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Create a token that's a copy of target creature.
Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)
Spitting Image Discussion
5 months ago
5 months ago
Congratulations for your deck! I like the idea of cloning stuff, and I am still trying to find a build that works. If I can give you a hint, prefer cards that can clone any creature on the field over the cards that can only clone your creatures (everyone should have a Consecrated Sphinx , right? Not only your opponent).
I don't feel like would help you much with cloning. The best (and maybe only) white card that refers to cloning is Mirrorweave .
If you look at https://edhrec.com/themes/clones, you will see that almost all clone effects are blue: Clone , Vizier of Many Faces , Gigantoplasm , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , Body Double , Mirror Image , Supplant Form , Blatant Thievery , Clone Legion , Mirror Match . If you want to copy spells aswell, Insidious Will , Swarm Intelligence and Spelltwine are there for you.
gives you Evil Twin and all black tutors and removal.
gives you Altered Ego , Progenitor Mimic , Spitting Image and all of green ramp and removal. For me, it is the best color to splash on a blue clone deck, because it also allows the Biovisionary alternative win-condition.
As long as commander suggestions are concerned, here are some ideas:
Riku of Two Reflections is the go-to clone commander. He has all the relevant colors for cloning (), but he is crazy expensive at 20 dollars, so it might be good to consider other options:
You can have Keiga, the Tide Star as your commander. This way, you can clone him and let the copy Keiga die to the legend rule. When the Keiga copy dies, you can steal an opponent's creature, while still having the original Keiga.
You can have Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer as your commander. He is a win condition by himself, giving tokens haste and making all of them bigger. Red gives you a lot of token generators: Brass's Bounty , Flameshadow Conjuring , Storm the Vault Flip among others. Imagine creating a token copy of a Kokusho, the Evening Star , then turn all your tokens into Kokusho, then sacrificing all them to the legend rule, then draining all your oponents for lethal. Great value!
You can have Tatyova, Benthic Druid as your commander. She doesn't refer to a clone strategy, but she gives a lot of card draw by just playing lands (your hand will always be filled). You can clone Rampaging Baloths and Avenger of Zendikar for a massive win. Also, you have access to all the blue-green clones and the Biovisionary + Rite of Replication combo.
If you want to use altogether, you might consider Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder or Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis . Yidris allows you to use Evil Twin and all the black removal. Yidris also increases the value you get from playing spells by cascading into other spells. // K&T, on the other hand, gives you card advantage and makes you less threatening while you build your board. White also gives you access to great boardwipes ( Austere Command ).
All in all, good luck in your deckbuilding and have fun!
6 months ago
I have a few myself. In no particular order.
Wither - I.e. Everlasting Torment . Such a good way to deal combat damage.
Transfigure - No, not transmute, Fleshwrither 's ability. I realize this one would be used sparingly... but a buy-a-box promo? (Affinity for Artifacts coming back raised the bar). I'd personally want a 3 drop.
Real 'Protection from XXX' - How hard is it to remember the acronym D.E.B.T.? Can't be D.amaged, E.nchanted, B.locked, T.argeted. Granted far too many people struggle with their, there, and they're... so maybe I'm asking too much.
Retrace - I.e. Spitting Image . Such a good use for excess lands.
6 months ago
You're missing Spitting Image . You won't be disappointed by a late game land draw anymore... retrace is busted.
7 months ago
People will likely come up with more complex; but here's some high cmc
I like Progenitor Mimic + Eternal Witness + Temporal Manipulation . Once e-wit is already in play, you might have pay 11 mana to pull that off in one turn. There's also Archaeomancer and Salvager of Secrets which are less efficient. Deadeye Navigator instead of the mimic is even more mana per turn.
11 months ago
All right. I'm not going to go into detail on cards to add unless you ask, but I am going to link one of my fairly similar decks at the bottom. I am going to focus on cuts.
But before we get to that, I'd like to address a couple glaring issues.
Your mana curve is devastatingly high. You are going to be playing nothing until turn 3 most of the time and that does not fly in commander. You should have your engine set up, or at least have a decent board state by turn 4. A lot of decks spend the first turns ramping and turn 4 is when shit begins. Your deck is looking more like turn 6.
Your deck has too much goodstuff to establish a reliable engine. There are a lot of cards here that really don't contribute to the theme. They're good, sure, but they could be better used in other decks and they could also be replaced with a card more applicable to your deck's theme.
Also you have VERY few cards that put counters on other creatures. I count 6. Note that that is just cards that place counters, not double them or add. I see a lot of circumstances where you have a proliferate effect or a counter doubler but have counters on maybe 2 creatures, and only because those creatures entered the battlefield with counters. You have a low creature count and most of them will either cost a lot of mana because they have an , or they don't place counters at all.
Now that that's out of the way, down to cuts.
Altered Ego is not that good. I mean it's not bad but it's pretty overcosted and it is downright awful in the early game.
Beast Whisperer is not going to be drawing you many cards, with a meager 26 creatures in the deck.
Hooded Hydra is also fairly overcosted, though it's not as bad as many other cards in the deck.
Laboratory Maniac is BAD, unless you're drawing enough cards to deck yourself out, and if you are then it'll probably get shot down and you'll lose the game. Not only that, but you will never deck yourself out because you would totally die first.
Lifeblood Hydra is either very overcosted, or it's not gonna die. For my reasoning, consider the curve. You cast it at 4 mana, it's a 1/1. Cast it at 5 and it's a 2/2. Cast for 6 and it's a 3/3. I would say that a 4/4 for 7 mana with that ability is BARELY worth it and anything bigger than 7/7 (10 mana) is not going to easily die. Do you want this to stick around? If so, it's overcosted. Do you want it to die? If so, still overcosted. It could stick around for a couple turns, eat a big attack IF an opponent is playing voltron and the voltron doesn't have trample, flying, or unblockable, and then die. That is the only use I could see for it.
