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Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
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Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Discussion
1 day ago
Sorry I should have clarified. I meant how I helped TheErebos not asking him for advice. To go with your questions.
How well do you know cEDH? You do know that unless your running a combo deck multiple pieces of cards as a win con is too slow. You said you want to make a Boros color as competitive as possible. The cards you listed are not optimal and subpar.
You mentioned that you want to build a value town/stax(prison) hybrid. You are delving into combo pieces and not part of the lines you set your self up for. The main reason I listed the partners as commanders is because in a competitive meta life is a valuable resource if your going against Ad Naus type of decks the pressure Akiri gives is great. Having all the mana rocks in addition to stax/hate pieces will boost up her power and rack up damage as well as staxing the board. You break parity by gaining additional creatures for the value and go hatebears to swing and chip away at their life slowly while Bruse helps micro manage and enables higher outputs of damage.
- Aven Mindcensor
- Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
- Containment Priest
- Ethersworn Canonist
- Magus of the Moon
- Imperial Recruiter
- Recruiter of the Guard
- Treasure Nabber
- Vryn Wingmare
- Eidolon of Rhetoric
- Hokori, Dust Drinker
- Hushwing Gryff
- Linvala, Keeper of Silence
- Sanctum Prelate
- Spirit of the Labyrinth
- Thalia, Heretic Cathar
- Harsh Mentor
- Cursed Totem
- Defense Grid
- Grafdigger's Cage
- Mana Web
- Null Rod
- Orb of Dreams
- Sphere of Resistance
- Static Orb
- Tangle Wire
- Thorn of Amethyst
- Torpor Orb
- Tsabo's Web
- Ward of Bones
- Winter Orb
- Blood Moon
- Blind Obedience
- Price of Glory
- Aura of Silence
- Porphyry Nodes
- Rest in Peace
- Rule of Law
- Stony Silence
1 day ago
Hello, TheErebos. Someone suggested to you about a certain thing; but I'm unsure if you'd agree w/ my cause...
Commander / EDH*
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Yep. cEDH Boros. I was using Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, switched to Aurelia, the Warleader, & now Partners Akiri, Line-Slinger & Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder. My deck is based on three archetupes: Value Town, Stax, & Prison (Though that might just be another part of Stax.). I wonder if you are interested in this kind of thing; I believe Boros can win w/o going Aggro at all. I intend to try & bring these (& potentially Aurelia 1) to Tier 3. While there are things lack in some ways, I believe they can improve on such ideas in their own way...
Also, I wonder how one can Break Parity, & what Parity even is. I just wonder if these are the right CMDRs for this... (Both are on at least Tier 4.) What options would you recommend for this; given I have stuff that Combos out (Eldrazi Displacer, Fiend Hunter + Sun Titan, Potentially many others.), & stuff that locks down opponents Glowrider, Vryn Wingmare, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance, Winter Orb, Static Orb, Icy Manipulator, Grafdigger's Cage, Ashes of the Abhorrent, Stranglehold, Kismet, among many others all apply here. What do you think might be a better combo for Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric than Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool? What do you think is best here for reaching CMC 2 or less here? Also, would Village Bell-Ringer + Smoke help here? Finally, this'll sound stupid, but I'm thinking of a Design for a Partner Commander Related Mat; but I dunno how to make it GP/Pro Tour Legal. Ideas, if any?
4 days ago
Aphoticate sometimes, more often then I would like to admit (like with every single comment of yours), I think you are a cEDH poser and have no clue as to what you are talking about.
I mean really, Kess Stax?
n0bunga - Yeah, Consultation is wildly considered a better version of Grixis Twin due to the increased consistency. A lot of the deck is just more of the ramp, card draw, interaction, tutors, etc. that the Twin Combo took up.
DangoDaikazoku, that sucks man, I would love to see one when you can though. I am not invested enough in cEDH to keep up with the current meta, and honestly haven't played since a week ago, but that is because I have had some IRL stuff taking precedence.
Soren841 never claimed they weren't good, just that a Damping Sphere can hinder any one of them enough to triple Time Walk them for unless they can reasonably counter it or Abrade it immediately. Without that, they need to tutor an answer often, which though only takes 1-2 turns, it then takes 1-2 turns for them to storm off again, same with a lot of other tax effects.
If you drop a Trinisphere after the Damping Sphere was removed (or Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance, Stony Silence, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Rule of Law, Stasis, Arcane Laboratory, etc.) they can be effectively drop-kicked in the jaw turn after turn.
Sucks man, I love storm, just can't trust it won't get staxed out. More midrange combo like Yisan can get around a lot, but are too slow to get out of other removal, and a cursed totem is a death sentence. Even decks like Animar that can make stuff cheaper still fall to a lot, and the only other fast decks that handle stax super well are like Hulk/Food Chain/Druid that can get around a lot, are either so fast they can go off like turn 1-2 before the heavy hitter stax cards hit the table, are unaffected by Trinisphere or Rule of Law like many Hulk combos, or have so much interaction to stop the hate, and opposing interaction, and also so much consistency like Kess that they can play the combo and control player at the table.
