Artifact Creature — Gnome
Sacrifice Bottle Gnomes: You gain 3 life.
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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Uncommon|
|Tempest Remastered (TPR)||Common|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Jace vs. Chandra (DD2)||Uncommon|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Bottle Gnomes occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Bottle Gnomes Discussion
1 month ago
Bottle Gnomes may only gain you life but they at least can sac themselves at no cost and count as historic for the purposes of triggering your commander's ability.
Felidar Cub gives a little more removal to recur.
Condemn is a bit conditional but at least an option for some instant speed removal that can deal with indestructible creatures.
Checked Card Kingdom and they have a fair number of printings of Sun Titan for under $3, the Commander 2019 version is listed at $1.99. Having a couple of things that are a little beefier wouldn't be a bad idea and it fits the theme of the deck.
I second adding a anthem or two to be able to punch through if/when needed.
3 months ago
Nice list, should be fun for casual play. I'd look at mechanics like morbid Tragic Slip , Scavenge Slitherhead , unearth Extractor Demon , and 'classic' sacrifice effect creatures like Spore Frog or Bottle Gnomes / Brindle Boar . Stag is currently your only way to deal with flying creatures, so something like Aerie Ouphes would likely help.
Past that, relax and build something to be fun with your playgroup. Good casual games aren't about consistancy (uneless its consistant fun), they are about creating fun memories and flashing in Gluttonous Slime in response to living end.
6 months ago
1 year ago
I honestly tend to find Bottle Gnomes pretty relevant, as I often lose a lot of life, but I suppose I'm playing enough tutors now to where I can just grab Zulaport Cutthroat or something if that's really such a concern--I suppose I can cut him, though I will miss him.
I'm still kinda on edge about cutting Black Market --my meta is still fairly casual, but I have, in fact, won before with Exsanguinate thanks to all the mana from Black Market against a fairly competitive (but by no means optimized) Prossh, Skyraider of Kher deck (and some other peeps). I might find something else to cut for Pitiless Plunderer , but I'd rather not have to choose between both of them. (Also, something worth considering is that Black Market is harder to remove than Pitiless Plunderer , though they'd need exile effects or something in any case).
As for Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood , getting 10 mana isn't a problem for me, but I get what you're saying--it's not exactly the fastest combo available, and my deck probably doesn't slow the game down enough to make it competitively viable. All the same, there's just not that many better mono-black combos.
As for running more tutors and stax effects, well, for one, I actually still want this list to be playable in my meta (it's approaching a point where it's just too cancerous relatively to what the majority of everyone else is playing, believe it or not), so adding Trinisphere and Static Orb and the like would be very unsubtle and super cutthroat (though, yes, that's exactly what would make the deck more competitive, I understand that). Secondly, the list is getting pretty tight, yet again, so I'd probably have to cut some Shirei synergy for that sort of thing, which would probably be worth it, but would make me feel that much more soulless, honestly. Can never seem to strike that balance between not playing a whole bunch of staples and having a synergetic build...
Thirdly, while they'd absolutely be worth it, I'm not playing more tutors simply due to budget considerations. I know that might sound pretty laughable considering the deck costs $830 dollars, but it's the only list I have that I own in paper (well, most of it--waiting for more cards to arrive, as I keep cutting stuff), but I've been building it up over the course of 3-4 years. Budget is no object in cEDH, I know, but it is for me--the most expensive card in the deck is about $75. Spending $100 on a card isn't something I really want to do. I might find something to cut for Cruel Tutor , though (bad as it is).
As it stands, I think Liliana's Shade and Bottle Gnomes are out and Skittering Surveyor and Scroll Rack are in. A marginal improvement--still not good enough, though, you're right. If only I could run Land Tax + Scroll Rack ...