Overbeing of Myth is goodstuff and not really all that good unless you have unlimited hand size.
Tatyova, Benthic Druid is great but this is not a deck that can take advantage of its power.
Walking Ballista doesn't seem like a ton of value. It can ping down a small creature or two but with very, VERY few cards that consistently provide counters to creatures it won't last long.
Fuel for the Cause is just plain bad. First of all it's a 4-mana counterspell. A 3-mana counterspell is pushin it but 4?? That means you're leaving 4 mana up HOPING to get something worth countering, rather than playing another spell every turn. Not only that but how many of your dudes have counters on them cuz most of them either enter with counters or aren't going to get them.
Darksteel Reactor is laughably slow.
Elixir of Immortality is a confusing addition. What does it do? Do you play against mill often? I will repeat that you are NEVER drawing enough cards to deck out before someone kills you.
Lux Cannon is also laughably slow.
Death's Presence is a good removal failsafe, but it costs a lot of mana and your creatures aren't dying in combat. So unless your opponents are packing a fair amount of removal this isn't doing a lot of work.
Rite of Replication and Spitting Image are bad because they DON'T copy counters (love the tricksy idea with Toothy tho), so whatever you're copying is probably an opponent's creature or one of few creatures you control that DON'T have in their costs.
Garruk, Caller of Beasts is super bad. His + is likely not to hit anything in such a creature-light deck, his - is equally bad. His ult is insane but you'll never get there because insane ults draw hate. Your opponents would just kill him.
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets is not great here. His + is fantastic but has nothing to do with the theme. His - is fairly weak. His ult is also a game winner, but once again, the opponents would just kill him.
Kiora, the Crashing Wave is bad in this deck. + is bad, - is decent but unreliable, and ult is kinda strong but not anything crazy and it would take a bit to get there.
Nissa, Vital Force has nothing to do with this deck. Her + isn't bad, but her - is and her ult is not gonna do you a whole pile of good.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar is not bad here, but there are much better places she could be.
Here's my relatively similar deck, if you'd like to take a look.
Commander / EDH
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1 year ago
Okay so the main problem here seems to be focus. Yeah your curve is bad, but usaDiabetic said enough about that. Imma talk about cards. Also I'm linking my deck at the bottom of this comment because it's very similar. Borrow what you will.
There are a lot of cards in this brew that I looked at and just thought 'what are you doing here'. Whether they didn't fit the theme or were just outright bad, these are some cuts I might suggest for taking USA's and my advice into account.
Crystalline Crawler. It feels kind of useless. Like, what is it there to do? It's either a subpar mana rock or a weak attacker/blocker.
Guardian of the Gateless doesn't interact with +1/+1 counters, is 5 mana, and really isn't great in general. Either you block a bunch of stuff and it dies or you just use it as 2 blockers, and there are much better things to do with 5 mana.
Majestic Myriarch, while powerful, is not a card for this deck. Once again there is the lack of interaction with counters and also it's just a big dumb creature with a lot of keywords. At 5 mana? Not worth it.
Noosegraf Mob will die far too quickly for any counters to be placed on him. In commander I'm casting 5 spells every turn by the time you're casting this guy.
Reflector Mage, while a good card in general, has no place in this deck. Once again, why is it here?
The same is true for Reveillark.
And for Vizier of the Menagerie.
And for Nissa, Steward of Elements.
And for Haunted Cloak, Inspiring Statuary, Panharmonicon, Paradox Engine, Approach of the Second Sun, Migratory Route, Nissa's Pilgrimage, Spitting Image, As Foretold, and Ancient Excavation. All of these are good cards, some really good, but their are other decks that could utilize them better. They're just goodstuff in this deck, where elsewhere they could really be something!
Incremental Growth nay not be worth it for 5 mana. There are much better plays for that cost.
And once again, after you put in some ramp, I have a ton of suggestions for replacing suboptimal cards here. If you'd like me to go into more detail on specific all-stars I will. If I came off as really harsh I'm sorry, this actually looks like one of the first commander decks I ever built myself so I felt like I had to comment, for nostalia's sake. Thanks for bearing with me through this behemoth of a comment, and happy brewing.
Commander / EDH
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1 year ago
I have seen the spoilers of the cards and I am now a bit more excited. New comments on mechanics:
Mentor is still a bad, unexciting mechanic. Goblin warboss is a bad imitation of Goblin Rabblemaster and it should feel bad. I had low expectations and I am still disappointed.
Jump-start is intersting. Quasiduplicate or whatever it is an improvement on Cackling Counterpart, but that is not really saying much. It is an improvement over Spitting Image. But now that I see how the mechanic works on a card, I am not hopeful it can support a deck on its own, it seems strictly a support mechanic, which is not too bad. Mild interest in Jump-start, name still sucks.
Undergrowth is interesting. It is a really simple one, but effective nontheless. The removal previewed was nice and I think that we can see a lot more from it. It has the possibility that it will create some broken modern card. High excitement for undergrowth.
Surveil is interesting - we have a surveil 1 Cancel, which is the obligatory Cancel variant of the set. It is interesting and most importantly, works with Jump Start and undergrowth (more with undergrowth). I foresee a Grixis Control deck with Jump Start and surveil and Nicol Bolas being a top dog in Standard.
Convoke, no new card, but new Emmara is stupidly powerful with convoke in the set. In modern with Intruder Alarm, especially so.
Overall, I am excited mostly by these things:
- Shocklands, woo hoo!
- Have you seen the new basics with the guild symbols in the textbox? If they are not foil, I want a million of each.
- Surveil/Jump Start Bolas control is something I am now excited to do.
Spitting Image occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%