Thirst for Knowledge

Thirst for Knowledge

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Draw three cards. Then discard two cards unless you discard an artifact card.

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Double Masters (2XM) Uncommon
Jumpstart (JMP) Uncommon
Commander 2018 (C18) Uncommon
Modern Masters (MMA) Uncommon
Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (DDF) Uncommon
Planechase (HOP) Uncommon
Mirrodin (MRD) Uncommon
Promo Set (000) Rare

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Format Legality
Block Constructed Legal
Highlander Legal
Leviathan Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Historic Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
2019-10-04 Legal

Thirst for Knowledge occurrence in decks from the last year

Modern:

All decks: 0.05%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%

Blue: 0.28%

Thirst for Knowledge Discussion

ZendikariWol on heretic blue tron

4 weeks ago

Not necessarily a competitive guy, but it feels like Thirst for Knowledge is gonna be way better than Mazemind Tome. Not to throw your whole "heretic" thing but, yeah.

TriusMalarky on Gifts Tron?

3 months ago

I was thinking a sort of Reanimator style deck. Using Tron lands as a backup to cheat our big guys into play, and Thirst for Knowledge and Shriekhorn or something to fill our yard. Then we can use Trash and Footsteps as solid 3-mana reanimation to get a lot of value.

Strangelove on Devour For Power

3 months ago

+1 mate!

I think Instead of Magus of the Bazaar and Thirst for Knowledge I like Hermit Druid and Windfall/Whispering Madness/Jace's Archivist.

Also have you considered the classic Simic Sky Swallower? What about Fauna Shaman, Doom Whisperer... or maybe Fathom Mage?

Glistening Oil is a pet favorite.

Icbrgr on Fact or Fiction deck Idea ...

4 months ago

Intended for Modern/Casual FNM (not too competitive playgroup)

With Modern Horizons Legalizing Fact or Fiction I have been trying to build around it and Im having trouble.

Im currently brewing in Mono- Artifacts with Buried Ruin/Academy Ruins for accessing the graveyard.... mainly because I dont have any Snapcaster Mage.

Sword of the Meek with Myrs like Myr Retriever seem kinda neat with Thirst for Knowledge in the mix... also have been tinkering with Throne of Empires + Scepter of Empires + Crown of Empires.

Another direction ive looked into was with Skaab Ruinator/Misthollow Griffin with Laboratory Maniac.

TL;DR

Can anyone give me a decklist/shell and or other ideas for using FoF without Snapcaster Mage... I seem to be stuck.

jaymc1130 on Emry, Lurker of the Loch cEDH

4 months ago

firrlo

I played a half dozen more games with Emry last night testing some iterations. Ultimately I just didn't like the performance of Freed from the Real either. Both of the aura's are a lot more narrow than the Spy, but this is a mono colored deck and we won't have access to Jeskai Ascendancy that is the absolute best combo piece, gotta work with what's available. Pemmin's is staying in though, the protection and utility it offers made for better performance and one piece that works with Lion's Eye Diamond or KCI/Eye of Ramos/Commander's Sphere/Implements of Sacrifice and cost reducers to go infinite is worthwhile as it dramatically increases the consistency of going off the turn or two after casting Emry due to dramatically increased chances of Emry mill hitting relevant pieces to recur.

Mesmeric Orb was actually something I gave a try in my initial incarnations and it's performance was atrocious. Too vulnerable a line to any form of graveyard hate, too clunky, to narrow. The deck still needs some form of ability to make use of repeated Emry activations and draw out though, and in fact the drawing out part is significantly more important than the creation of infinite mana part. Infinite draw always leads to infinite mana, while infinite mana with no command zone outlet is largely useless the majority of the time.

