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Target player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)
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Syphon Life Discussion
1 week ago
1 month ago
As a dicarding deck lover and user, I feel free to post here. Hope you don't mind.First, I'll back my comment up by acknowledging you that I've built and played discard for many years way before Shrieking existed, and thus, I've commited the same mystakes as everyone (like trying Liliana's Caress and Quest for the Nihil Stone, for example) ...and no, I won't suggest those.
Good job with the budget deck, seems pretty legit.
I'm aware that you are aware of Inquisition of Kozilek being 3-4 usd is a budget possibility. And I do agree that a card like Blackmail is special because it can discard lands. But that job is for another star on your team; you've already got 4 copies of Raven's Crime (plus all the flood lands that will turn into more copies of it), Raven's got that issue perfectly covered.
Inquisition of Kozilek covers another issue, the one that concerns about disrupting the opponent's starting play. He'll never reveal his important 1-drops or 2-drops, because he needs them for his wicked plan. Inquisition is the hero that gives the villain a hard time or at the very least, buys us some time.
So, sumering up: I know Blackmail is a great card, but we (the users of this deck) need to get a pick at our opponent's entire hand to mock his best start. It's a luxury we cannot miss. Inquisition of Kozilek excells at doing so and can be backed up by one or two copies of Duress, Despise or Harsh Scrutiny, all of those great super budget options.
As far as removal, I pretty much agree with your choices. What I definitely add is a singleton Murderous Cut and maybe cut out a copy of Victim.
About Necrogen Mists which is in your "maybeboard" right now. I wouldn't even bother. 4 copies of Raven's Crime (plus two Delirium Skeins) are more than enough substitute for Liliana of the Veil's constant discard.
By the way, I love Augur of Skulls. I've played it even in non-budget, since Wrench Mind doesn't work around heavy artifact deck playgroups -which was my case for some time-. Delirium Skeins would have been a good substitute too, but I was running too many 3cmc cards at the time.
One last thing, I've just noticed you didn't sideboard any specifics against burn so I suggest considering either:
2- Nyxathid which can stand lots of direct damage, block those prowess little scum, and help killing your opponent since it's most likely that he'll tear our The Rack appart with their new toy Abrade.
Hope it helps!
3 months ago
I playtested it. Its pretty nice, but the manabase... huh. Little junky.
In my opinion u need some GB taplands (every ability to activate and double mana cost is G or B). If you want place for Spirit Guide - cut murasa and lands. 20-21 should be enough. Ohh... and what do you think about 1-2 Reaping the Graves after cascade? For lategame. 3+ cards back (6 mana needed)
About side, I recommend:
- Wail of the Nim instead of Cower in Fear, cause can give regeneration
- 2 Evincar's Justice / Pestilence or just even in the mainboad, cause almost 90% of the ceatures in pauper have 1 or 2 toughness
- some Pyroblast
- some Syphon Life vs burn
- some Hush vs bogles
- some Last Rites vs control / combos / grindy decks
4 months ago
first off, awesome deck. Painful Quandary looks high for running multiple Smallpox, but I agree, it is very fun. Waste Not is awesome for discard decks in my opinion, it's like gambling. check out my pox deck, I'd love your input. Liliana's Torture Dungeon. I like the use of Syphon Life, maybe I'll throw it in. Good work +1
5 months ago
also with 4x Liliana of the Veil,4x Collective Brutality,4x Smallpox ,1x Syphon Life 8x Fetch Lands AND the tap ability of Reliquary i seriously doubt she will complain about now enough lands on the grave.
5 months ago
also i would go something like -2 Raven's Crime and go +1 Collective Brutality + 1 else (2nd Syphon Life maybe).
I have tested both Raven's Crime and Collective Brutality a lot and the bonus you gain from looking at your opponents hand is wayyyy better than being able to spamm discard. You need to know what to expect from your opponent so you can play around it.
6 months ago
Necrogen Mists is good. Mutavault is good, especially if you switch your sideboard creature to Pack Rat. One copy of Syphon Life can be good, since you're running Dakmor already (if you get the bridge down but don't have any Rack/Affliction down, gets your damage counter going and keeps you out of burn range). Shadow of Doubt can be a fun sideboard card for decks like Tron and podless-pod.
I am personally running a Black/Red version if you're looking for some different options: 8-Rakdos
7 months ago
Hello again, colormage1!
Glad I could help. If Jaddi is what you're looking for, Grazing Gladehart might also be good. It's more squishy, but gains more life. Just more knobs to balance out the deck. If you want an endgame fancy version, Primeval Bounty is a six-mana lifegain machine that also adds value to every cast you make.
Another card that might be useful would be Reach of Branches, if you add more Forests. Unlike most of your other token generators, it'd also be useful from the graveyard if dredged away.
Retrace cards might be worth looking into, to help abuse Life from the Loam even more. Worm Harvest gives an instant army, Spitting Image is perfect for random trolling, and Syphon Life gives a little bit of inevitability.
Just shooting off possibilities. You could probably streamline this deck into a straight land-self-mill deck, but I don't know if that's what you want to do.