Thirst for Knowledge

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Commander 2018 (C18) Uncommon
Modern Masters (MMA) Uncommon
Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (DDF) Uncommon
Planechase (HOP) Uncommon
Mirrodin (MRD) Uncommon
Promo Set (000) None

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Thirst for Knowledge

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Draw three cards. Then discard two cards unless you discard an artifact card.

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Thirst for Knowledge Discussion

Demonio_de_Laplace on Chain Veil Teferi

2 weeks ago

what do you think about to cut Thirst for Knowledge for Mission Briefing?. i have 2 more options for the cut: a) Negate b) Counterspell

regards

ghgiunco on Tron Transmuter

3 weeks ago

As a Transmuter lover, i feel i need to help hahah

FIRST OF ALL: For Master Transmuter work well, she needs some kind of haster (like Lightning Greaves or Thousand-Year Elixir. Maybe some Spellskite too

Lodestone Golem in a build of artifact rules. Help you to get pressure and slow the enemy. Kuldotha Forgemaster can help you to get the bigboss fast. If you want draw use Thirst for Knowledge over Blue sun's.

JohnnyBoyG on Charging! (infinite turns, charge counters)

1 month ago

Your mana base feels a bit greedy. I know you rarely need colored mana, but when you do, you need a lot of it-you have 7 cards that require at least two colored sources of mana, and you'll need more if you want to play more in one turn. Some of your colorless-producing lands are questionable anyway.

Mirrodin's Core only has synergy with Power Conduit, and it rarely comes up. And the downside is way to severe. If you are using it for colored mana, you can only use it every other turn.

Darksteel Citadel has some uses. You can discard it to Thirst for Knowledge, have it reduce the cost of Stoic Rebuttal, or use it as a sink for charge counters. But overall, these don't actually add much. In particular, you need to have exactly 2 other artifacts, 2 blue mana sources, and a plan for all of your other mana to have it actually synergize with Stoic Rebuttal. (Otherwise you're having one mana unused, which would have paid the third mana anyway.) Overall, it just doesn't help you that much, and it will delay a Winding Constrictor or Stoic Rebuttal more than it does anything good.

Academy Ruins is the most justifiable, and you should probably keep it.

I would recommend using a more traditional mana base, maybe 8 fetches, 4 shocks, 4 basics, 4 fastlands, and 2 Academy Ruins.

multimedia on Need to cut 4 cards, which ones?

1 month ago

Hey, the four cuts to consider: Obsessive Search, Boomerang, Opt and Everflowing Chalice.

Cards to consider as upgrades of current cards:

Cards to consider to cut for these:

  • Twin Cast
  • Deadeye Navigator
  • Reality Spasm
  • Reality Shift
  • Whir of Invention
  • Mind Stone


Driemer84 on Brudiclad's Repurposing Plant

1 month ago

After some testing I've got some ideas for changes.

Control Cuts: Release the Gremlins and Descent of the Dragons. Release is too expensive and not worth the couple tokens in provides. Descent of the Dragons has really only been used to blow up payoff cards on my side of the board like Chasm Skulker. You really only need one 4/4 dragon with Brudiclad to get the payoff since he'll turn whatever into a 4/4 once he's online, and I'm not really a fan of giving my opponents 4/4s even if it means taking out a couple key threats. This leads me to replacements.

Control Replacement: Vandalblast and Blasphemous Act. I think artifact destruction is an important option to have so Vandalblast comes in. I just don't think the 2/2s from Release is worth the mana it takes. Creature destruction is also important so Blasphemous Act comes in so we still have some board control.

Token Production Cuts: Saheeli's Artistry, Stolen Identity, and Followed Footsteps. This part may be controversial, but I think these cards are too expensive. Artistry and Stolen Identity may still be worth it because they create the token immediately, but I had mentioned earlier that relying on opponent's creatures isn't the best game plan. They either aren't something you want to create a bunch of or they are legendary. Followed Footsteps doesn't give you a payoff until your next upkeep. Too much can happen in three other players turns for me to want to spend 5 mana on it.

Note: Supplant Form is sticking around for now because I think the fact that it's instant speed and a form of pseudo removal make it worth while.

Token Production Replacements: Cackling Counterpart, Fated Infatuation, and Twinflame The downside here is that they all only target your creatures, but they are all half the price, and two of them are instant speed. I want to tune the deck to be more self reliant which is why I'm ok with having to target my own creatures. I realize Twinflame's token exiles at the end of the turn, but with Brudiclad online it won't matter.

Value Creature Cut: Reef Worm I've had Reef Worm on board and destroyed a couple of times, but the tokens always turn into something else more powerful before I've ever had a chance to work up the chain.

Value Creature Replacement: Feldon of the Third Path Stuff is going to die. Feldon is perfect for taking advantage of this. I haven't had a chance to test him yet, but I think he has great potential.

