Creature — Horror
When Mindslicer is put into a graveyard from play, each player discards his or her hand.
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1 month ago
forneyt My budget for this deck is higher then I would usually spend because I want it to be able to play in cEDH games (it doesnt have to be a win all the time deck but good enough to sit at the table). However cards over $80-100 each are probably a get if I can thing but a hard sell to spend $ to the wife. As my play group goes, I dont have one. Covid destroyed it. We are just now starting to open back up here in Vegas so I have no idea what I will be walking into at my LGS.
I would love Mana Crypt but I just don't have one and I only have Mana Vault in there for a early commander ramp. The Charcoal Diamond bugs me because of the comes into play tapped and that seems to slow for cEDH.
Possessed Portal is a win con if it resolves. By the time I get that out they should have almost no resources in had if not already hellbent. With my commander out as well they cant even top deck and everything they sac goes to me. The 8 cmc can be rampped as well I can even shave it down to 6 and protect it with Dream Devourer . Vilis, Broker of Blood I just do not personally like. The cmc means I would need to animate him out and I rather do that on more important targets. The card draw I could get from running Necropotence at a much cheaper cmc (still up in the air about that one though). He seems like a large amount of resources to just get returned to hand or countered just like Sheoldred, Whispering One and I rreally like her.
I do like Waste Not probably find a place for it.
So you might have something there. I didnt want to run Chromatic Lantern because of the cmc. Everflowing Chalice I like because it starts at 2 and at any point of the game if I draw it I could put more into it if i had the mana to spare. The Blood Moon situation is problematic so I might just do that, maybe in place of Mana Vault if i decide to drop it all together.
Yes the maybe board is stuff I am considering as well as stuff I have pulled out. I like Gary and still may run him after I get my first 100 settled and tested I will move it around.
Geth's Grimoire may be a possibility. However I dont like the idea of giving the other players more answers. I want the hellbent and top decking much sooner then later.
Living Death is a card I may cut, I am not sure yet. I like the idea of all their boards getting sacked and becoming my creatures and I also get my graveyard back. Death Cloud is a win con. Mindslicer is the same kind of thing (with a sac outlet) I get all their permanents. Without a sac outlet I can beat away or hold as blocks. That is why I like this commander so much, "your stuff is my stuff.. Thanks!"
Dark Depths only works with Thespian's Stage . Vesuva enters as a copy so would have the counters on him. Thespian is already in play when copied so no counters. Either way this seems too meme for me :-)
I did notice a big flaw that you pointed out .. I have no sac outlet so Miren, the Moaning Well High Market Phyrexian Tower any of those might be a good add. I like Deserted Temple but it is close to that to expensive area because I dont have one.
Thank you for taking the time to give some help and advice, I appreciate it.
1 month ago
I'm not sure what your playgroup consists of, or what your budget is, so I'll just rattle off some cards and (if needed) their budget alternatives, as well as what I would suggest replacing.
Chromatic Lantern in place of Everflowing Chalice : Lantern fixes your lands that tap for colorless (or cabal coffers before you get it going), and keeps you from getting wrecked by Blood Moon by giving your "Mountains" the ability to tap for black.
I already see some other great cards in your maybeboard: Dark Confidant , Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Thoughtseize , and Necropotence among them. Confidant is "draw" without the "draw", which can be an important distinction for certain cards (cough cough Chains of Mephistopheles cough cough Nekusar, the Mindrazer cough cough). Gary is an alternate wincon and also replenishes your health after you drain yourself with your own cards. Thoughtseize basically is "I want this card in your hand" with your commander, and Necropotence is just a broken card that gives you more cards than you can cast.
I feel like your deck may be missing some draw power, so I would suggest Geth's Grimoire , the previously mentioned Vilis, and Howling Mine / Mikokoro, Center of the Sea . With all the discard potential, these last two shouldn't be a problem if your opponents get a couple cards!