Riddlesmith and Vedalken Archmage did not cut it in the handful of games I played with them in, too slow, inconsistent, clunky, easy to remove. Nor does Rhystic Study in my group, just not competitive enough in terms of the value it tends to generate (drawing typically 2 cards and mostly taxing players' excess mana that isn't needed, in which case cards like Thirst for Knowledge offer better value despite not being competitive enough itself). So somehow Emry needs a way to consistently draw, both for value and to combo out, and moving to Chromatic Sphere/Conjurer's Bauble//Mind Stone type cards with 5 or 6 artifact cost reducers seemed logical. Turns out this has been dramatically more consistent while still fast, though a bit wasteful in terms of card slot efficiency.

Krark-Clan Ironworks should likely be a staple for an Emry deck. It's ability to turn any artifact into an infinite mana generator seriously widens the decks scope and allows more focus to be given to the draw aspect. The additional consistency it's inclusion allows cannot really be understated. I actually have yet to try Phyrexian Altar or Ashnod's Altar though I considered them initially. Ultimately those 2 sacrifice outlets are just too narrow in scope and the combo lines to go infinite are way too convoluted and clunky. It seems to make more sense to use a sacrifice outlet that's going to enable 40% of the deck to become combo pieces. Won't be the combo the deck really wants to look for, but KCI will often be the one it finds with very little effort.

I gave both Magewright's Stone and TYE a look last night in the slot previously held by Freed from the Real and found them interesting. With an active Emry, KCI, and cost reduction pieces to play for 0 mana they generate infinite mana quite nicely. I don't know if the "haste" clause is more valuable than needing one less cost reduction piece to enable the line, but I do like the utility of a hasty Emry in the event my first Emry cast got killed off. It might be worthwhile to run both, but I kind of doubt it. I'm sticking with TYE at the moment.

Scrap Trawler is on my radar as my next idea to test out. Seems like an interesting piece to have around with KCI (I'd initially thought of it as a piece for the Altar pair). Would open up some interesting lines, for example: Tap Mana Vault for , sac it for , sac a tapped Magewright's Stone for , bring Mana Vault back to hand, tap Commander's Sphere for , sac Commander's Sphere to draw a card, bring Magewright's Stone back to hand. With the loop can be repeated with Emry recurring Commander's Sphere infinitely to draw infinite cards and generate infinite blue mana. With a single cost reduction piece in play a dozen other lines open up. With 2 in play basically every card in the deck would generate infinite mana and card draw with only a single untap of Emry required. These lines seemed too convoluted to me at first, but after playing around with the deck some and seeing how often it comes by combos incidentally off a single Emry activation given the dearth of fodder I'm starting to think Scrap Trawler might have a place in the deck (in which case I'd definitely run Magewright's Stone in addition to TYE).

Man, Emry is hella fun to theory craft. Just talking about the possibilities gets my juices going.

As a point of inquiry, how are you liking High Tide and is a line with Candelabra of Tawnos+Minamo, School at Water's Edge worth inclusion in your mind? Is Minamo, School at Water's Edge worth inclusion as just a value piece and if so, what kind of artifact density do you feel is needed to justify it as a value developmental piece?

SideBae on War and Taxes

5 months ago
  1. Your rock suite could use work. I've never found 3-mana rocks (i.e. Chromatic Lantern, Mana Geode, the cluestones) to be very good at all: a two mana rock on turn two means you can land your general turn three (assuming you make a land drop), but three mana rocks rarely speed you up by a whole turn. Consider running some of the following instead: Talisman of Progress, Talisman of Dominance, Azorius Signet, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet, Sky Diamond, Coldsteel Heart, Mind Stone, Thought Vessel... In general, I've found categorically replacing 3-mana rocks for 2-mana rocks is a good way to improve a deck.

  2. I'm not a fan of the anthems route, since it means Skullclamp isn't a viable card-draw engine. That said, if you want to go after the anthems, I suggest Favorable Winds in addition to your other effects.

  3. Mystic Remora is good -- I think it's better than Rhystic Study, but you may want to run both.

  4. I don't know how many creatures you usually have out, but if you have 4+ pretty consistently you may want to run Slate of Ancestry. It's a highly underrated card in token-based decks. Also Distant Melody and Windfall. And Thirst for Knowledge/Thirst for Meaning.