This covers a lot, I mean Sisay/Teferi are the stax decks, Najeela, Tazri, Kess, Thras/Tymn, and Yisan are already gone over, in tier one at least on this list only Frogger wasn't covered.
Frogger is such a card combo to hate out, while yes, you can totally think of it as a graveyard deck and run your Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void, but not much else will affect it, like Grafdigger's Cage isn't gonna do a ton, is it? Scavenging Ooze and the Ravenous one can do some... but the one Gaea's spell that acts as the Eldrazi Titan can still survive it, so it'll be fine a lot.
5 days ago
NOTE: This is a topic regarding cEDH Boros. If you think there is no hope for it, do NOT post on this. (The Bold should be warning enough...)
After trying to cut some stuff to 100 for some things, I realized, there is some others to do regarding one deck:
Commander / EDH*
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I previously wanted this to be Tier 3, as one joke cEDH deck (Depala, of all things.), did this. But this is a serious attempt by all means. That said, I'll mention some things worth note to get at least just a little bit closer to my goal:
- Red Elemental Blast, or Pyroplast?
Both of their most recent prints state their abilities differently. Pyroblast has:
Choose one — • Counter target spell if it's blue. • Destroy target permanent if it's blue.
Red Elemental Blast?
Choose one — • Counter target blue spell. • Destroy target blue permanent.
This seems written differently; but I dunno how this is different from the others. Regardless, cEDH usually smiles upon . So I'll leave it to you to decide...
This is a biggie. One person not known for cEDH believes this is a real dud of a wincon. But I'd like some opinions o this. If this really does suck, at least that's 3 cuts so far. Aside from this, Grand Abolisher does wonders here.
This is new as I found that Magistrate's Scepter is just one target for counters; something I know FOR A FACT Boros is NOT good at in the slightest (There, a minus. See? I can agree w/ you too. 0-^) Prototype Portal can imprint any artifact; which can range from an infinite mana via Lotus Petal, or Infinite Turns w/ Ugin's Nexus. Problem? I have little to nothing to destroy the copy is opposed to exiling it. Plus, this is quite expensive; but I don't want to use Final Fortune + Sundial of the Infinite loops; they can be disrupted; besides, this is the only option left (Gonti's Aether Heart is more expensive anyway.). Bonus points for infinite mana in case Ugin's Nexus is a skip. I'll let you decide.
- How the bloody devil is Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite a staple?!
I'm confused about this; happy, but confused. Usually stuff lower than 3 CMC would be fine; but one cEDH Staples lists actually lists her on the main list. runs Dorks, & so few even reach a 3+ toughness. Should I get rid of her for CMC's sake? or should I keep her as a Gamekiller?
W/ so many doing stuff outside of Lifeloss/lifegain, this should be very important to note as others would either Self-Mill via Laboratory Maniac, Maze's End a game, basically put; Wincons that don't depend on Life Total. So, should I put in stuff like these, Goblin Chainwhirler, or other things that can kill life totals? Otherwise, I at least have Altar of the Brood to mill everyone else... XP
After knowing about creatures outside of that can produce Mana, I decided Neheb, the Eternal is no longer enough (It actually requires Damage dealing to make it work; so, I'm thinking of cutting him; considering nobody really wants to damage anyways.). While I could flicker [Farrelite Priest]] & make her new, w/o previous memory, I want to leave it to you; w/ so much Devotion to , Should I rather increase the amount of Plains & decrease the number of Mountains? (I have Blood Moon Anyway...). If she is crap to you, I want to know why; I cannot run Avacyn's Pilgrim you know.
Yes, I get it. Tamiyo's Journal is the only Target of this inspector. That said, Tamiyo's Journal can search for anything. Problem? One target. Not consistent enough, & nobody is recommending a card like Tamiyo's Journal that can also work on its own... Ideas are welcome.
This combo came to me in the form of an Epiphany. After I blow up all lands, I can flicker Fiend Hunter exiling Sun Titan to bring all my lands back; yes, this is possible. Since Lands are 0CMC Permanents, I can bring them all back to my side. even a combo like this can't be stopped by the next part of this charade...
Some of the best cards in this deck so far. It promotes a Prison-Lock for all Graveyards in play. Since this deck should be able to have effects that bypass both of these; I just want to know what to cut due to these...
- I still need an explanation for Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool.
This also applies to what I can use for Arcane Laboratory in . This combo has been looked up, but I dunno how it'll work here... It should be useful, but I dunno if it's cEDH competitive or not; much less how it works. If this is good both ways, I'm keeping them. At least tell me how it works, please...
- Squee Sucks?
Squee, the Immortal + Goblin Bombardment was meant to be used as a combo here. But since this uses Eldrazi Displacer to flicker ETB/CIP Creatures, I'm thinking of cutting the former 2 unless I can find a card that mimics Displacer's effect, so I don't have to have just one of such effect to waste... Felidar Guardian?
- The Emancipation Proclamation NEVER happened...