For any combo of the above suggestions, I would consider cutting Living Death , Death Cloud , Tangle Wire , and Mindslicer . My reasoning for these four specifically is that they are too mana costly and also negatively affect your boardstate in a way that doesn't put you ahead.
Lastly, I have some land suggestions that I am unsure what to cut for because you already have a decent selection. High Market is a great land, along with its alternate, Miren, the Moaning Well . Deserted Temple can be an extra Cabal Coffers or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . If you like to take risks, you could include Dark Depths for the classic Vesuva / Thespian's Stage combo!
1 month ago
Why no ghostform combo?
I also can highly recommend Aura Thief , Mindslicer and Night Incarnate . Spore Frog also does massive work. And you should think about Siren Stormtamer to counter stuff like bojuka bog or tormod’s crypt
1 month ago
darkbuff: I just don't have enough consistent Zombies...
Profet93: Bloodchief is pretty great, honestly. It shuts down a lot of infinite combos, and gains a lot of incidental life. Not to mention cracking Mindslicer . But it's not central to the deck's plan, so it sorta goes in and out. I'm actually considering cutting Jeweled Lotus, especially since I haven't bought one yet and I don't want to pay that ridiculous $$$ cost.
2 months ago
Hymn to Tourach Why: I've been looking for more instances of discard for the deck
@Profet93 as a side note some cards im looking at including into the deck here shortly after some conversations wit ha couple buddies in the play group are as follows
Sedgemoor Witch ----> cut: IDK, i like the card because it makes tokens(think Tavesh/Skullclamp/Smokestack)
2 months ago
If you want to make it more competitive, it might not be sexy, but the first and most important thing imo ist to lower the mana curve: For every card, ask yourself if a cheaper card exists that does about the same.
1-Mana Mana Dorks over more expensive stuff. they also fuel Meren really early, which really gets her going
Golgari Findbroker - too expensive. Meren does, that already
Zulaport Cutthroat - the deck doesn't look like it wins via this, so you don't need it
Blood Artist - same
Syr Konrad, the Grim - same - maybe I underestimate the chip damage from these but I really dislike these Cards, because the don't do anything unless they stay araound for a long time. If you only deal 20 damage to the table with blood artist style cards, which seems generous, you still don't win.
I would rather have a more reliable win condition, a combo to end the game asap or a really powerful value engine, that gives you the staying power, paired with a bit of stax, Mindslicer comes to mind, while you get some kind of beatdown (I like Creakwood Liege , Craterhoof Behemoth with a bit of a board also kill one to two people quite quick) or stuff like a few Kokusho, the Evening Star or Gray Merchant of Asphodel triggers.
Nature's Claim - my pet card
2 months ago
Also, have you thought about trying Mindslicer ? Another card that discards everyone's hands (no draw though). But could be effective depending how you use him. You can play him and sac him right away, etc.
2 months ago
Well, first you should get some protection since Muldrotha tends to be a huge target. Kaya's Ghostform , Diplomatic Immunity and Curator's Ward are some really nice and cheap pieces. You should also play some cards to mill yourself and some free sac outlets. Hedron Crab and Altar of Dementia are some awesome choices. Altar of dementia also forms an infinite mill combo with Kaya’s ghostform and Lotus Petal . If you want to play it controlly, Night Incarnate is nice to wipe out entire decks like tokens, elves or goblins. Can also be used at instant speed if you have a sac outlet on the table. Seal of Doom and Seal of Primordium also provide you with options to remove key cards or combo pieces during your opponents turn and at instant speed. Cards like Aura Thief and Mindslicer are extremely effective in Muldrotha too. Mindslicer takes your opponents the ability to deal with your stuff while you cast everything from your grave. Aura thief always has some nice stuff to steal, think of propaganda, rhystic study, mana doublers or even Theros gods. I could go on with suggestions but I think that’s enough for now. If you’re interested in more feel free to check my primer. It’s not a budget deck by far but plays a lot really good and inexpensive cards too.