Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn.
Dredge 3 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly three cards from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)
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1 week ago
Interesting list, so +1, this is the list I ran a little while ago for Sultai
4 Abrupt Decay1 Breeding Pool3 Courser of Kruphix2 Creeping Tar Pit3 Darkslick Shores1 Dismember2 Forest3 Inquisition of Kozilek1 Island4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip3 Liliana of the Veil1 Maelstrom Pulse2 Misty Rainforest1 Murderous Cut2 Overgrown Tomb2 Polluted Delta2 Profane Command2 Scavenging Ooze4 Serum Visions2 Swamp4 Tarmogoyf2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang3 Thoughtseize1 Twilight Mire4 Verdant Catacombs1 Watery Grave
1 week ago
Ooooh, I really like using Progenitus instead of Akroma, Angel of Wrath. When my Dredge deck was running in competitive environments Progenitus had not been printed yet and Akroma, Angel of Wrath was a metagame powerhouse. Progenitus is much better. Also, I do like the addition of the Gitaxian Probe for the card draw. Dredge doesn't worry too much about it's own life total. It is too much of a combo deck.
I just noticed that you only have 4 cards in the sideboard. Which means you are running 71 cards in the main board. You should really work on getting it down to the 60 card main board that most of us run. It really does impact your card draws and makes the deck run smoother. If I were you, I would look at cutting the Balustrade Spy and the Shambling Shell. The Balustrade Spy doesn't dredge or draw. It is better for use with a Laboratory Maniac which would also be a great Dread Return target. If you are going to return the Spy, you only need one or two. cutting a few other cards down to one, two, or three would lighten the deck and bring you closer to 60 cards.
Also, I notices that have Darkblast and Bridge from Below. These will work against each other. If you Darkblast an opponent's creature, then the Bridge from Below will get exiled from your graveyard which will prevent you from generating the zombie tokens you want.
3 weeks ago
Ok, this looks intesting. Drana's Emissary costs a little much, and needs to stay on the battlefield to have an effect, not great for winning or stalling.
You basically have two options with B/W allies at the moment- the traditional Hada Freeblade/Kazandu Blademaster/Champion of the Parish beatdown. Its pretty straightforwards, and has gained some traction running Collected Company, you'll find examples on this site listed under modern allies.
What it isn't, is budget.
I'd reccomend an etb/flicker deck, as the cards are cheaper, as the diverse common-rarity options keep the price low.
Expedition Envoy/Ondu Cleric/Jeskai Barricade/Lantern Scout/Cliffside Lookout/Cliffhaven Vampire/Kabira Evangel/Ondu War Cleric/Serene Steward/Bloodbond Vampire/Kalastria Healer/Zulaport Cutthroat as core creatures aiming to stall the game, then close out with flicker effects for a lot of etb/ltb effects.
March from the Tomb/Eerie Interlude/Rally the Anscestors/Ghostway/Momentary Blink/No Rest for the Wicked/Proclamation of Rebirth/Faith's Reward/Whip of Erebos/Flickerform/Graceful Reprieve/Return to the Ranks/Makeshift Mannequin/Marshal's Anthem/Stonecloaker to puch out in turns 5-7 with etb triggers.
Some dredge like Stinkweed Imp/Dakmor Salvage/Nightmare Void, Darkblast or Golgari Thug could help provide card advantage throught the 'yard, but would leave you grave-hate vulnerable. The main battle is going to be surviving through and battling against combo, which will always be a weak matchup- but a good sideboard could hate it out with 15 dedicated cards, or focus on other matchups and accept combo as lost.
All told, nice start and good luck tinkering. Hope this big list isn't too intimidating, almost all the effects are similar for your purpsose- just pick and choose the cheaper ones and test the proportions to make sure your hands look nice and have fun testing!
1 month ago
1 month ago
LordSpanky: a couple Abrupt Decay might be nice in here swapping out a Maelstrom Pulse and a Darkblast for them, but Waste Not might not work so well in here with Raven's Crime and Ensnaring Bridge, since they could just force me to draw cards and open the bridge up.
GeminiSpartanX: It does really well against Tron. Zoo is iffy without bridge and Darkblast doesn't do enough against it. Affinity is a little better. Pretty decent against most other control lists as they have a hard time holding anything to stop a helix coming down. Burn is tough, but becomes much easier if you can land a helix with Collective Brutality or Dimir Machinations. The Rack would help out tremendously against most of the tougher matchups.
1 month ago
Hi, Glad you liked my BG-take on smallpox I will report back how it actually plays when I've acquired all the cards for it. I was going to build a BW-smallpox deck just like you but I didn't have Bloodghast and Fetid Heath so I cut Smallpox and went for a deadguyale / BW tokens build.
To answer your question about Liliana of the Veil, it is a great card and really helps with the discard/control aspect. She works well with Dark Confidant in that she allows you to discard extra lands that you happen to draw and he makes sure you don't run out of gas. There are some match ups where she is really bad tho such as dredge.
I have a few questions regarding your deck.
You are running 6 lands that tap for colorless along with 3 Fetid Heath, how often do you get punished for this? Have you given Concealed Courtyard a thought, I also think more Shambling Vent might be better than Mutavault given that it taps for both colors and can help offset the lifeloss from Dark Confidant, the higher activation cost might be a problem tho. I think tron will increase after the release of Fatal Push so I think Ghost Quarter is more valuable than Mutavault if i had to keep one.
Leonin Arbiter + Ghost Quarter works well as to denying your opponent mana, but how does he work with Smallpox? The main reason I cut Smallpox in my bw deck was cause it would have caused me to sacrifice Dark Confidant for that reason it ended up as a dead card in my hand most of the time do you keep yourself from casting smallpox when Leonin Arbiter is in play? Can you pay the mana to search your library for a plains after you've sacrificed your Flagstones of Trokair? How has Path to Exile worked out for you? It ramps the opponent if you don't have Leonin Arbiter in play, has that been a problem?
Have you been satisfied with deathcloud? I've tried it in bg smallpox but more often than not it turned out to be a Smallpox for 4 mana, it might work better in bw since you can keep more lands in play due to Flagstones of Trokair.
How has Sword of Feast and Famine I am running the bw sword in my list for some lifegain and recursion I've been thinking about switching it out for the BG-one tho. The protection seems more relevant and the extra mana would be usefull to cast all the cards you get with Dark Confidant.
I don't really know that match ups you're having problems with but two cards that might be good against burn are Peace of Mind and more copies of Collective Brutality every mode is relevant in that match up.
Myth Realized is another card that I think can be good in a BW pox as it can get huge and you don't have to sacrifice it. Mana Tithe might be a good card since you're running so much mana denial. Spirit of the Labyrinth and Geier Reach Sanitarium is another sweet combo in bw-discard oriented decks as you can make your opponent loot in their upkeep to prevent them from drawing any cards, might just be to sweet tho.
2 months ago
2 months ago
Also RIP keeping zero and Inkmoth only hands in Infect.