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Return six target nonland permanents to their owner's hands.
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Aether Gale Discussion
5 months ago
This isn't super sorted, but I tried to keep similar effects together, sorted by cost as well.
General Tip - Since Narset can only cast things whenever they could be cast, instants are a big advantage
About Wraths - You won't want to cast them with Narset out, but it's better than dying(probably get 4-6)
Things to cut:
any equipment - equipment is okay, but since you don't get the equip cost for free you want to focus on low equip costs, or things that protect narset
about aura's - normally they're just card disadvantage but narset probably offsets that
bounce lands - (like Boros Garrison) are usually a little awkward and slow, in three colors you're better off with basics
Aether Gale - tricky since it needs six targets and that won't always be possible
Sea God's Revenge - bounce that only targets creatures usually isn't worth it in EDH, probably better to have hard removal
Breath of Fury - while decent if you have the creatures (and you have some token generation) it's probably not consistent enough, just run sorcs that give extra combats
Dissipation Field - often gives too much value to opponents, maybe even being a lure (lightmine field might be a decent replacement)
Dismiss Into Dreams - you're not targeting that often, and if you are it should be removal anyways
Assemble the Legion - Seems to slow to be effective
Throne of the God-Pharaoh - Need to go wide for this to be really effective
_cheap$$(around or less than a dollar): _
Swords to Plowshares(removal) - excellent creature removal, cheap if you happen to draw it
Crib Swap(removal) - still exiles a creature outright, but 3cmc
Banishing Stroke (removal, tuck, utility) - expensive hard cast without narset/miracle but tucking is often better than destroying(worse than exiling)
Relentless Assault(extra combats) - Extra attack steps with Narset is dumb, do it
Fury of the Horde(extra combats) - extra attack steps (they're the best)
Boros Charm(protection, burn) - versatile, keeps narset alive
Return to Dust(utility removal) - Exiling artifacts and enchantments is better than not
Vandalblast(Mass artifact removal) - not an exciting card, but taking out only opponents artifacts cripples some decks
Sunforger(tutor/equipment) - only good if you have enough cards it can search for, is mana intensive but if you have enough cards it can fetch it'll be worth it
Lightmine Field(pillowfort/defense) - Narset can attack through it, and keeps token swarms off your back
Crawlspace(pillowfort/defense) - Against, stops large swarms, still you'll probably get hit by the two biggest creatures
Counterflux(counterspell) - strong counterspell, wins counter wars
Render Silent(counterspell) - Makes people sad, locks them out of whole turns
Insidious Will(counterspell, spell copy) - versatile, let's you copy stronger effects from narset as well
Reverberate(spell copy) - often is what you need it to be, can be a counterspell or raw value, great for piggybacking on green ramp
Wild Ricochet(spell copy) - copy a spell, twice!
Spelltwine(spell copy, recursion) - recursion is great since you're putting so much stuff in your graveyard
Call to Mind (recursion) - you have spells, may as well re-use the best ones
Mystic Retrieval (recursion) - same but with flashback!
Mirari(spell copying) - copying any instant or sorcery for three is a pretty good deal if you don't have to pay for the spell already
Clone Legion(wincon) - With how many etb creatures people run, this can be a game ender, or enough raw value to put you ahead
Blatant Thievery(card advantage, removal) - stealing things makes people mad, but it's very effective
Journeyer's Kite(ramp) - slower than rocks, but more reliable, a slow and steady way to get mana
Brass's Bounty(ramp) - only good if you need a lot of mana one time
Chain Reaction(mass removal) - board dependent, and kills narset, sometimes you need more wraths
Day of Judgment(mass removal) - very strong
Final Judgment(mass removal) - against some decks destroying all creatures isn't enough, exiling is
_LANDS(can be boring, but are often a big part of how your deck performs): _
Command Tower - Must have in three colors
Mystic Monastery - Tapped lands aren't great, tri-color tap lands in your color are
Rogue's Passage(unblockable) - Being colorless is bad, being unblockable is good
not so cheap$$(around three or more dollars):
Path to Exile(removal) - a second StP, not all decks need it, but it is strong
Darksteel Plate(protection) - keeps your commander safer, isn't super powerful, cheap equip
Rite of Replication(wincon, value) - You still have to pay the kicker but this card is incredible
Waves of Aggression(extra combats) - take extra combats, plus you can play it from the graveyard
Wrath of God(mass removal) - it's the best, but day of judgment is as good 99% of the time
Austere Command(mass removal) - hit's only what you need it to hit, can ignore narset if necessary
Cyclonic Rift(mass removal) - one sided, but you have to pay for the kicker with narset, still can steal games
Blasphemous Act(mass removal) - often one mana
8 months ago
Yes, 3x costing Boomerang/Eye of Nowhere/AEther Tradewinds/Capsize/Consign to Dream/Crosis's Charm/Grixis Charm/Recoil/Regress/Rescind/Resounding Wave/Wipe Away mean that either the ability is too powerful or can't go on a commander with blue. But that's not even the worst of it, as there are more wording problems... How would Aether Gale even work with overload?!