Payoff Cuts: Phyrexian Processor, Utvara Hellkite, and Godo, Bandit Warlord I think Phyrexian Processor is too slow and expensive. Karn, Scion of Urza is what we want for this effect. Utvara Hellkite can create some silly boardstates, but I think Sharding Sphinx does it better at two less mana. I'm not 100% on this one, but it's casting cost is really what does it for me. The last cut here I'm not 100% on either. Godo gets cut because it's also expensive and only goes infinite with Helm of the Host, unlike Combat Celebrant and Lightning Runner. I realize Godo always gets Helm, but to cast and equip is still 11 mana in one turn. To have Brudiclad on board, cast Godo, and equip helm is a lot to ask.

Payoff Replacements:Wurmcoil Engine, Timestream Navigator, and Bane of Bala Ged. Wurmcoil is a durable threat with value leftover if it dies. Timestream Navigator can provide us with infinite turns if we get a token copy onboard. Bane of Bala Ged is something that can really clear up a board if you're able to make an army of these. Tidespout Tyrant is something else I've thought about, but we aren't guaranteed to be able to cast a few spells after we have an army of Tyrants.

Miscellaneous Cuts:Mechanized Production and Mox Diamond. Mechanized Production I'm not that sure about. Obviously it has win the game written right on it, but 4 mana to copy a thopter or gold or treasure, which is most likely what we're going to want to copy because of the sheer number we can produce, isn't all that exciting. Mox Diamond comes out because we don't need the super early game ramp and we aren't abusing it with Paradox Engine or something. I'd rather make the land drop that put Mox Diamond on the board. With a 6 drop commander, the land is usually just as good.

Miscellaneous Replacements: Pongify and Rapid Hybridization Cheap ways to deal with opponents creatures, a way to blow up Wurmcoil Engine or Chasm Skulker. These cards someone make up for the loss of Descent of the Dragons too.

These changes bring the average cmc from 3.51 to 3.32.

This leaves me with a handful of cards I'm still considering. Draw Potential Additions: Ponder, Impulse, Intuition, Thirst for Knowledge, and Frantic Search It's important that we find a payoff or a way to make a payoff a token so I think the deck could use some added digging. I think the most powerful of these are Intuition, Thirst, and Frantic Search because it can put some payoffs in the graveyard if you have Feldon online.

Payoff Potential Additions: Inferno Titan, Frost Titan, Hangarback Walker I'm not sure they're necessary, but they could be fun additions. Inferno Titan is the better of the two titans, but I think it's worth talking about them both. I like that the deck is starting to diversify threats. Cutting Godo and Utvara because we have better extra combat and mass token producing payoffs in cheaper creatures. Inferno Titan kind of lines up with Bane in the permanent removal department, but it's damage can go to the face. I'm not sure Frost Titan provides much, but I thought I'd mention it. I guess it could potentially shut a player down for the next turn. I really like Chasm Skulker, and I think Hangarback Walker would make a great addition as a redundant effect.

Lands Potential Cuts: Inventors' Fair and Academy Ruins These are lands I was testing out because artifacts, but really our deck is just a bunch of rocks. The Mimic Vat and Helm of the Host are about the only cards I'd want to activate either of these lands for, but I'm not sure I think the cost is worth it. More testing may be required, but I'm not sure I've been in the situations where I must tutor for a Helm or give up a draw to get helm back.

Land Potential Replacements: Command Beacon, Scavenger Grounds, Strip Mine Right now I don't have an extra Command Beacon or Strip Mine. Command Beacon seems great for a 6 cmc commander. Scavenger Grounds and Strip Mine are just great utility lands, but I'm not missing out on too much without them for now.

On the other hand, Desolate Lighthouse has been great for digging when there's nothing else to do, and Kher Keep is another great token producer at 2 mana a pop.

FLATSO99 on Reaper King Deck List

1 month ago

If your going for flicker Thirst for Knowledge could go for Eerie Interlude

Driemer84 on Anything You Can Do... : Brudiclad EDH

1 month ago

Daedalus19876: No problem in the delay! So I've gotten a few more games in and I have some major changes to talk about. I'd love to hear some feed back and correction on my thought process. Incoming wall of text.

Control Cuts: Release the Gremlins and Descent of the Dragons.
Release is too expensive and not worth the couple tokens in provides. Descent of the Dragons has really only been used to blow up payoff cards on my side of the board like Chasm Skulker. You really only need one 4/4 dragon with Brudiclad to get the payoff since he'll turn whatever into a 4/4 once he's online, and I'm not really a fan of giving my opponents 4/4s even if it means taking out a couple key threats. This leads me to replacements.

Control Replacement: Vandalblast and Blasphemous Act.
I think artifact destruction is an important option to have so Vandalblast comes in. I just don't think the 2/2s from Release is worth the mana it takes. Creature destruction is also important so Blasphemous Act comes in so we still have some board control.

