Creature — Horror
When Mindslicer is put into a graveyard from play, each player discards his or her hand.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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3 days ago
Last_Laugh: Sorry for the late response to the suggestion! Sac outlets like Altar of Dementia are good in almost any deck. For most creature-based Muldrotha decks, sac outlets are a godsend that allow you to sacrifice your creatures so you may replay them. For my deck though, I have fewer creatures than standard for Muldrotha decks, and of the creatures I do have, perhaps the only creature I would ever need or want to sacrifice with Altar of Dementia is Eternal Witness. All other creatures are designed to stick around or can sacrifice themselves. Altar has two applications outside of just sacrificing creatures: milling and protection against exile effects. In my experience, exile isn't so common that it warrants running Altar, and the mill effect can be hard to take advantage of (it requires Muldrotha to be on the field) and has better alternatives.
I like the combo you found with it though! I might add it to my "Potential Combos". For now at least though, I'm trying to avoid infinite combos in the deck; I personally have more fun without them.
As for Gravebreaker Lamia, I talked about it in one of my previous comments but I find it too limited for the five mana investment: not being able to replay it every turn makes me much rather run Sidisi, Undead Vizier. Also, I already have several tutors in the deck that I think are better in most circumstances. It's a great card in general though!
Amyas: Thanks for your suggestions! I love finding new cards that I didn't even realize existed and these two fit the bill. The only reason I might not run them though is that they seem too slow for what I'm going for. Jester's Cap simply doesn't do enough for 6 mana and is most useful against combo decks, but against those I would want something lower costed. Personally I find that Ashiok, Dream Render and Opposition Agent accomplish a similar task by just not allowing your opponents to tutor for powerful cards at all. They only cost 3 mana and hurt all of my opponents at once. Praetor's Grasp is also a good card with a similar effect. It only exiles one card and isn't replayable, but the flexibility in being able to tutor something for yourself as well makes it pretty good.
Jester's Mask seems a bit better, instant speed hand disruption is always nice, but the fact that it enters tapped is a deal breaker for me. Again, it's just too slow for my meta. It seems like a fun politics card though! If you like this card and also run sac outlets, you might also consider running Mindslicer. It hurts all of your opponents and you can still play your own cards with Muldrotha.
2 weeks ago
Suggestions ans thoughts regarding your development based on my games and changes so far so far:
Plaguecrafter I found it to be immensely useful against planeswalker-focused decks which I didn't really have an answer to before but is still perfectly fine as a mini sacrification forcer. I just got Graf Reaver from a booster, but I don't know if the targeted removal will do any better. I think not, mostly because most players habe three planeswalkers at most.
I also use Reassembling Skeleton to make my life easier while I haven't found Winding Canyons or Vedalken Orrery yet. Sacking it in loop for two mana a pop to force the enemies to sacrifice is much easier than to try and spare my creatures for the perfect moment. If no sacrifice pact is on the field, it still makes good use of excess mana.
Helm of Possession is also nice to get rid of opponents creatures, or just to pull in more sac fodder that isn't even ours. It's not as cheap as I'd like though and doesnt scale particularly well. I haven't tested how it plays but I think it could work out.
Mind Slash works as a supplememt to sadistic hypnotist and replaced grief for me. I didn't like grief for its high recasting cost, so I put this in and throw cheap stuff at it.
Consider Library of Leng to make the effect of Mindslicer completely irrelevant to you. I saw that you removed the reliquary tower; I did the opposite and additonally play a Thought Vessel. Is there a reason you removed the tower? I think it has no downsides.
For the last part I currently run Nullpriest of Oblivion but consider replacing it with Doomed Necromancer. They're both cheap enough and I like to have yet another cog to protect Liesa (well, or get her back for cheap), as well as fetch stuff that went in the graveyard unprotected.
I really like the Tourach, Dread Cantor you put in, I think I'll get him as well. Not sure if I'm willing to pay the 25 bucks for the Stoneforge Mystic, it doesn't seem powerful enough to me. I also removed Alms Collector and didn't miss him so far.
