Throes of Chaos
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.)
Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)
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|Modern Horizons (MH1)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Throes of Chaos Discussion
1 week ago
I like the addition of Glint-Horn Buccaneer from you maybeboard as it acts as a discard outlet as well as giving added value to your madness and other discards.
Any flashback Increasing Ambition, retrace Throes of Chaos or dredge cards Shenanigans all work well with the host of discard outlets in the deck. Madness obviously works best but those others are good as well.
1 month ago
If you wanna go all-in on the spell copying i have a few things. You need cost reduction, in addition to Electromancer you have Baral, Chief of Cumpleaños , Arcane Melee , Mizzix of the Izmagnus , and Curious Homunculus Flip for creatures. There're also the Medallion artifacts( Sapphire , Emerald , and Ruby ) and Jace's Sanctum is an enchantment that also has you scry 1 each time you cast an instant or sorcery. You can also look at As Foretold , Throes of Chaos , and Maelstrom Wanderer as ways to get "free" spells so you can use the mana that the spells cost to instead copy them. You're also going to want more mana acceleration so you can cast multiple spells or utilize multiple copy effects the best dorks are Rattleclaw Mystic , BoP , and Sylvan Caryatid and for 2CMC rocks you have the Signets( Izzet , Simic , and Gruul ) and the Talismans ( Creativity , Curiosity , and Impulse ). If you don't want to rely on artifacts for ramp since they don't synergize with Riku Kodama's Reach and Cultivate are pretty much auto-includes for G ramp spells, and Nature's Lore , Farseek , and Skyshroud Claim to get non-basic Forests into play faster, this does mean you'll need more non-basic Forests so you should get Breeding Pool , Stomping Ground , and Sheltered Thicket . Once you have costs down you can focus on the value you get out of your spells an easy way is looking at Twiddle effects like Rewind , Frantic Search , Snap , and Unwind , similar to Peregrine Drake and Palinchron , they untap their costs worth of lands so when you copy them or reduce their costs they start to generate mana. Now that you've generated a stupid amount of mana you need things to do with it so you have Epic Experiment , Expropriate , Time Stretch , and Rishkar's Expertise for value and you can use Fireball , Fall of the Titans , Finale of Devastation , and Electrodominance to just straight up kill people. Additional ways to copy spells are Dualcaster Mage , Dual Casting , Repeated Reverberation , Bonus Round , and Increasing Vengeance and Echo Mage , and some added value effects you can use are Rashmi, Eternities Crafter and Sunbird's Invocation .
3 months ago
Maybe add Oblivion Ring as a one or two of as just blanket removal against fringe cards. Also Veil of Summer in the sideboard might be useful against control. I don't like Domri that much, he seems slow and requires a lot of creatures or counter-magic from the other side to pay off in my opinion. Boros Charm and Atarka's Command are very aggressive cards that can be fantastic in zoo or burn, but this seems like it wants to play a slower and more reactive game, so you could swap them out for Collected Company / Chord of Calling and more creatures ( Elvish Reclaimer is a personal favorite, but you should probably go with some creatures from Death and Taxes lists). Otherwise, I like the plan of running either many lands (at least 24) and a few Arboreal Grazer type effects or dorks like Noble Hierarch and a slightly lower curve so you can just plan on dumping your hand and then spinning the wheel with Bloodbraid Elf and Throes of Chaos each turn. Cool deck, love Knight of the Reliquary , Throes of Chaos , and the idea of a true naya midrange deck!
3 months ago
Hold it, I changed my mind about Karona, False God . I'll try & revise this Yidris CHAOS Deck the way I intended it to be. Rules?
Keep the Land Base as it is.
Keep the Talismans, Rings, & Crypt for decent measure. I'll let you decide the fate of the rest of the Rocks.
Aggravated Assault + Bear Umbra are in as they not only allow extra Combat, but this Bear, unlike the entire Bear Creature Type, untaps all your lands for additional Cascades.
Chance Encounter + Frenetic Efreet WILL be a Wincon here, though I'd like several others; including a combo that for CHAOS terms, It's kinda GG if in my favor, but can cost me SEVERELY; almost to the point of a Loss; A True Battle of CHAOTICA.
What Other Coin Flip Effects and/or Random effects would you put in? What other misc. CHAOS Effects would be good also?
On theme w/ Cascade, what cards in Yidris' Colors might be good here, & has Cascade? ( Throes of Chaos , Kathari Remnant , Bloodbraid Elf , Deny Reality , Etherium-Horn Sorcerer & Maelstrom Wanderer are prime, but I dunno about Demonic Dread , Violent Outburst , Shardless Agent , & Bituminous Blast ... your thoughts would be good though...)
I'm at 100. This means I'll have to replace ALOT of stuff. I hope you're ready. I'll put some stuff back in, but I might need some help yet again; at least for the Wincons I described them as such...
Thank you for helping me out. :)
8 months ago
Servo_Token Thanks for stopping by with the suggestions. For the most part Throes of Chaos serves as a replacement for BBE since we're really trying to stick to the creatureless theme (at least mainboard) but I do see where you're getting with this. As means of protection Lightning Axe does serve that function very well so will adjust the numbers a bit and go down throes to up Jab and Harvest.
For Cindervines its really good I agree. Just number adjustments. Really fun though not having targets for OPs creature removal so a great prank for all.
