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1v1 Commander | Legal |
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Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
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Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Pauper | Legal |
Pauper Duel Commander | Legal |
Pauper EDH | Legal |
Planar Constructed | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Oona's Grace
Instant
Target player draws a card.
Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)
thefiresoflurve on Typical Hinata is Typical
2 years ago
Okay, so cuts first: 1. all the "Diamond" series of mana rocks can go, they're kind of bad. The signets are good, they can stay.
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Paradoxical Outcome can go. It's not exactly what you want here since you don't have strong ETB themes.
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Keep Safe there are better counters.
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Decoy Gambit can go. Not really strong enough to warrant giving people the options.
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Sunbird's Invocation is a bit too expensive for what it does in this deck, IMO.
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Dualcaster Mage - this doesn't target (its ETB effect does the targeting), but if you want the copy effect, you can replace it later with something else, like Increasing Vengeance.
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Radiant Scrollwielder and Soulfire Grand Master - I saw exactly 4 cards that these even affect, probably not worth using with so little synergy. (and their abilities aren't the most useful here)
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Oona's Grace - not bad, but not worthy of the 100.
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Aether Gale - you have other cards that do what this is trying to do, but better.
You've also got what looks like multiples of a couple cards, which could help the count. Hope this helps! Let me know after you've made some edits and I'll help some more.
QuestionMarc on Vadrik's Discount Spell Emporium
3 years ago
Looking over the deck and playtesting it a few times I have what I consider a pretty exhaustive maybe list with some cards being worth considering and discussing and a few being real treasures! Here is the full list and if I did it right hopefully all the cards are links.
- Call the Skybreaker
- Capsize
- Cascade Bluffs
- Champion's Helm
- Clockspinning
- Coalition Relic
- Commander's Plate
- Contagion Clasp
- Darksteel Plate
- Deflecting Swat
- Door of Destinies
- Drown in Dreams
- Elementalist's Palette
- Expanded Anatomy
- Expansion / Explosion
- Fanning the Flames
- Fatespinner
- Fierce Guardianship
- Finale of Revelation
- Fists of Flame
- Flux Channeler
- Force of Will
- Galazeth Prismari
- Haze of Rage
- Illuminate
- Insurrection
- Izzet Boilerworks
- Jaya's Immolating Inferno
- Jeska's Will
- Leyline of Anticipation
- Lonely Sandbar
- Lunar Frenzy
- Mana Drain
- Mana Geyser
- Metallic Mimic
- Midnight Clock
- Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
- Mystic Remora
- Mystic Sanctuary
- Oona's Grace
- Opal Palace
- Prismari Campus
- Reality Ripple
- Reality Shift
- Reiterate
- Rhystic Study
- Ring of Evos Isle
- Riverglide Pathway Flip
- Runechanter's Pike
- Sage of Fables
- Scour from Existence
- Sea Gate Restoration Flip
- Seething Anger
- Shatterskull Smashing Flip
- Spark Double
- Storm-Kiln Artist
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Sword of Truth and Justice
- Temple of Epiphany
- Tezzeret's Gambit
- Tyrite Sanctum
- Unleash Fury
- Valakut Awakening Flip
- Vandalblast
- Vedalken Orrery
- Volcanic Island
- Volcanic Vision
- Wandering Archaic Flip
- Whispers of the Muse
- Zaffai, Thunder Conductor
Gattison on Almost Broke The Format, Until …
3 years ago
What about instead of the Drannith Bros. you used something like Cunning Survivor and a " rummage " effect?
- something like Faithless Salvaging , Epiphany Storm
- or make use of creatures that rummage on ETB like Fissure Wizard (fun card name to say lol)
- or Flux
- Krovikan Sorcerer 's second ability looks kinda promising
- Mental Discipline is not a creature, but would need lots of mana. Oona's Grace would also be repeatable once it hits your graveyard, but it's still mana-hungry.
- Also note that if your use Brainstorm you could set up your draw, allowing you to use all the blue spells that draw THEN discard like Zephyr Scribe
That's all I could think of so far. Does that help inspire anybody, or am I reaching like usual? Maybe cram it all together and with all that draw you're bound to get Cunning Survivor in a reasonable amount of time?
griffstick on Spells that come back
3 years ago
- Archangel's Light
- Seasons Past
- Reach of Branches
- Spit Flame
- Repeating Barrage
- Rekindled Flame
- Hammer of Bogardan
- Grim Reminder
- Whiteout
- Sosuke's Summons
- Krovikan Rot
- Darkblast
- Unconventional Tactics
- Summon the School
- Shenanigans
- Icefall
- Grim Harvest
- Death of a Thousand Stings
- Reality Scramble
- Throes of Chaos
- Petals of Insight
- Redeem the Lost
- Waves of Aggression
- Call the Skybreaker
- Spitting Image
- Worm Harvest
- Glamerdye
- Savage Conception
- Syphon Life
- Monstrify
- Flame Jab
- Raven's Crime
- Oona's Grace
- Cenn's Enlistment
That's all I got for now.
King_Of_Thallids on Nymris, Oona's Trickster - Help Needed
3 years ago
Flash of Insight , Think Twice , Oona's Grace , Radical Idea , Chemister's Insight , Brazen Borrower , Logic Knot , Murderous Cut , Temporal Trespass (Not instant speed, but an extra turn fueled buy all the cards in you graveyard can't hurt), Saw It Coming , Rise of the Dread Marn , Jarl of the Forsaken Glimpse of Freedom , and Cling to Dust .
mrdehring on Hands In the Sky
3 years ago
A few other mechanics to look for: rebound, cipher, retrace, aftermath, cascade. Of all these I think Oona's Grace is probably just a crazy card.