  5. Ponder and Preordain belong in any blue deck. One-drop cantrips that provide card selection don't look like much, and a lot of people write them off as not effective enough, but there's a reason these are both banned in modern and overplayed in legacy. I do think you should run Brainstorm, but if you do you should run at least two more fetches to make sure you don't get locked under the cards you put back.

  6. Winds of Abandon is a card I have never liked at all -- ramping your opponents is often straight-up dangerous in EDH. Consider something like Swords to Plowshares or Harsh Mercy instead.

  7. One combo I think is pretty cool is Counterbalance + Sensei's Divining Top. Both these cards trigger your general, and you can flip top to recast it if you need to squeeze out extra triggers. Paired, they produce a pretty tough counter-wall for your opponents to fight through, which notably does not cost you cards.

  8. Oblivion Ring? I think it's better than Path to Exile, for the same reason I don't think Winds of Abandon is very good.

  9. Cyclonic Rift strikes me as a lot more powerful than River's Rebuke. Being an instant that hits all your opponents is a big deal.

  10. Mentor of the Meek seems like another really good source of card-advantage for you. Like Skullclamp, if you have enough pump out it won't work.

Right. That's all I got.

Good luck

SideBae on Yuriko’s Ninja Tricks

5 months ago

So this deck is marked under 'help,' so I'll list my recommendations. Feel free to ignore any/all of them:

  1. Some of your choices of countermagic seem questionable. Is there a reason you're running Withering Boon over something like Remove Soul or Essence Scatter? I guess the blue spells can be Pyroblast-ed, but I feel like not having to bolt yourself is worth it for the marginal added risk.

  2. You may wish to consider running Preordain in addition to your Brainstorm and Ponder. Like in Legacy Delver decks, it isn't as good since you'd need to top both cards with the scry to guarantee a high CMC flip off Yuriko, but I feel like one-mana cantrips are likely good enough to run regardless.

  3. There are some evasive creatures worth running in Yuriko because their ETB effects are good and ninjutsu bounces the creatures. I'm thinking of things like Baleful Strix, Snapcaster Mage (if you want to invest money), Trinket Mage (which can fetch Sensei's Divining Top, Sol Ring and any other 1-cmc artifacts you want to run), Spellseeker... If you want to go deep, Thalakos Seer works well with Ninjutsu, too...

  4. You might also consider running Conspiracy or Arcane Adaptation. I like Arcane Adaptation a lot more (it costs less mana) but both are good, and if you need a third version Xenograft works. They'll make things like Gingerbrute trigger your Yuriko.

  5. Some 4-cmc instant-speed card-draw seems alright; you leave up mana for a counter, and if you don't need it you get a draw. Consider things like Fact or Fiction, Chemister's Insight, Glimmer of Genius, Frantic Search, Gush, Thirst for Knowledge, Inspiration... They'll ding your opponents off a Yuriko flip and give you something to do with mana you don't need on their end steps.

  6. Idk how competitive your meta is, but consider running Narset, Parter of Veils and/or Ashiok, Dream Render. These two hose card-draw and fetches/tutors, which are all very common as you go higher in deck power level. I especially like Narset, Parter of Veils with Windfall or Timetwister, but that'll depend on your particular moral compass.

  7. Lastly, if you up the amount of artifact ramp in here you can lower the land count and make flipping a land off Yuriko less common. While it may be dangerous to go lower than 30 lands if you're not running things like Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond or Mox Opal (which you should run if your groups allows proxies), you may have luck running things like Talisman of Dominance, Arcane Signet or Fellwar Stone. If you don't land a turn-two general, these'll ramp you for the later game; and even if you do, flipping them off Yuriko's trigger is better than flipping a land.

Right. That's all I got -- let me know if you have any questions.

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