3 months ago
Trying to oppress your opponents and not running all the super strong oppression cards that Muldrotha can abuse? Where’s the Contamination? Where’s the Mana Vortex?!? You could be running Opposition Agent and Mindslicer. Make it a 2v1v1 and run Mindslaver! There are still a lot of options left to really be degenerate and oppress everyone.
4 months ago
@Ardees Thanks for the suggestions! I didn't really even think about practical uses for cards other than the hulk combo lines. Wouldn't Triskelion with Mikaeus be good also in cases where people are expecting Ballista?? Also I haven't played in a year so I wasn't sure on how often people see Witherbloom + Chain coming, thanks for letting me know. ;) And I forgot that Mindslicer existed, that and Dauthi would be great with Dina on the field (that's pretty gross tbh for those games that heading past turn 4)
4 months ago
In my optmized Meren Surgical Toolbox [2K22] I run Protean Hulk to fetch for Mikaeus and Walking Ballista and another sac outlet (Carrion Feeder or Viscera Seer). I've found no use with Disciple of the Vault or Melira other than the combo, which is not the case for Walking Ballista (can ping low creatures such as birds of paradise or elves).
Cool deck nevertheless!
5 months ago
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6 months ago
forneyt My budget for this deck is higher then I would usually spend because I want it to be able to play in cEDH games (it doesnt have to be a win all the time deck but good enough to sit at the table). However cards over $80-100 each are probably a get if I can thing but a hard sell to spend $ to the wife. As my play group goes, I dont have one. Covid destroyed it. We are just now starting to open back up here in Vegas so I have no idea what I will be walking into at my LGS.
I would love Mana Crypt but I just don't have one and I only have Mana Vault in there for a early commander ramp. The Charcoal Diamond bugs me because of the comes into play tapped and that seems to slow for cEDH.
Possessed Portal is a win con if it resolves. By the time I get that out they should have almost no resources in had if not already hellbent. With my commander out as well they cant even top deck and everything they sac goes to me. The 8 cmc can be rampped as well I can even shave it down to 6 and protect it with Dream Devourer . Vilis, Broker of Blood I just do not personally like. The cmc means I would need to animate him out and I rather do that on more important targets. The card draw I could get from running Necropotence at a much cheaper cmc (still up in the air about that one though). He seems like a large amount of resources to just get returned to hand or countered just like Sheoldred, Whispering One and I rreally like her.
I do like Waste Not probably find a place for it.
So you might have something there. I didnt want to run Chromatic Lantern because of the cmc. Everflowing Chalice I like because it starts at 2 and at any point of the game if I draw it I could put more into it if i had the mana to spare. The Blood Moon situation is problematic so I might just do that, maybe in place of Mana Vault if i decide to drop it all together.
Yes the maybe board is stuff I am considering as well as stuff I have pulled out. I like Gary and still may run him after I get my first 100 settled and tested I will move it around.
Geth's Grimoire may be a possibility. However I dont like the idea of giving the other players more answers. I want the hellbent and top decking much sooner then later.
Living Death is a card I may cut, I am not sure yet. I like the idea of all their boards getting sacked and becoming my creatures and I also get my graveyard back. Death Cloud is a win con. Mindslicer is the same kind of thing (with a sac outlet) I get all their permanents. Without a sac outlet I can beat away or hold as blocks. That is why I like this commander so much, "your stuff is my stuff.. Thanks!"
Dark Depths only works with Thespian's Stage . Vesuva enters as a copy so would have the counters on him. Thespian is already in play when copied so no counters. Either way this seems too meme for me :-)
I did notice a big flaw that you pointed out .. I have no sac outlet so Miren, the Moaning Well High Market Phyrexian Tower any of those might be a good add. I like Deserted Temple but it is close to that to expensive area because I dont have one.
Thank you for taking the time to give some help and advice, I appreciate it.