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Jarad's Orders Discussion
4 days ago
Hi, I am trying to put together a golgari reanimator sacrifice deck and I am having a lot of trouble shaving it down to my 99. Currently I am trying to decide on a good list of tutor cards I currently have Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Fauna Shaman, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Buried Alive, Eldritch Evolution, Dimir House Guard, Jarad's Orders, Liliana Vess, Perilous Forays, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Rune-Scarred Demon, Tooth and Nail.
If you could help me decide on a good list, want to help shave other cards out or have a few suggestions on cards to add that would be wonderful.
1 week ago
Perusing the internet this morning, I came across the "seven by nine" rule. If your not familiar with it, you can check it out here, under note three - http://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/building-depietro-depauper/
Anyways, I found it quite brilliant. I broke out my EDH deck (The Cairn Nel Toth) and decided that it needed a serious overhaul.
I decided that my nine "slots," if you will would be the following:
Sacrifice Fodder (CMC 1 or less)
Sacrifice Fodder (CMC 2)
Sacrifice Fodder (CMC 3 or greater)
Utility/assorted random cards
So i started sorting the piles, and quickly realized I had too many cards for some slots, and not enough for others. I started the long, laborious, and painful process of cutting cards. I couldn't quite cut enough cards from the utility pile, so I decided I would have nine utility cards, and only six distinctly self-mill and CMC three or greater sacrifice fodder cards, because a lot of other cards can do those things in addition to doing their main purpose (if that makes any sense).
Anyways, I'll list the cards I have for each slot (its quite different than the original deck). Also, many cards serve multiple purposes, so I'm putting them in the category of their MAIN purpose.
Self-mill - Golgari Grave-Troll, Life from the Loam, Altar of Dementia (The best card in the whole deck, hands down. Not even kidding. Every Meren deck should run this card), Mesmeric Orb, Grapple with the Past. I need one more card for this slot (Stinkweed Imp?).
Sacrifice Outlets - Ashnod's Altar, Skullclamp, Attrition, Mind Slash, Evolutionary Leap. I don't love one-off sacrifice spells, but I have the slot for one. I've been debating between Altar's Reap, Morbid Curiosity and Eldritch Evolution.
Thoughts? What cards should fill my unfilled slots? Any cards I should replace?
1 month ago
My Meren duel commander deck started out much the same way, a budget deck based on the pre-con with a couple dozen cards I had lying around that fit the deck and has grown from there. I am going to throw a couple of cards I think you might want to run in no particular order but feel free to take a look at my deck and make some comparisons.
For a start I would look at your instant-speed removal. Fatal Push, Dismember, Abrupt Decay, Go for the Throat and Smother are all cards I would run in any duel commander deck in golgari colours though Smother only really gets good once you are in a competitive meta where fast games keep the average CMC of creatures low enough to keep Smother relevant.
Since you are already running Buried Alive/Jarad's Orders and Victimize I strongly suggest you run Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion as a way win the game on the spot. Mike and trike are individually powerful cards and mike especially synergies very well with most of what a Meren deck is trying to do in general. More often than not you don't even need Trike to win with Mike in play. Another great wincon for Meren is Blood Artist.
Overall I think you creature count is a bit low, though I can understand that you are making room for stax pieces. In no particular order take a look at Lotleth Troll, Scavenging Ooze, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Wood Elves and Thragtusk. Each one of those creatures are all-stars in my deck.
I worked out after much testing that cutting all non-creature mana acceleration was the way to go, but your mileage may vary.
1 month ago
Replacements:Extractor Demon, Kessig Cagebreakers, Overseer of the Damned, Pathbreaker Ibex, Satyr Wayfinder, Sepulchral Primordial, Verdant Force
1 month ago
Baconcube- Right? My friend pointed it out to me a while ago, and I fell in love ever since. It's hard to pull off in my playgroup because everyone knows about it, but since I added top, it's amazing.
Tremblayk19- To me, entomb isn't worth the slot. If this was mimeoplasm or Karador, Ghost Chieftain, then grabbing key creatures for my deck would be different. I may try it later, but for the moment, the deck feels more than fine with Buried Alive and Jarad's Orders. Both which are often casted after sidisi is out anyway and I started the mill train. Skullclamp and Bloodghast don't do enough in the deck at all. Skullclamp doesn't warrant enough draw on it's own for me to run it, as there's not many 1 toughness guys that I'd want to sac to it and not just Birthing Pod away. Bloodghast runs into the same issue that Prized Amalgam does for me. They both don't impact the board, or give me the utility I need. When I look at a creature, I want it to ramp, impact the board, or provide utility. The only creature that doesn't do that for me is Nightveil Specter, but that card is sentimental to me.
1 month ago
long over due on sending this comment to you, I apologize for that, but here we go.
the first thing that I notice is Terastodon is not here, and some cards your running have other cards out there with better value.
I've never been a big fan of Bloodgift Demon, especially if your cheating him on the field with the dragon, it feels bad...card draw is easier done...Greater Good would not be bad seeing as though you have the recursion for it.
notables that maybe you missed.Beast Within , Krosan Grip, Viscera Seer, Jarad's Orders, Disciple of Bolas, Reanimate, Return to Dust, Ashnod's Altar, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Victimize, Blood Artist....just throwing some cards out there. there are many ways to go about any deck, and its all going to come down to what you like, and what you are comfortable with. you have enough mana to play your deck, but looking at the list, you don't really have any meat till the end. your source of win is beat face as often as you can, while trying to minimize the amount of blockers stopping you, casual play thats fine...I play a bit more competitively and build decks with a little more to them i'd have to atleast throw in a few ways to just win a game.
Craterhoof Behemoth with a few creatures could get you in there with commander damage...with tokens could crush everyone on at the table, or Tooth and Nail put any 2 creatures straight to play...Triskelion + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed...drop the mic, walk away from the table. you just won.
1 month ago
This is an awesome decklist! I've always wanted to craft a Kamigawa-themed EDH deck, maybe this'll be my inspiration...
That said, I'd like to suggest some cards to help raise the power level of the deck.
Swords to Plowshares is a cheap unconditional removal spell, which you definitely need more of.
Animate Dead is a fantastic card that fits with your commander and has some soulshift possibilities to go with it.
Eldritch Evolution is a powerful creature tutor card with a negligible drawback considering your commander's ability and soulshift. It synergizes rather well, I think.
Jarad's Orders is a double creature tutor that dumps one into your graveyard to be recurred later. Plus it's the cheapest of the cards I've suggested.
1 month ago
Cool idea, but I think you go too far on the counters. At some point it treads into win-more territory and out of being well-rounded. You need more interaction in modern. Drop Bioshift for Fatal Push, and even your whole sorcery package for Abrupt Decay and Maelstrom Pulse. I see what you're going for with Jarad's Orders, but a 4 cmc "do nothing the turn you play it" is too slow for modern, so is Corpsejack Menace unfortunately. Frankly, the difference between 13 and 26 counters on beatstick is irrelevant. I'd run Satyr Wayfinder so that you're more likely to have fuel to scavenge, and/or Grisly Salvage.