10 months ago
Outpost Siege is gone - was there as a way to get to suspend something possibly better than in hand since draw is an issue.
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1 year ago
I gave it some more thought. I'm thinking of adding Peregrine Drake and/or Great Whale in addition to Paradox Engine. They can generate infinite mana with various combinations of Time Elemental, Capsize, High Tide and Caged Sun, which can bounce all enemy permanents.
Two other possible additional payoff cards might be Whispers of the Muse and Blue Sun's Zenith. Whisper is pretty low opportunity cost and can draw my entire deck when going infinite. Blue Sun's Zenith can mill out at least one opponent.
This would require a bunch of cuts. Some possible cuts: Ulamog's Crusher, Mulldrifter, Windfall, Sphinx of Uthuun, Deep-Sea Kraken, Recall and something else (maybe Artisan of Kozilek or Aether Gale... or maybe both and add Temporal Adept or Temporal Fissure.
I wonder if Empress Galina is worth it...
1 year ago
Sorry all for the late reply. I hadn't noticed all the comments.
I actually came to this deck to make notify of some changes, for those curious.
Out: Trinket Mage, Coralhelm Commander, Deadeye Navigator, Dissolve, Aeon Chronicler, Aether Gale, Trailblazer's Boots, Soramaro, First to Dream, Mnemonic Wall
In: Forbid, Recall, Dissipation Field, Time Stop, Amnesia, Long-Term Plans, Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Ivory Tower, Kefnet the Mindful
To Leumas, yeah, Coralhelm Commander didn't do a whole lot in this deck, and has been cut. I never found myself wanting to bother with leveling it up. My initial thought was it would make for a nice flier with spare mana. Not worth it though. Chasm Skulker was in this deck before Kami was the commander, and it was fun, but with the return to hand effects I have in this deck, I either lose the counters on it, or if it's been destroyed, I lose the tokens. It's good, but not so much for this build. Ebony Owl Netsuke I do like as well, but I am specifically trying to stay away from effects like that. It's just personal preference. Quest for Ula's Temple is great too, but I don't want anyone knowing anything have in my hand, and it also suffers from my own return to hand spells like Devastation Tide. I could see Sphinx's Tutelage being in here at some point though. I will keep it in the maybeboard. Thanks!
To Love-in-Theory, you'll see I just added Kefnet the Mindful. It seems really broken for this deck, and I'm excited to see it hit the field. I like Levitation, but my deck usually doesn't swing unless I can get a little hit in, or when there is one opponent left, in which case this deck can easily defeat that last opponent after I've crafted my hand the whole game. Soramaro, First to Dream wasn't bad, but it wasn't doing a whole lot for me either. It's been cut for now. Patron of the Moon has come up minimally since I've added it, but I haven't been upset to see it, and it feels nice to be able to jettison land from my hand. Magus of the Jar I haven't really had come up too much so I can't really say one way or the other how well it's going to really work. That draw sphinx I don't really need. I could see getting it some day, but for now I'm gonna hold off.
To Trtl, I could never get rid of Thought Vessel. It's too good in this deck. The vessel is great for this deck not just because of bit of ramp but because of the no max hand size attribute. I've been suggested Library of Leng before, and I'm not sure how I feel about it. My playgroup doesn't do much in the way of wheel effects, though one of my friends was talking about making a deck with that new Locust god, and how good it would be with a bunch of wheels, so perhaps that will be a much needed inclusion in the future. I will add it to the Maybeboard. Forbid I DID just add, so that suggestion was spot on!
1 year ago
Ok so here are a few suggestions. You take what you want from it
- Archetype of Imagination is better then islandwalk and pairs very well with Stormtide Leviathan
- Colossal Whale, has islandwalk and surprisingly is very good from my exp
- Lorthos, the Tidemaker, if you've seen what Yosei, the Morning Star can do to a player you would know this one is good too
- Scourge of Fleets is fantastic removal and for 2 more mana it's better then Aether Gale
- Shipbreaker Kraken isnt bad either
- Expropriate is such a good card should find room for this card
- Mind's Dilation is another great card
- AEtherize and AEtherspouts are great too