Debt to the Deathless
Each opponent loses two times X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
|Want (4)||deman464 , Eudaemoniac , SaltyCaptain , sdebeer|
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|Dragon's Maze (DGM)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Debt to the Deathless occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
WB (Orzhov): 0.73%
Debt to the Deathless Discussion
1 month ago
flyinggrizzlybear Thanks, glad you like it. I am trying to decide how I want to "code" it and what items are relevant, so I don't really have a timeframe for when that will be done. As for the Stoneforge Mystic and the equipments, they don't help the decks goal or advance it. Cards like those are better suited towards more voltron/equipment style decks. In this deck, I would have to remove some of my control or life gaining advantage cards to add them in. Thanks for the suggestions though, I greatly appreciate any feedback!
The win con in the mainboard right now is Debt to the Deathless and Felidar Sovereign as the instant win. The general strategy is to disable my opponent's plans for as long as possible then finish it off with one of the two, or grind it out with my bigger creatures. You are correct about the avg cmc being on the higher end, but I designed the main board to allow me the ability to play with non cEDH decks and not be overbearing. This makes the mainboard a little slower for cEDH. The sideboard is what I am looking at if power increase is needed. Adding in cards like Walking Ballista with the mainboarded Heliod, Sun-Crowned makes and infinite damage outlet while cards like Linvala, Keeper of Silence disables commanders like Thrasios, Triton Hero and Trickbind stops Protean Hulk. So I am looking into enhancing the decks power from my sideboard if needed. I am open to making direct swaps into the mainboard as there are cards like Divinity of Pride that aren't doing as much as other cards in the deck. I am on the lookout for cards to change things like that out for something with lower cmc. As for the Ad Nauseam, I would have to think about other cards to add in to the deck as well. It isn't as good alone, and the deck that you linked to is built more around it. I did have it in the sideboard along with Angel's Grace and Laboratory Maniac, but found that the deck doesn't run well trying to accomplish that combo and it is easily disrupted. I am looking for lower costing cmc variations to cards in the deck if you have anymore suggestions though. Thanks for the feedback, I greatly appreciated it.
2 months ago
I would swap out Debt to the Deathless for Elesh Norn... while i like the card, i feel like it doesn't do enough to bring your opponents down, while the mass influx of life just paints a target on your back. Also, after going over your list again, you could afford to pull out Fellwar Stone in favor of Arcane Signet.
2 months ago
Added Phyrexian Altar and Anointed Procession and took out Debt to the Deathless and Open the Graves . I have Ministrant of Obligation somewhere, I just haven't taken the time to look for it. Do you guys think Whisper, Blood Liturgist is what should come out? I like the recursion, but he is a little slow.
3 months ago
suggestions: Hissing Miasma -> Ghostly Prison , Bitter Revelation -> Necropotence . Buried Alive doesn't fit in a deck with no recursion. Shade's Form makes a poor win condition. you have to attack and get though and it can only eliminate 1 player at a time with a massive resource investment to do so. Torment of Hailfire Exsanguinate and Debt to the Deathless are much better. good life gain payoffs are Karlov of the Ghost Council Crested Sunmare and Archangel of Thune that give you big rewards just for you opponents playing spells while kambal is out.
4 months ago
Seraph of the Scales seems like a good addition. I have thought about that one or Elenda, the Dusk Rose before. I have won games with Debt to the Deathless before, but I could see cutting it for something else. It may just be a "win more" card, and Seraph is more on theme.
Haha I see what you mean about Generous Gift not matching the aesthetic, but it can remove anything. In my Meta I really need all the removal I can get, since some decks will combo off pretty early if no one removes an important enchantment or something quickly. This deck takes a little bit of set up before it starts going off and I want to make sure I can get there.
Thank you for the input! Good suggestion!
4 months ago
Personally I like Knight of Sorrows and Seraph of the Scales . As for what to take out.... Hmm personally I'd drop Debt to the Deathless because I don't love how high a Mana cost it has and Generous Gift ... That one is a decent card but it doesn't match the aesthetic of the rest of the deck which bothers me lol also you have a decent amount of removal so I don't think you need one that gives your opponent something.
4 months ago
Here are some creature cards I'd like to add soon:
Dusk Legion Zealot , Cordial Vampire , Cruel Celebrant Knight of the Ebon Legion , Vampire of the Dire Moon , Changeling Outcast , Vampire Cutthroat , Duskborne Skymarcher . Lastly Purphoros, God of the Forge for amazing damage potential when i get the spare cash.
Some other cards I would like to get are the following:
Some Cards I'm considering:
Finally some Wishlist cards I hope to get sooner or later, but are more pricey:
4 months ago
Other notable cards to add,