Token Production Cuts: Saheeli's Artistry, Stolen Identity, and Followed Footsteps.
This part may be controversial, but I think these cards are too expensive. Artistry and Stolen Identity may still be worth it because they create the token immediately, but I had mentioned earlier that relying on opponent's creatures isn't the best game plan. They either aren't something you want to create a bunch of or they are legendary. Followed Footsteps doesn't give you a payoff until your next upkeep. Too much can happen in three other players turns for me to want to spend 5 mana on it.

Note: Supplant Form is sticking around for now because I think the fact that it's instant speed and a form of pseudo removal make it worth while.

Token Production Replacements: Cackling Counterpart, Fated Infatuation, and Twinflame The downside here is that they all only target your creatures, but they are all half the price, and two of them are instant speed. I want to tune the deck to be more self reliant which is why I'm ok with having to target my own creatures. I realize Twinflame's token exiles at the end of the turn, but with Brudiclad online it won't matter.

Value Creature Cut: Reef Worm I've had Reef Worm on board and destroyed a couple of times, but the tokens always turn into something else more powerful before I've ever had a chance to work up the chain.

Value Creature Replacement: Feldon of the Third Path Stuff is going to die. Feldon is perfect for taking advantage of this. I haven't had a chance to test him yet, but I think he has great potential.

Payoff Cuts: Phyrexian Processor, Utvara Hellkite, and Godo, Bandit Warlord I think Phyrexian Processor is too slow and expensive. Karn, Scion of Urza is what we want for this effect. Utvara Hellkite can create some silly boardstates, but I think Sharding Sphinx does it better and two less mana. I'm not 100% on this one, but it's casting cost is really what does it for me. The last cut here I'm not 100% on either. Godo gets cut because it's also expensive and only goes infinite with Helm of the Host, unlike Combat Celebrant and Lightning Runner. I realize Godo always gets Helm, but to cast and equip is still 11 mana in one turn. To have Brudiclad on board, cast Godo, and equip helm is a lot to ask.

Payoff Replacements:Wurmcoil Engine, Timestream Navigator, and Bane of Bala Ged. The first two are obvious. Bane of Bala Ged is something that can really clear up a board if you're able to make an army of these. Tidespout Tyrant is something else I've thought about, but we aren't guaranteed to be able to cast a few spells after we have an army of Tyrants.

Miscellaneous Cuts:Mechanized Production and Mox Diamond Mechanized Production I'm not that sure about. Obviously it has win the game written right on it, but 4 mana to copy a thopter or gold or treasure, which is most likely what we're going to want to copy because of the sheer number we can produce, isn't all that exciting. Mox Diamond comes out because we don't need the super early game ramp and we aren't abusing it with Paradox Engine or something. I'd rather make the land drop that put Mox Diamond on the board. With a 6 drop commander, the land is usually just as good.

Miscellaneous Replacements: Pongify and Rapid Hybridization Cheap ways to deal with opponents creatures, a way to blow up Wurmcoil Engine or Chasm Skulker. These cards someone make up for the loss of Descent of the Dragons too.

These changes bring the average cmc from 3.51 to 3.32.

This leaves me with a handful of cards I'm still considering.
Draw Potential Additions: Ponder, Impulse, Intuition, Thirst for Knowledge, and Frantic Search.
It's important that we find a payoff or a way to make a payoff a token so I think the deck could use some added digging. I think the most powerful of these are Intuition, Thirst, and Frantic Search because it can put some payoffs in the graveyard if you have Feldon online.

Payoff Potential Additions: Inferno Titan, Frost Titan, Hangarback Walker I'm not sure they're necessary, but they could be fun additions. Inferno Titan is the better of the two titans, but I think it's worth talking about them both. I like that the deck is starting to diversify threats. Cutting Godo and Utvara because we have better extra combat and mass token producing payoffs in cheaper creatures. Inferno Titan kind of lines up with Bane in the permanent removal department, but it's damage can go to the face. I'm not sure Frost Titan provides much, but I thought I'd mention it. I guess it could potentially shut a player down for the next turn. I really like Chasm Skulker, and I think Hangarback Walker would make a great addition as a redundant effect.

Lands Potential Cuts: Inventors' Fair and Academy Ruins These are lands I was testing out because artifacts. But really our deck is just a bunch of rocks. The Mimic Vat and Helm of the Host are about the only cards I'd want to activate either of these lands for, but I'm not sure I think the cost is worth it. More testing may be required, but I'm not sure I've been in the situations where I must tutor for a Helm or give up a draw to get helm back.

Land Potential Replacements: Command Beacon, Scavenger Grounds, Strip Mine Right now I don't have an extra Command Beacon or Strip Mine. Command Beacon seems great for a 6 cmc commander and I notice you are already running it. Scavenger Grounds and Strip Mine are just great utility lands, but I'm not missing out on too much without them for now.

On the other hand, Desolate Lighthouse has been great for digging when there's nothing else to do, and Kher Keep is another great token producer at 2 mana a pop.

Thanks for reading if you made it this far!

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