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Whenever a nontoken creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may pay . If you do, put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of that creature. That token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
Flameshadow Conjuring Discussion
15 hours ago
Have you considered Flameshadow Conjuring ? Cause even one of could do you a solid work.
6 days ago
3 weeks ago
Cool, i like it. Unfortunately i've never seen or read (or played the computer game) Dune so i'm not quite sure if im getting the flavor. But thats cool. Hazezon is my favourite commander actually.
I found the way to run over all your opponents is token doublers. I would suggest Parallel Lives is a better choice than Doubling Season . There is only the Sarkan walker that gives your guys +1+1 counters, you arent getting the value out of the enchantment and its CMC is 5. You're better off with Parallel Lives or Anointed Procession . But the best token doubler is Flameshadow Conjuring is the best i find. If you have an extra red mana to spare you will create a token copy of hazezon until end of turn, sacrifice the real one to the legendary rule. The card is two for one, sac outlet and token doubler.
Cathars' Crusade is bananas too. If you got tons of land and a token doubler, you'll get some monstrous tokens. I've dealt over 700 damage with that thing, enough to kill off every player in the LGS at
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
Since the Pioneer format had been introduced Felidar Guardian has only seen play for 14 days, and while the Saheeli Rai + Felidar Guardian combo was too profound for the meta to deal with I think it would have been worthwhile to see what the cat would do without it's fellow planeswalker for a variety of reasons.
First off Pioneer is currently going through a grace period where Banned and Restricted announcements are being put up weekly on every Monday. If another secondary broken card interaction would surface with the cat it would be very easy for Wizards to correct the problem swiftly unlike with other formats where it would take months before dropping the banhammer.
Secondly Saheeli Rai as a card is hardly going to see play in this format without the cat, which means there probably isn't going to be a lot of problems for tier 1, 2, and 3 decks if she's missing.
But most importantly, no one is asking the question, "What would be the next broken card interaction Felidar Guardian would slot into?" I actually have the answer to this one and it's Flameshadow Conjuring .
Combo Explanation: Flameshadow Conjuring + Felidar Guardian works similarly to its preceding combo with Saheeli but not as straightforward. Conjuring is on the field and then you cast the Guardian. At this point in the combo we always stack ETB's so Guardian's resolves first and the Conjuring's resolves last. Guardian blinks a red source such as Mountain or alternatively Clifftop Retreat effectively untapping it. Then we can tap the blinked red source to produce the mana needed to resolve the Flameshadow Conjuring 's effect. This in turn produces a token copy of the cat, however, the token copy does not retrigger Flameshadow Conjuring , so instead, whenever a token copy enters the battlefield, we'll have it's ETB target the original Felidar Guardian . The original cat blinks causing both it's ETB and Flameshadow Conjuring 's ETB to trigger again. Repeat the process by resolving triggers in the same order as mentioned before with the cat blinking your red mana source until you have infinite hasty cat tokens to deal lethal with.
I think this combo should have at least a single day where it's legal in this format to see how it stands against other decks. The cons to this combo-strategy are that it takes one turn slower to deal lethal than Saheeli, it's weak to both instant-speed and sorcery-speed artifact and enchantment removal, and lastly you need to restrict your mana-base so that you always have a red source that can instantly produce red mana for free. I feel that these set-backs are enough to give other decks a better shot at combating copycat combo, and if the combo is still too degenerate then it would probably be worth banning Felidar Guardian instead of taking down more cards due to it.
Wizards has also said they banned the cat because they're afraid it would conflict with design space for future sets. I think this is not a realistic concern given the power-level of today's standard sets. In order to make infinite cats you're going to need a permanent that can readily produce a copy of Felidar Guardian with haste for 0 or 1 mana on your main phase, and that permanent needs to cost 3 or less mana in order to get a turn 4 kill. I think this is an incredibly high requirement that won't be surpassed in standard ever again. Even if Wizards reprinted the Modern-banned Splinter Twin card into standard, while it could produce infinite hasty cats, they'd all be tapped and you'd be unable to win the game unless you had something like an Impact Tremors on the battlefield, which; even that combo would never be used, because Felidar Guardian + Impact Tremors + Mirror Image would be a better combo.
My opinion is if Pioneer can't handle a turn 5 copy-cat combo that's weaker to more forms of removal then Felidar Guardian should be banned for good. Otherwise removing an entire deck strategy when there are much weaker variants to run in its place seems wrong to me. Thoughts?
1 month ago
Blood Sun will help your tri-lands enter the battlefield untapped so you won't have to wait until the next turn to use them. Yes, Blood Sun causes these lands and lands like them to lose the "enters the battlefield tapped" quality.
Worldgorger Dragon is an absolute beast just waiting to be abused. Combine it with an enchantment like Flameshadow Conjuring or another creature such as Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and you can perform an infinite loop of enter the battlefield and leaves the battlefield triggers. Combine this with Dragon Tempest or Scourge of Valkas and you have infinite damage. With Lathliss, Dragon Queen it can produce a ton of tokens (this isn't infinite as the tokens will be exiled with each cycle). Temur Ascendancy will net you massive card draw, and so on. It's so abusable.
Anyway, hope some of my recommendations helped!
1 month ago
king-saproling great suggestions. I plan on playtesting Skirk Prospector Flameshadow Conjuring and Commune with Lava . I tried Feldon of the Third Path for a long time and always found it too slow and dependent. Some other suggestions seem a bit expensive but I'm going to try them out!
Mortarpod Love that list, lots of goodies in there. Especially good ways to recur and flicker creatures which I've needed more of - I'll try some things out. Creature tokens is an interesting idea. My only concern is that makes me a little more dependent on actually drawing an ETB pinger, but probably a good call!
2 months ago
Flameshadow Conjuring occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%