is cool! I would say add Grapeshot for a true storm deck, but that'd need a little different setup (Cloudstone Curio is your best friend).
Hope that helps!
1 month ago
supertoasterr I ran a good portion of these earlier in my decks history and they were all terrible (Except for the Ravages and I never tried Mindcensor). This is a combo deck that has a lot of creatures. It never attacks at any given point in the game save maybe here or there if someone is open and we are giving him/her a hard time. Craterhoof Behemoth is absolutely awful to draw in this deck and every time I did draw it all it did was sit in my hand and waste a spot in my deck the card is great if your goal is to swarm the board and make an army of dudes but that is not the purpose of my deck at all. Joraga Treespeaker doesn't do anything for me in the early game when I need that mana and while she replaces herself after you pay mana into her she is an easy to kill target and a waste of my mana's resources to level her up. Beast Within is a great card but when it comes to justifiable mana in a deck that aims to win T3-T5 it is a wasted slot that could be used to further my game plan not to mention that I run cards that tax my non-creature spells along with my opponents and if I run too many of them it just hurts me in the long run. Plus in cEDH giving someone a 3/3 to hit me with is not fun. I can certainly consider Aven Mindcensor but I don't feel like I need another Armageddon in here.