Diseased Vermin

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Diseased Vermin

Creature — Rat

Whenever Diseased Vermin deals combat damage to a player, put an infection counter on it.

At the beginning of your upkeep, Diseased Vermin deals X damage to target opponent previously dealt damage by it, where X is the number of infection counters on it.

channelfireball12345 on Cardinal Copia's RATS!

3 years ago

Obvious flavor aside, Crypt Rats seems like a bit of a non-bo with most of your deck, given its critical mass of fragile weenies. I'd probably expect it to set you back further than it would your opponents on average. How about Disease Carriers, my personal recommendation, or even Diseased Vermin as potential replacements?

Epicurus on Wait, what type of counter?!

4 years ago

Really fun build, and deliciously quirky!

A few serious card suggestions:

And a few fun card suggestions:

Also, I think it would be fun to use lands with depletion counters like Hickory Woodlot, or storage counter artifacts like Blue Mana Battery.

Cheers!

qwikster on The Plague Comes Out At Night

4 years ago

Okay I'll be honest, I haven't looked too in depth because it's past my bedtime but I'm keeping myself awake with deck scrolling, BUT when I see rat tribal I have to check it out.

Just off the cuff, Diseased Vermin (old card, I would not blame you for not knowing it or understanding that block of text) but with your commander giving him intimidate, all you have to do is swing at a nonblack playing player and get a hit. Keep in mind it doesn't say poison counter (FROM infect) it's an INFECT counter that's totally different. Get some cheap shots in with cheap intimation tricks and then you just watch their life tick away every upkeep.

Second, Swarmyard probably to protect the big baddies like marrow or ink eyes.

Again, haven't gone through your entire deck but it looks really cool so far! Kind of a combination of a tax deck I have and my rat deck! Very cool and flavorful!

Kogarashi on lose life to win

5 years ago

You're off to a decent start, I'd say. Your curve looks good, though you're mana base is a bit weak at the moment (you should be running about 40 land for consistency). Some commentary as I took notes:

Heliod, God of the Sun doesn't seem to fit with the overall theme of the deck. You'd be better off with a card that will give you lifelink creatures or something, to help offset the life-loss from your various effects. Whip of Erebos would be my pick for this deck.

Blood Tribute is going to want more vampires, which are kind of slim in your deck at the moment.

Brainspoil is...poor removal. I would remove it. Killing Wave , on the other hand, is a good choice for sweep, and Remorseless Punishment and Temporal Extortion are nice. I like Near-Death Experience as an alternate win-con, but Path of Bravery is going to hamper that, especially since you don't appear to have super-consistent lifegain.

You have...two? infect cards. I would remove them since infect is really an alternate win-con that you aren't geared toward. Diseased Vermin might make for an alternate rat if you must have a rat, especially if you can give it evasion somehow, and it works with lifelink. It's not a strong pick for the deck, though.

Knight-Captain of Eos wants more soldiers. There are quite a few vampire soldiers, and some of them would work well in this deck. Vicious Conquistador is one that works with your theme.

Seekers' Squire doesn't really seem to fit any of your themes.

Wall of Shards short-circuits your life-drain by giving increasingly large amounts of life to opponents. You don't need it. I would also skip the Hyena Umbra and Hatred .

As for further suggestions, things with Extort are good. There's always the Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond combo, which can also use Vizkopa Guildmage in place of Sanguine Bond.

Other suggestions:

Ones that work somewhat with the life drain: Defiant Bloodlord , Retreat to Hagra , Thrull Parasite , Bontu's Monument , Kambal, Consul of Allocation , Underworld Coinsmith (this would be a reason to keep Heliod, actually), Zulaport Cutthroat , and maybe Vizkopa Confessor

Others that pay life or give you life somehow: Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Chainer, Dementia Master , Cruel Sadist , Phyrexian Reclamation , Vona, Butcher of Magan , and Elenda, the Dusk Rose (for working with your creatures dying).

All of this, of course, is subject to what you're willing to buy, and you don't have to listen to anything I say. It's your deck, after all.

MitchZesty on A Group of Rats is Called a Mischief

6 years ago

You can cut out Cascading Cataracts for Diseased Vermin. You've already got two fetches for Swamps and Cascading Cataracts is almost completely useless in a mono-colored deck.

I'd also highly recommend some more non-basics like Lake of the Dead, Wasteland, Strip Mine, Peat Bog, Barren Moor, Everglades, Bojuka Bog, Volrath's Stronghold, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, and Cabal Coffers.

Making-a-new-account-Hopefully-I-can-get-my-old-Username on Pardon My Pets

6 years ago

Awesome! With the coise of tribe, you've ventured straight into Favourite Tow, population: me :D

I'd consider the following, for reasons;

Ogre Slumlord: tokens and deahtouch galore!

Diseased Vermin: if you can get through with it just a few times, the opponent is on a clock!

Typhoid Rats: good early blocking, or for pushing ninjutsu through.

Vampiric Link+ a source of regeneration turns Crypt Rats into a reusable, life-stockpiling sweeper! Check my deck Death comes gnawing for an in depth description :)

Lastly, if you have waaaaay too much money: Marrow-Gnawer and Swarmyard, forobvious reasons.

Stay frosty, dude!

Making-a-new-account-Hopefully-I-can-get-my-old-Username on

7 years ago

It's a tad expensive, but trust you me: Diseased Vermin is Soooo much fun! Also: If you go with marrow-gnawer he needs a queen: Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni is beautiful and all that deathtouch is gonna have her ninjutsu be a near sure-hit. If you feel like it, I have a rat deck - that I'm mighty proud of - that you could steal a gander at: Death comes gnawing may the Force be with you :)

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