I was also thinking of other ways to cheat cards into being cast Mind's Dilation , Daxos of Meletis , Planeswalker's Mischief , Baral's Expertise , Stolen Goods , Talent of the Telepath , Diluvian Primordial , Chaos Wand , Omen Machine , Djinn of Wishes , God-Eternal Kefnet . Some of these seem like they may be inconsistent, but I really like Knowledge Pool .
katanakid13 on Copy all the Draw
4 years ago
If you're looking for input, here's a randoms two cents: Thanks to the way Twinning Staff is worded, making a copy of a copy spell makes an infinite chain. Increasing Vengeance's copy will automatically make a 2nd copy, targeting the original, making 2 more, so three on the stack, making 6, making 12, making 24, etc, as they resolve. Suddenly low costed damage spells (Shock, Lightning Bolt) or even cards like Oona's Grace that say "Target player draws" become lethal. And because of the way the stack works, there's little chance for your opponents to interact. You're only casting at most three spells, so Flusterstorm's out, and they'd need to counter all four spells on the stack or face an infinitely big Stormasaurus.
SideBae on Aminatou in Progress
5 years ago
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So Preordain is awesome for the same reasons your Brainstorm and Ponder are... I suggest running it.
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Narset, Parter of Veils is a great way to limit your competitive opponents. Especially if you pair her with a well-timed Windfall . Ashiok, Dream Render happens to be another way to punish people for playing tutor-tribal kinds of strategies.
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Another hallmark of competitive decks is their ramp, especially zero and two-mana. In your description, you say you want to stay budget -- unfortunately, that rules out about all of the good zero mana ramp. ( Mox Tantalite is bad, and Mox Amber is hardly better most of the time.) So I suggest increasing your two-mana ramp, and maybe including Ancient Tomb if at all possible to speed up their presence on the board. Some to consider: Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Dominance , Coldsteel Heart , Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone , Everflowing Chalice , Prismatic Lens , etc. None of these should be more than a few bucks.
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Concerning your lands: I think you're running too many, especially if you add some of the ramp mentioned in (3). I'd cut four-ish, maybe five. Generally, once you have a few (3 - 4) lands, you'd rather have a rock and a land in hand than just two lands, since you can cast the rock without using your land-drop. I'm not sure HOW budget you want to keep this deck, but Mana Confluence and City of Brass are each around $10, and they're great in any three or more color deck. Pain lands ( Caves of Koilos , Adarkar Wastes and Underground River ) are better than your tapped lands like Sejiri Refuge , as far as I can tell.
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I think a reanimation package is probably better than running Show and Tell . Show and Tell is symmetrical, and is often actively dangerous to resolve in EDH, when everyone is trying to do busted stuff. I'm much more a fan of Buried Alive and Entomb to get your fatties in the bin, and then using Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , Reanimate and/or Necromancy (which is $$$ for some reason) to get them back.
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Tutors like your Demonic Tutor are good, but like zero mana rocks they tend to be pricy (see Vampiric Tutor and Enlightened Tutor ). One I do suggest is Lim-Dul's Vault , which is only a couple dollars these days. It also happens to be instant speed, which is kinda dumb-powerful, if you ask me.
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Cumulative upkeep was designed to make powerful effects transient; however, Aminatou, the Fateshifter sorta changes that equation with her -1. Consider cards like Mystic Remora , which you can blink to keep around relatively indefinitely. Similar cards to consider are: Musician , Phyrexian Etchings , Tidal Control and Infernal Darkness (if you're particularly mean).
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Divining Witch is interesting -- I'd actually never seen that card before. If you're trying to exile your deck and win with your Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , I think Demonic Consultation is probably a better way... though you might want to keep both. Another method (that I think is worse) is to use the card Doomsday , which is only a few dollars. The problem is that if you run Doomsday , you'd likely want to run a Doomsday -package, so you could win by just casting it and drawing into your top card... For that, I'd suggest talking to someone smarter than me, as I've never been able to get the hang of what the hell is going on with that strategy. All I know is that the package usually has something like Gitaxian Probe and Lotus Petal and ends with me being dead.
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You may have good luck with card draw spells. Repeatable effects, like Phyrexian Arena and/or Dark Confidant , tend to be expensive; luckily, the spell versions are often decidedly less so. I suggest running a few or more of the following: Painful Truths , Night's Whisper , Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time (running both can be tough since delve can get in its own way), Fact or Fiction , Thirst for Knowledge , Concentrate , Chemister's Insight , Oona's Grace (questionable, due to the high mana requirement), Ancient Excavation (good with the reanimation mentioned in (5)), Archmage's Charm , Chart a Course , Syphon Mind , Deep Analysis and/or Words of Wisdom -- pay extra attention to the instants you can cast on an opponents end step. Another way to do this is simply to steal your opponents' card draw with Notion Thief or Plagiarize .
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Lastly, I know its around $11 these days, but I think Counterbalance would be dumb in this deck. Using your general's +1 will let you stack whatever you want on top, which can be especially devastating if you can keep an opponent's general off the board that way.
Good luck man! Love this deck.
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