Krav, the Unredeemed

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Battlebond (BBD) Rare

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Krav, the Unredeemed

Legendary Creature — Demon

Partner with Regna, the Redeemer (When this creature enters the battlefield, target player may put Regna into their hand from their library, then shuffle.)

, Sacrifice X creatures: Target player draws X cards and gains X life. Put X +1/+1 counters on Krav, the Unredeemed.

Krav, the Unredeemed Discussion

Flesh_Addict_ on 2: Nel Toths Forbidden Necromancy

3 days ago

Hey semsandberg,

Ramp is never an issue, it looks like it should be but tutoring out Sakura-Tribe Elder , Yavimaya Elder or Solemn Simulacrum will get you the endless mana nearly each turn due to our great leader Meren of Clan Nel Toth .

Additionally, having eldrazi scions being created by Awakening Zone and From Beyond tends to give me the edge to have a bit more mana, but I tend to usually just use them as a sac outlets due to the mana flood in nearly every game.

As for the suggestions: Pattern of Rebirth is an amazing card which I used before! but by the time I enchant one of my creatures with this, someone always removes it before it gets attached or exiles it before I can sac it or kill it, the card Journey to Eternity  Flip is what replaced it. It may not tutor a creature out but boy does it sure allow for more recursion.

Songs of the Damned is risky, when everyone plays gravehate you may be expecting a dead card in hand for a quite a while, never liked it, never will.

Blasting Station was also in the deck, but without any infinite combos and relying on this as a sac outlet was not so great, it ended up being removed for Krav, the Unredeemed which happened to be a greater sac outlet, card draw engine as well as a life gain mechanism.

And the second vampiric tutor has been removed, it was placed there by accident as I got an altered art version and failed to see I didnt remove it.

Thank you so much for your suggestions! If you have anything else please don't hesitate to comment!

goldlion on Oloro Help

4 days ago

Reasons for the two questions above:

If you are winning 1/4 games, you are on par with the rest of the decks in your meta :). Either way though, tuning our decks is part of the fun and will make our playgroup improve as well.

As for the other question, for me the cards that "aren't bad", but aren't great most of time, are the signals for weak links. Either I take those out in favour of cards that synergize, increase card advantage or make a pathway to, and support, my win condition... Or, if they are cards I want to focus on, I keep them in and remove others in place of cards that'll make the "aren't bad" cards great.. Of course it all depends :).


I admit, I do not have much experience with STAXish or Control, and I'm still low on the learning curve. I do have some thoughts to share that I think can help :). I like to find a balance between flavour and function, cards that synergize and have the same "feel" while helping achieve more focus. The focus is a big step for a deck to take to get more wins. Coming up with some clear pathways to your wincons is important.

If you don't have the $ to pickup the Demonic Tutor , Idyllic Tutor and Enlightened Tutor s, there are options like Insidious Dreams . I always look at scryfall.com for transmute cards that could work as well. I just saw Brainspoil , it would be cheaper to activate than Diabolic Tutor . You would pay 3, discard it and go for any card that's 5 cmc, with special thought to either piece of your wincon. It'd also offer another removal in a pinch, or if your wincon is in hand.

If the Blood-Bond combo is your win-con right now, I'd recommend adding in recursion to get them back if they're destroyed. Argivian Find for example. Monk Idealist is a good option if you want to be more creature based. Tragic Poet is slightly slower but lower cmc. Dawn to Dusk costs a little more but pulls double duty as enchantment removal. Open the Vaults could get them both on the battlefield if each are in the yard, and for cheaper than casting both from your hand - you could make getting them from your library to your yard and casting this one pathway to your wincon. I've heard of someone using Insidious Dreams to put combo cards on top of their library, then using something to mill themselves (blue is good at this) and casting an Open the Vaults type spell. Either way you want to go, it'd be worth having at least two recursion spells to support your win-con.

If you add that enchantment recursion, a Sunbond might work to good effect, synergizing with both your lifegain and counters, but also allowing you to beef up a creature for a big strike. Spirit Loop is fantastic on big strikers, if you find your getting one in 75-80% of games. It doubles up with lifelink. Underworld Coinsmith could be a nice flavour/function addition if you start leaning into the enchantment side a little more. Basilisk Collar is a great value card giving some big creature deathtouch as one more disincentive for attacking you, while giving you another tool for lifegain when it's time to go on the attack. Imagine these on Defiant Bloodlord ?!

Worn Powerstone could be a good addition to your mana-base, something the deck might need to be able to keep responding. Smothering Tithe is one that’s off flavour but could be what you need to help ramp.