(Oh, and, on a completely unrelated note, this might already be a thing, but I was wondering if anyone had figured out a way to combo out with Timestream Navigator in a Prime Speaker Vannifar list. All you'd need is a 1-drop that recurs itself to either your hand or the battlefield, and, so long as you had enough mana and the city's blessing, you could take infinite turns. That might actually be a viable combo in cEDH).
1 year ago
NoOneOfConsequence shirei is one of the best recursion engines (so if you're beating a dead horse, at least we can expect it from a Shirei player). He provides significant advantage, provided you play an efficient & synergistic gameplan.
Liliana's Shade is 4 mana to tutor for a swamp every turn. Neat, but still it's 4 mana - unless you're going balls to the wall on 28-30 lands, I can't see how this is great for you, as it's an inefficient Skittering Surveyor . You have no other Swamp cards that I can see, therefore no reason to actually run the card in place of a more efficient version.
Black Market is great turn by turn, but pound for pound it's worse than Pitiless Plunderer , as with plunderer you make mana the same turn. Black market requires you to wait an entire turn-cycle before it does anything - and in those 3 turns you're not holding up mana to respond to all of your opponent's threats - basically gambling with the hope of a payoff on your turn.
Sanguine Bond & Exquisite Blood together are 10 mana to win. Flash-hulk is 2 mana. Exsanguinate & Torment of Hailfire are at least 15 each & they don't certify a win as you have no way to make unbounded mana.
Leyline of the Void is unavoidable in this build, as your win con is not coming out until late game, and any hulk deck will win first.
It's admirable that you've found so many creatures that synergise with shirei to hurt your opponents turn by turn. But here, a lot of these are redundant. In a stax deck you need many more ways to hurt your opponent decks. Including Trinisphere , Sphere of Resistance , Winter Orb , would all help your gameplan.
You could use Praetor's Grasp - as it's likely to find a card that will actually win you the game & it's a stax piece.
There are a lot of issues with your list - those t3 decks are usually decks that are unproven (imo). Your shirei deck still needs a lot of refinement for tier 3 to Deem Worthy .
I could go on about many of the other options in your Shirei build, but maybe you should re-read the comments section. I made sure to put a healthy set of options in there for you to consider several days ago.
I'd recommend doing some solid research into the cEDH meta and how cutthroat every design decision needs to be. I think there's a discord called playEDH, or look for some cEDH decks to test against. You'll find out very fast that your shirei build may be good in some metas, but in cEDH it is not enough.
1 year ago
Nice idea, but pretty difficult to build on budget.
You stated, you need ideas for your sideboard:
Maybe something to gain life to improve your game against burn decks. Budget ways I'm thinking of maybe Bottle Gnomes or Brindle Boar or even Dragon's Claw. Don't know, what you can get your hands on.
If possible, add some creatures with a nice value of cost to power/toughness, thus simply providing a second game plan to switch to, if your reanimation somehow is disabled or won't work for other reasons. I'm afraid you'll have to find those creatures yourself, for I have no idea what your budget's top level is nor what you allready got at home.
If you got any space left in your board, try to include answers to threats appeariing in your local metagame. Your playgroup/meta is full of decks running a horde of small and fast creatures? Try finding spells that kill of most/all of them at once (I'm thinking of things like Pyroclasm, Drown in Sorrow, Golden Demise and so on). Your meta features combo decks? Look for simple answers to break the combo or prevent it from even happening (=> most likely some discard spells like Duress).
I hope I provided some useful ideas.
2 years ago
Yes, this works. Grave Pact triggers when Bottle Gnomes is put into the graveyard, and your opponents sacrifice a creature as the trigger from Grave Pact resolves. This triggers Glissa, the Traitor. Since Bottle Gnomes is in your graveyard, you're allowed to target it.
2 years ago
I sacrifice Bottle Gnomes with Glissa, the Traitor and gravepact. This triggers Glissa and gravepact and bottle gnomes goes to the graveyard. Could I use one of the glissa triggers to bring bottle gnomes back to hand?