Again thank you very much for stopping by and giving your 2 cents on the deck. :)
8 months ago
Hey bud, just wanted to drop some advice as resident Loam expert.
Your mana base is a little funky for this style of deck. Since you have so many of the triple cost enchantments, Fire-Lit Thicket is a must because it helps you cast either as easily as possible. 2 is enough, but I saw some other guy suggest taking them out without knowing what they're talking about.
You also don't have enough draw lands. I like 5-7 in a two color build. Forgotten Cave , Tranquil Thicket or the horizon lands need to be in here in full force. The cycle lands are about twice as good as the horizon lands, so definitely more of them in the mix.
Some lands to take out: Copperline Gorge and Cinder Glade aren't doing much for you and are kind of a wasted land slot. You're a loam deck, take advantage of that. you can also go down to 2 creature lands.
As far as your main deck goes, Throes of Chaos is a terrible card. Sure, it's fun, but if you want that effect just play Bloodbraid Elf . Throes is really just kind of a waste of mana because you could be doing so many other things. Flame Jab and Worm Harvest can go up in numbers. If you feel like you have to play throes for the fun factor, just play one and use it when you have nothing else to do. Or you can play like Lightning Axe or some other burn.
Anyway, I like the deck, I just think these few little fixes could make it a lot more effective. Have fun Loaming!
8 months ago
Yo! RG decks are interesting. Here's what I think -- feel free to disregard it:
The main attraction of running green is having access to one-mana mana-dorks. Llanowar Elves , Birds of Paradise , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic and Orcish Lumberjack will all speed up your deck tremendously, while giving you bodies for Overwhelming Stampede or similar finishers. Exploration is a good accelerator, though it can be expensive; search for tomorrow is similar. There are some two- or three-mana dorks you might also want to consider, like Priest of Titania , Shaman of Forgotten Ways and Somberwald Sage . Having dorks ramps green faster than any other color is capable of.
Overwhelming Stampede is an excellent card; in that vein, Overrun and Triumph of the Hordes are both good finishers. If you want to put money into the deck, Craterhoof Behemoth is a great card in Legacy Elves that also works here. Grabbing Craterhoof with something like Natural Order can produce a really fast win. Green Sun's Zenith is another good tutor-spell, which can also fetch Dryad Arbor turn one.
I see you're running Nature's Lore . Farseek is a great card to fetch a mountain, especially if you choose to run Stomping Ground , Sheltered Thicket and/or Cinder Glade . Taiga is good, too, but that's pushing $200 these days... effing OG duals.
Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip is a good card, and an affordable version of Gaea's Cradle . Similarly, Slate of Ancestry is a very underrated EDH card that would be a powerhouse in this deck. In the line of card-draw, Beast Whisperer and Harmonize are worth considering.
Karplusan Forest , Spire Garden , Command Tower and Grove of the Burnwillows are four excellent non-basic, ETB-untapped lands for your colors. You should run these, if at all possible. I think they're better than Jund Panorama and Naya Panorama , as well as Rogue's Passage . You should consider Kessig Wolf Run , as well as cutting one or two lands from the final list.
Depending on how sadistic you are, you may also want to consider running some stax pieces. Thorn of Amethyst is an excellent card in most green decks, as these decks tend to produce oodles of mana and not cast too many non-creature spells. Pyrostatic Pillar and Eidolon of the Great Revel are excellent ways to keep low-curved decks in check. Harsh Mentor varies with meta calls, though it can be very strong. Stranglehold can ruin some strategies, and Price of Glory can nuke counter-heavy decks. Similarly, Vexing Shusher is useful to avoid getting countered, especially since you don't have to activate it until after an opponent casts a counterspell. Scab-Clan Berserker is worth considering.
I suggest Gamble . It's the best tutor in your colors. Eternal Witness is another pretty good card you may want to consider to get you back in the game after a board-wipe. I suggest running Grim Flowering or Nature's Resurgence for the same reason.
Your spot removal will be dependent on how hard you want to lean into Ruric Thar, the Unbowed . If you want to keep him, Reclamation Sage and similar effects are the way to go. Without him, or while thinking of him as a secondary creature, you should run Nature's Claim and/or Krosan Grip . Chain of Acid is an interesting card I've been wondering about recently, so you may be interested in experimenting with it. Hull Breach is similar to Decimate , and is often a two-for-one. Shattering Spree , By Force , Ancient Grudge , Vandalblast and Fiery Confluence are good as well.
Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion is an efficient, powerful creature that helps cycle away dead cards in your hand, all while generating mana. Huntmaster of the Fells Flip is another super-efficient creature. Boartusk Liege is valuable for its anthem effect and not-insignificant body. Siege Behemoth is another recommendation, for obvious reasons.
Depending on your meta, Sunder Shaman , Choke , Carpet of Flowers , Flashfires and Boil are options. If you keep your mana-base with only a few non-basics, Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon and Ruination are good cards. If your meta is super aggressive, you should consider Loxodon Warhammer or Basilisk Collar in order to recoup life points. Runic Armasaur is another good consideration if your meta has a lot of fetch lands and the like.
Strionic Resonator is a way to copy your general's trigger, and may be tremendously helpful. Resolving them in succession on the same creature results in quadrupled power.
Alright, that's all I got for now. I hope you found these suggestions at least a little helpful. Good luck with deck building!