As Kaigz recommended, Dawn of Hope would go well and give you good card draw.

Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer could be a nice little combo in this deck - but they both do great as solo includes. I have Krav in a deck that has the colours for Regna, but I already make plenty of tokens. In this deck, you don't have as many creatures to sacrifice to Krav, and if Regna was removed he'd be less useful for you. However, I'd say Regna might be useful? If you had a few more token generators, they'd be a great addition. Casting a creature and getting another to your hand is pretty big value in itself, but with tokens Krav is fantastic value while also making a big creature. I have him in my life leaching Ghave deck

Purity seems sweet. Do you have much red in your meta, enough to make this worth the slot and cmc? if so... Auriok Champion could swapped in for Soul's Attendant , 1 more, it has protection from red making it not just immune to red spells, but an invincible blocker against any creatures (meta dependent).

Imp's Mischief is a powerful little "counterspell" that isn't a counterspell and it goes into the bucket of cards the teach people not to target you... This style of deck is a good place to take that strategy that punishes people for coming at you. Deathtouch and instant speed removals help with that as well.

Suffer the Past is a fun flavour one I like especially because there's some graveyard based decks in my meta. It does graveyard removal while also acting as a Exsanguinate .

Batwing Brume is a cheap$ fog for your colours that also fits the flavour.

Obzedat?


Here's some thoughts on cards to take out - of course this is from online review and opinion, I don't have the gameplay experience you have.

Do you regularly have plenty of cards in hand to make the of Venser's Journal worth it?

Pontiff of Blight I don't think there's good value between his cost and what he offers you. There's cards that'd do far more for you.

I THINK cards like Night Terrors are better for much faster and competitive metas where you will know who is going to most likely be able to stop you from comboing off. Or in 1v1 games. I haven't found a place for those cards in semi-competitive group metas yet, and definitely wouldn't guess to see it fulfilling the cardslot's deserved value. It's a 1for1 trade off leaving you and the person you targeted one step behind your other opponents in card advantage. I DO see the times it could be fantastic, but it's one of those corner-case cards in the multiplayer slower style of EDH.

I feel like with the slow lifegain you have, I'd take Aetherflux Reservoir out until you consistently, after many, many games, find yourself getting to 90-100 life. I understand it to be mainly good in Storm or in a deck with more explosive life gain, like Firesong and Sunspeaker , or one that uses lifelink or Spirit Loop on a giant voltron commander. I might, if this were my deck, take it out for cards that make your deck tick a little more, just for now. Then, if you are gaining plenty of life (multiples of 50) over many games or created strong pathways to get Exquisite Blood onto the battlefield, you will by then see what is worth taking out for this. Exquisite Blood and the Reservoir are pretty their own Blood-Bond combo, but you need to make sure you have that 55 or more life consistently.

Felidar Sovereign ... Personal opinion alert .... When I first got back into magic I was so excited to pull this in a booster pack... I personally dont enjoy these alternate wincons and feel there's cards that could fill this slot that'd synergize with other cards for more diverse interactions and make the deck far more interesting. But that's just me :)

Lord_Loss931 on Greasy Uncle Karlov (Lifegain)

6 days ago

Ripwater Thanks man! Can't wait till I'm home and can start working in this deck and make some of these changes! Super excited about them, and appreciate the suggestions as well and suggested cuts as I always find that's the hardest.

I'll definitely look into the swords as I've always wanted them but honestly didn't know about Eight-and-a-Half-Tails ! So thanks

And yup Archangel of Thune would be wicked just is always sold out at my LGS and I like to buy from them as much as possible. I live in a smaller city so cards don't come in to fast.

As for cuts, Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer I agree 100%. Was testing them out since I packed them but they are to expensive. Rhox Faithmender was another experiment and honestly haven't tried him out yet but included him to help win cons like Test of Endurance but will be cut if I don't ever see him do work. Again I didn't know of Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip but will consider it though I do like the protection of Erebos, God of the Dead and don't often run into copy or steal effects in my play circles. Again in my circles there are alot of creatures (and not enough removal XD) and I have won many games clearing with Fumigate and just being at a ridiculous life total either with Atherflux Reservoir or Test of Endurance .

And yeah will do man! Thanks!

crabclaw on Teysa Karlov (I NEED HELP)

1 week ago

Some of these cuts below are for efficiency to reign in your cmc, others because there are better cards. Are you looking to make a lifegain-matters deck or a tokens/aristocrat deck? You have a ton of lifegain sources that situationally come into play.

