Debt to the Deathless
Each opponent loses two times X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
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Debt to the Deathless Discussion
3 days ago
I personally love Torment of Hailfire just as much as Debt to the Deathless. The issue is blacks mana ramp. In order for it to be lethal you need >=. since Sacrifice and Dark Ritual aren't options in modern it may be a bit difficult getting to your alt drops of Karn, Ulamog, or Ugin. I'd replace Ulamog with Desolation Twin. You get 2 10/10s and while not having indestruct. it is a pro/con.
The other thing is that Chromatic Star and Exp. Map seem expensive for what they are doing. While this deck is mono, I'd still splash in Orzhov Signet or Dimir Signet instead of these. It gives you black mana, and you're not doing a 1-for-1 trade from colorless to black.
I'd also add Warping Wail into this deck. While it can only counter sorceries. The other card to consider to help lock down your opponent until you can get hailfire out is Torment of Scarabs. Otherwise +1
4 days ago
Legion's Landing gives you another turn one drop for the deck, flips onto mana acceleration or token generation (for a fairly steep cost unfortunately).
You're currently running seven nontoken Vampires. Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle gives you a potential continuous token generator. Sangromancer could support Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle and be very interesting depending on how often you can pull off a "make my creatures indestructible and Damnation," but it's probably too cute to make the cut.
Bishop of Rebirth feels like the five mana Sun Titan you've been looking for since it can recycle 22% of your deck. Dire Fleet Ravager feels like a way more mana efficient Debt to the Deathless for your deck.
6 days ago
Debt to the Deathless,Torment of Hailfire, Torment of Scarabs, Thran Dynamo, Sol Ring. These are all cards that would work well in your deck IMO.
The first two could be finishers as long as your paying enough mana. The second helps to hold back an opponent and the latter two are staples for colorless mana production. I'd also consider adding 1-2 of the signet artifacts of the colors you need the most.
1 week ago
Have you considered splashing for W and going for Obzedat, Ghost Council? He is only 1 more CMC and also tend to stick boards very well. Life Drain included!
2 weeks ago
As I've been playtesting this deck it is still ok for non-competitive modern. I've been toying with getting Debt to the Deathless, Torment of Hailfire, Torment of Scarabs.The original deck would win around turn 5-7, which is alright for non-competitive, but I've been looking to to decrease that by 1-2 turns. Both Debt to the Deathless and Torment of Hailfire can hit around turn 4-5 with decent effect. Hailfire is the desired win effort though, since even if they don't choose life-loss they'll be either clearing their board or hand. Top-decking or an open field are both extremely helpful to this deck.
3 weeks ago
@Frog - I've considered Whip and I may end up trying it. I wanted to add Exquisite Blood but my LGS is out so whip is a good alternative.
@Kalki - I'm not sure how competitive Edgar can actually be in multiplayer (1v1 is a different story). But if I was going to try I'd definitely go the Gravepact/Dictate of Erebos route with more sac outlets like Phyrexian/Ashnod's altars. I'd have more empthasis on black, a lot less reliance on combat, and I'd have more mana doublers like Cabal Coffers and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx etc with some good outlets like Exsanguinate and Debt to the Deathless as alt wincons.
3 weeks ago
Oh you're absolutely right, Debt to the Deathless deals double, I missed that in the big type-up ha. The color dedication still stands for me though, but damage-wise you're right.
Sanguine Bond is much much better than Exquisite Blood, it's not even funny how much damage it can deal to a target opponent. I actually just removed the paragraph detailing these cards from my description as I've been editing since your last comment, but I didn't include Sanguine Bond precisely because it was too effective and targets only one player. Vizkopa Guildmage does the same but for every opponent, I feel if everyone loses it's a bit more fair. If you do play Sanguine Bond, consider Blood Tribute as well, maybe a bit mean but you can outright kill someone with it (just checked and you already have it ;)).
I've just taken out Exquisite Blood because I felt it was a bit unnecessary, better to add in some more removal or protection for Licia. Perhaps in the late-game it would be more useful but let's be honest.. Licia will tear people apart early enough.
I hadn't considered Queen Marchesa at all! I guess because I initially started with a Vampire tribal so I never considered others.. The Monarch is something I have been considering in other decks of mine to help with draw so this is pretty interesting, Adds a little more Politics and the keywords help with Odric as well yeah! Nice find, I'll have to take a look at what to cut out for her.
3 weeks ago
thanks Bou for the big answer!
I understand the choice for bond of agony, even if I don't find it that useful. By the way, Debt to the Deathless with actually deals 4 damage to each opponent and you gain 12 life points because the damage is doubled up (that's why it's such a good card). for 6 CMC that's the same as exsanguinate, and the difference goes up a lot after that.
By the way, if you're more on the planning side of things, you can consider Queen Marchesa. Gives you the crown, deathtouch haste for Ordic, and is pretty cheap for her power(unless you want her in foil). People don't often consider her in the 99 but I think she can be quite good.
On my table, people underestimate Licia a lot, seeing how poorly she does in the precon deck. They didn't touch mine until she was a 28/28 indestructible. That was pretty fun!