Daedalus19876 Janklord Supreme

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DrkNinja: Sure but those wincons are less slot-efficient. Every slot matters in cEDH, it’s best to avoid useless-outside-of-winning-scenario cards if possible.

(That info is also in the primer if you read that section.)

Rambolicious_0: I've considered it?

But I'm already currently Tinker ing with one artifact-based combo deck (The Dark Tower: Circu Citadel cEDH) and I'm enjoying that more (though I do think that Urza is stronger).

I don't have a cEDH meta currently so I don't have a strong incentive to build something quite that high-power.

KailDaemon: Or with Etherium Sculptor .

Deck seems...okay overall? Could still use some optimization, but you've got some neat tech.

Your interaction seems relatively lacking here - You're running Disallow and Arcane Denial , neither of which really sees any cEDH play, but no Spell Pierce , Dispel , Delay , or even Counterspell proper.

It lacks Timetwister (I'd expect it given that you ARE playing Tabernacle, so price doesn't seem to be a concern) and I'm not sure why Mindslaver is in here. Shrine of the Forsaken Gods should be a Strip Mine , and I'm honestly rather astonished at the lack of powerful stax pieces such as Grafdigger's Cage and friends.

(I also generally don't tag my decks as a primer until, you know, the primer is written, but...)

SynergyBuild:

Urza Paradox Scepter

Commander / EDH* sickrobot

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Merchant Scroll and Fabricate seem like good tutors!

(Also, I have to ask - Sleight of Hand but no Impulse ?)

No The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale or Sphere of Resistance , given that Urza's ability offsets their taxes? I'm also curious about the inclusion of Legacy's Allure , is that meant to steal something specific?

Kholan95 at al: I'm afraid you might be waiting a while, I no longer update this list since I took it apart :(

MeagherMan101: Somewhat! Karn's Bastion has been better than Contagion Clasp overall, and Finale of Devastation has been awesome, but haven't gotten to try Evolution Sage much yet, though the initial testing was so-so. I'll keep you updated.

OptimalGreen: Oh, that's DEFINITELY going in. No question, I'm slamming it into the list. Only downside is that I need a foil and that's not gonna be cheap >.<

Sanguisuga: The issue is that 1) that combo kills you as surely as your opponents, and 2) your creatures die from the damage after the first time they get hit. Let's imagine I have 4 creatures plus Zada, and I cast Lightning Bolt on one of the tokens. The first token takes the damage, then it spreads to every other creature I control and deals 3 to each player. Those creatures die, but each chain 3 more damage to each player. I've dealt 15 damage to each player, including myself, and killed all of my tokens (and probably all creatures my opponents control). I'm not interested in that effect when it kills my whole board and damages me equally.

eagleneb91: Yeah! I was considering pulling this deck apart, but I might end up keeping it specifically for that and the new Pyromancer XD

Oh, and also - if you try Blood Moon in here, I'd also try Back to Basics . Often better in my experience, though it does affect us more.

zrob: I've been devoting more time to my The Dark Tower: Circu Citadel cEDH recently, haha (I'd love your thoughts). But I'll eventually make it back to working on Locust God, I promise! ;)

Your points are valid, and I'll tweak. This modification was mostly a first pass.

(Nothing more hilarious than Stifle on a T1 fetch, though. Heh.)

zrob: If it were me, this is roughly where I'd try going from your list. This also might be where I go with my list if I ever decide to rebuild it (or update it).

Still missing Volcanic Island , which neither of us seems to own, lol.

If you ever decide to add Pyroclasm , I'd also test Volcanic Fallout , see which one works better for you.

zrob: Excluding changes to the landbase, those I'm a little less in agreement on. The addition of the other fetches is obviously a good idea (and something I've actually done IRL), but I'd rather have Academy Ruins over Command Beacon , along with a few other changes.

zrob: Honestly? Looks absolutely great; that’s very very close to the changes I’d make. The only adjustments I’d personally make are:

1) Simian Spirit Guide back in, since it’s very good with wheels and allows cleaner wins with Kindred Discovery . Possibly over Metalworker ; how many artifacts do you generally find you have in hand?

2) Verity Circle in, possibly over Rhystic Study (neuters mana dorks and has additional utility with Opposition , though this one is meta-dependent).

(Also, since that list looks pretty heavily based on mine, do you mind linking this list in the description?)

But honestly the changes you made are completely and utterly sound, especially where you replaced high-CMC spells with cheap interaction; I may end up borrowing most of those alterations and implementing them here :)

Nahgg: Honestly, this list is currently disassembled and on hiatus IRL, because I moved all of the expensive pieces to my The Dark Tower: Circu Citadel cEDH list. However, both Narset, Parter of Veils and Narset's Reversal have been all-stars there, so I'd absolutely run them here if this list were still updating. Not least because wheeling with Narset out is essentially an instant win! ;)

I'm going to retweak and modify this list in the future, btw. It's just not the current highest priority.

My first thought would be to reduce the number of lands you control that enter the battlefield tapped. They're a significant issue for this deck IMO, since WB doesn't have access to especially good acceleration as-is. Your enchantment suite is good, though I'd be cautious about Luminarch Ascension (I wouldn't run it without Cataclysm in the deck).

I find that Damnable Pact is generally a bad return on card draw; I'd run something like Vampiric Tutor to grab Skullclamp instead. I'm not convinced by The Elderspell here unless you play in a meta with a significant number of PWs (this deck isn't generally one where you want to eat your own PWs to get a boost in loyalty). Careful with Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet - he can sometimes backfire when you'd rather get the death trigger than the token. Swords to Plowshares is significantly better than Path to Exile in this deck. I'd cut one land for Fellwar Stone , probably. I'm surprised not to see Lightning Greaves in here, since it's good at protecting Elenda from the dreaded exile effects. The other glaring exclusion is Toxic Deluge , which is an INCREDIBLE board wipe for this deck (since you can tailor it to not kill Elenda under most circumstances, and immediately gain back far more life). I'm curious if you've considered Bolas's Citadel , since it works very well with Pox -style effects in a deck like this that can gain back life. From your maybeboard, I'd most highly recommend Fleshbag Marauder , Hero of Bladehold , Merciless Executioner , Reaper from the Abyss , and Sadistic Hypnotist .

Hope that helps! Deck looks pretty good to me ;) and I'm flattered by you linking my primer in the description!

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"Consistently winning" how much interaction does your meta play?