Consider cutting some of the permanent-based sources of card draw for things like Night's Whisper or Sign in Blood . Harvester of Souls is great, especially with Teysa on the board, but it costs 6 mana and can potentially draw you into nothing. Or it may give underwhelming returns for the amount of mana you have to pay into it.

Cuts --

Impassioned Orator

Dutiful Attendant

Orzhov Cluestone and/or Orzhov Locket . Replace with Commander's Sphere

Debt to the Deathless

Exquisite Blood

Sanguine Bond

Open the Graves --> maybe consider Field of Souls . 1 cmc less, and flying is almost always relevant.

Requiem Angel --> I know the combo with Divine Visitation , but that's an 11 mana combo that still needs other cards for any sort of payoff.

Regna, the Redeemer --> Could still leave Krav, the Unredeemed in.

Butcher of Malakir .

Ripwater on Greasy Uncle Karlov (Lifegain)

1 week ago

Hey Lord_Loss931,

I'm happy my tips help, I can understand that some of the swords are harder to get a hold off, especially the expensive ones. But do understand that there are more ways of giving Karlov evasion. Did you know the card Eight-and-a-Half-Tails ? I think you can pick it up for around 2 euro's or something and is not a highly played card, but it will perform well for Karlov.

You really gonna like Smothering Tithe it will give you a retarded amount of mana :-)

And if your LGS has Archangel of Thune that would also be one of the first cards I would pick up, since it's an alternate win con.

Cards that I would cut I think:

  • Rhox Faithmender He doesn't provide 2 triggers, just more lifegain. And thats not what we are after.
  • Krav, the Unredeemed / Regna, the Redeemer They look good on paper, but cost an insane amount of mana. And lets face it you don't really run a lot of token generators other than Regna, to make Krav value. I've runned Regna without Krav for quite some time, but often I found that the 2 warriors I just didnt care for and the 6 mana for a 4/4 flyer is just a bit underwhelming.
  • Erebos, God of the Dead Would swap him for Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip. He is easily copied or taken over and that will impose an insane threath to your deck.
  • Fumigate replace that one with Wrath of God / Damnation since you will probably whipe Karlov as well and that one mana can make a difference between whiping the board and passing the turn or whiping the board and rebuilding.
  • Overall I went for a more active approach of gaining life. So whenever something enters or when I do something, so cards like I said before Contemplation effect or Soul's Attendant . And I have cut all of the "Gain 1 life in your upkeep"effects in my deck, like Nyx-Fleece Ram , I really found those to slow and triggering only once to little impact. I think if you are looking for more consistency thats where to start. You really should look towards your support dudes like whenever something happens, I wanna benefit from it. Be greedy, be like Karlov ;-)

    Abzkaban on Ghave That Bitch an Infinite Combo [Primer]

    1 week ago

    Mj3913

    Thanks! Glad you like it.

    I actually haven’t really considered soul sisters when making the deck as it doesn’t have much of a way to abuse lifegain. I mean I suppose Sanguine Bond could do the trick, but you’d also need a soul sister, and an infinite tokens or sac combo to abuse the etb trigger. That just seems like too many cards to be worth it to me, and I’ve never felt like I needed to gain life to stay in the game long enough to win.

    As far as Aristocrats goes, you could build off of that with Ghave, but I don’t see it as going infinite. I mean benefiting from making sacrifices is essentially the core of the Aristocrats strategy, so in a sense Ghave already does that. As far as traditional Aristocrats, though, no I haven’t gone much into that route here although I’d love to see someone make a true Aristocrats deck with Ghave. It’s one of my favorite archetypes, so seeing Ghave at the helm of one would be sweet. My Aristocrats decks tend to lean more Mardu. Dang, did I say Aristocrats enough times? Aristocrats.

    I could see Krav, the Unredeemed working in this deck. Draw as many cards as I have creatures to sacrifice and gain life and +1/+1 counters on top of that for only ? Sure! The only reason I hesitate is his casting cost. I’d like to be able to get a draw engine going for cheaper than 5 mana. He’s certainly worth testing, though.

    Mj3913 on Ghave That Bitch an Infinite Combo [Primer]

    1 week ago

    Nice deck +1, I've been trying my hand at Ghave ever since I came across Carnival of Souls . Of course I'm also trying to include soul sisters and aristocrats, but with all the other interactions and combos it's a monumental task. Have you considered it in the history of this build? Also Krav, the Unredeemed could be a neat draw engine/draw out wincon.

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    Krav, the Unredeemed occurrence in decks from the last year

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    All decks: 0.03%

    Black: 0.18%

    Golgari: 0.1%

    W/B (Orzhov): 0.74%