Emancipation Angel is something not to be cross with. She can return any permanent you control to your hand. Simple as that. Since it's an ETB ability, Eldrazi Displacer can bounce her, & she can do this again. If you want a list of Creatures in my deck that are ETB/CIP based, SUGOI! LET'S KICK As- Captain Janeway: Asteroids. Seven of Nine: Fun will now commence.
(Yes. I LITERALLY pulled off a Star Trek: Voyager.)
Duergar Hedge-Mage Fiend Hunter Goblin Chainwhirler Goblin Settler Imperial Recruiter Mentor of the Meek Mikaeus, the Lunarch Priest of Urabrask Recruiter of the Guard Solemn Simulacrum Sun Titan Thraben Inspector Village Bell-Ringer Wall of Omens Wily Goblin
(Damn, that's a lot... I need to lessen the lot...)
- No Paradox Engine? What the crap?
Paradox Engine is the only thing I have to Isochron Scepter imprinting Dramatic Reversal, so it NEEDS to stay; plus, I could've sworn it was a staple here... While this has quite some ETB/CIP effects, that doesn't have to mean things can't be cast either. Even stuff like Sunforger when casting instants are still considered cast. Even Mistveil Plains can bring them back. I really just wanted to throw in Reito Lantern, though; but cards like Grafdigger's Cage might mess w/ it; so it's now a skip.
- Stax on STACKS on [email protected]
Recently, I wanted to take this deck to a differing route; Value Town/Stax/Prison. This in turn meant a lot of stuff; Glowrider, Thorn of Amethyst (How fitting as it's my birthstone; but I still hated how STEVEN UNIVERSE personified her as a character since the beginning... :/), Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Ethersworn Canonist, Kismet, even Sphere of Resistance is damn good here. While a lot would think stuff like this is crap here, even stuff like Stranglehold, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Grand Abolisher, even Ugin's Nexus & Defense Grid are all great here. Irony? Many wouldn't see all this as competitive enough. So, w/ all that said, one last thing...
- Any ideas for a new CMDR?
Alright, we're almost done with what might be my longest post here ever... I've been thinking for the longest time; I need a new commander; Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is too much now. Since I took the liberty to change from Stax/Control (Or Value Town/Stax? I dun remember...) to Value Town/Stax/Prison. From there, I decided to make a change of CMDR. But there were bigger flaws w/ most, so I decided to make some regulations:
- No Tier 5 CMDRs.
- No Tribal Commanders (Stuff like Depala, Pilot Exemplar apply here.)
- Partners are only Allowed if not from BBD (Battlebond) (Khorvath Brightflame + Sylvia Brightspear for instance is not allowed.)
- Equipment/Aura Based CMDRS are out; I don't have any of that anyway...
I guess this is alright? The reason I left out 5. It must be Aggro Based is, well, the rest of the Tier 4s w/o only counting none of them.
Now I leave all this to you: What should I cut for a legit Tier 3 cEDH deck? I apologize for the Mammoth Sized Text, but it should be worth the effort.
I am open to Constructive Criticism only. I hope this is of good help for what is worth of help to me. I'll let you decide on my fate on this deck now.
5 days ago
hkhssweiss Thanks for the helpful suggestions! I feel like I can include many of these. Some of them I had considered previously, like Flagstones of Trokair, Gaddock Teeg and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, but ultimately took them out for price reasons. When Dominaria released, Mox Amber was absurdly overpriced, but now seems like a reasonable upgrade. I overlooked Mistveil Plains when building, and seems like great recursion for the deck. I had Selvala, Heart of the Wilds in the deck, but later removed it for another commander deck, and buying another copy was too expensive.
Over time, I believe I will put more money into the deck by buying more expensive upgrades. I will definitely take all of these into consideration, thanks for your time.
5 days ago
mrblue424 Have you ever considered running Gaddock Teeg as a way to stop your opponents? You won't be able to cast like 8 of your spells, but it would hold your oppponents more back than you. Some other legendary lands that could be included is Flagstones of Trokair as an untapped plains or Mistveil Plains to reshuffle your legendary cards from your grave into your library. I also feel like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds does well to break parity as you will most likely be guaranteed to have a bigger presence with your tutoring online. Another one would also be Thalia, Guardian of Thraben as a majority of your deck is creatures. Mox Amber is also great ramp that is tutorable and will almost always be active!
Hope that helps!
1 week ago
Sylvan Advocate doesn't seem good at all. You won't have 6 lands until turn 6, and even then a 4/5 on turn 6 with bigger man lands isn't very impressive.
You need a plan on how to beat decks like UW Control or Tron. Neither of those care about creature removal. Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, in particular, seems troublesome. Your creatures aren't strong enough attackers to pressure Teferi's loyalty and you'll 2-for-1 yourself trying to burn him down if you have 2 burn spells to use.
1 week ago
ZendikariWol you say Seedborn Muse, a 5 buck card is worth 1 million dollars, then recomment Vampiric Tutor, a 50 dollar card, Demonic Tutor, a 22 dollar card, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, a 10 dollar card, Rhystic Study, a 15 dollar card, Snapcaster Mage, a 64 dollar card, and Arachnogenesis, an 8 dollar card.