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Creature — Horror
When Mindslicer dies, each player discards their hand. (Dying is being put into the graveyard from the battlefield. Tokens enter the graveyard before they cease to exist.)
IHATENAMES on Meren, currently
6 months ago
Demon of Dark Schemes reanimation and a boardwipe
Any number of sac ramp creatures. A few examples Neverwinter Dryad Diligent Farmhand
Fog on a creature Spore Frog
Dread Return reanimation
Free sac outlet on cheap creatures Viscera Seer Carrion Feeder
Puppeteer Clique reanimation of an opponents threat (also works with persist combos if you choose to do that)
Midnight Reaper Grim Haruspex card draw upon death of a creature Liliana's Standard Bearer situational card draw
Mindslicer hate on blue players. Everyone discard their hand.
Mausoleum Secrets instant speed tutor
Victimize sac a creature return 2. Very good reanimation
For a few additional ideas take a look at My golgari deck it has a lifegain theme that won't translate but many off the cards beyond that might be good includes.
Dete on Greven Lifelink
10 months ago
= Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar,Plunge into Darkness, Dark Confidant, Immolating Souleater, Flame Rift, Roiling Vortex, Feed the Swarm
= Fire Covenant, Hand of Vecna, Blessing of Leeches, Soul Channeling
Ardees on Meren of Clan Nel Toth EDH
1 year ago
Would recommend lowering your mana curve, increase the ramp base, and add some tutors.
I'd suggest playing all the one-mana elves (Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, etc.) perhaps with the exception of Boreal Druid.
Run also Collector Ouphe and Manglehorn to slow down decks that heavily rely on artifacts, which is most decks at the current state of EDH.
Depending on your budget, you should definitely run Green Sun's Zenith and Worldly Tutor, and perhaps squeeze in a Profane Tutor. Also cheap pick ups that are a must are Unmarked Grave, Reanimate, and Animate Dead.
If you don't want to run infinites (like Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista), a nice non-infinite combo is Dauthi Voidwalker + Mindslicer + an infinite sac outlet (you should consider running also Carrion Feeder). Also if you run Phyrexian Delver, you can have your opponents lose around 20 life points each in a turn with Kokusho, the Evening Star (if Meren is also in play).
Cards I'd remove to accomodate the changes: Burning-Rune Demon, Khalni Ambush Flip, Hagra Mauling Flip, Dictate of Erebos, Read the Bones, Izoni, Thousand-Eyed, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Tormod, the Desecrator, Springbloom Druid, Greater Good, Satyr Wayfinder.
I have a decklist which is semi-competitive and quite expensive, but I can guarantee it is nice to have the deck running faster, smoother, and without having your opponents targeting you as the archenemy form the beginning. Meren Surgical Toolbox [2K22].
Jack32226 on Rot and Ruin (Muldrotha EDH)
1 year ago
Last_Laugh: Sorry for the late response to the suggestion! Sac outlets like Altar of Dementia are good in almost any deck. For most creature-based Muldrotha decks, sac outlets are a godsend that allow you to sacrifice your creatures so you may replay them. For my deck though, I have fewer creatures than standard for Muldrotha decks, and of the creatures I do have, perhaps the only creature I would ever need or want to sacrifice with Altar of Dementia is Eternal Witness. All other creatures are designed to stick around or can sacrifice themselves. Altar has two applications outside of just sacrificing creatures: milling and protection against exile effects. In my experience, exile isn't so common that it warrants running Altar, and the mill effect can be hard to take advantage of (it requires Muldrotha to be on the field) and has better alternatives.
I like the combo you found with it though! I might add it to my "Potential Combos". For now at least though, I'm trying to avoid infinite combos in the deck; I personally have more fun without them.
As for Gravebreaker Lamia, I talked about it in one of my previous comments but I find it too limited for the five mana investment: not being able to replay it every turn makes me much rather run Sidisi, Undead Vizier. Also, I already have several tutors in the deck that I think are better in most circumstances. It's a great card in general though!
Amyas: Thanks for your suggestions! I love finding new cards that I didn't even realize existed and these two fit the bill. The only reason I might not run them though is that they seem too slow for what I'm going for. Jester's Cap simply doesn't do enough for 6 mana and is most useful against combo decks, but against those I would want something lower costed. Personally I find that Ashiok, Dream Render and Opposition Agent accomplish a similar task by just not allowing your opponents to tutor for powerful cards at all. They only cost 3 mana and hurt all of my opponents at once. Praetor's Grasp is also a good card with a similar effect. It only exiles one card and isn't replayable, but the flexibility in being able to tutor something for yourself as well makes it pretty good.
Jester's Mask seems a bit better, instant speed hand disruption is always nice, but the fact that it enters tapped is a deal breaker for me. Again, it's just too slow for my meta. It seems like a fun politics card though! If you like this card and also run sac outlets, you might also consider running Mindslicer. It hurts all of your opponents and you can still play your own cards with Muldrotha.
im_just_a_lamp_bro on Liesa's L.I.P.S
1 year ago
Suggestions ans thoughts regarding your development based on my games and changes so far so far:
Plaguecrafter I found it to be immensely useful against planeswalker-focused decks which I didn't really have an answer to before but is still perfectly fine as a mini sacrification forcer. I just got Graf Reaver from a booster, but I don't know if the targeted removal will do any better. I think not, mostly because most players habe three planeswalkers at most.
I also use Reassembling Skeleton to make my life easier while I haven't found Winding Canyons or Vedalken Orrery yet. Sacking it in loop for two mana a pop to force the enemies to sacrifice is much easier than to try and spare my creatures for the perfect moment. If no sacrifice pact is on the field, it still makes good use of excess mana.
Helm of Possession is also nice to get rid of opponents creatures, or just to pull in more sac fodder that isn't even ours. It's not as cheap as I'd like though and doesnt scale particularly well. I haven't tested how it plays but I think it could work out.
Mind Slash works as a supplememt to sadistic hypnotist and replaced grief for me. I didn't like grief for its high recasting cost, so I put this in and throw cheap stuff at it.
Consider Library of Leng to make the effect of Mindslicer completely irrelevant to you. I saw that you removed the reliquary tower; I did the opposite and additonally play a Thought Vessel. Is there a reason you removed the tower? I think it has no downsides.
For the last part I currently run Nullpriest of Oblivion but consider replacing it with Doomed Necromancer. They're both cheap enough and I like to have yet another cog to protect Liesa (well, or get her back for cheap), as well as fetch stuff that went in the graveyard unprotected.
I really like the Tourach, Dread Cantor you put in, I think I'll get him as well. Not sure if I'm willing to pay the 25 bucks for the Stoneforge Mystic, it doesn't seem powerful enough to me. I also removed Alms Collector and didn't miss him so far.
Khirgan on Sadness on the Stack
1 year ago
Trying to oppress your opponents and not running all the super strong oppression cards that Muldrotha can abuse? Where’s the Contamination? Where’s the Mana Vortex?!? You could be running Opposition Agent and Mindslicer. Make it a 2v1v1 and run Mindslaver! There are still a lot of options left to really be degenerate and oppress everyone.
FastNLow on Chef Dina cEDH
1 year ago
@Ardees Thanks for the suggestions! I didn't really even think about practical uses for cards other than the hulk combo lines. Wouldn't Triskelion with Mikaeus be good also in cases where people are expecting Ballista?? Also I haven't played in a year so I wasn't sure on how often people see Witherbloom + Chain coming, thanks for letting me know. ;) And I forgot that Mindslicer existed, that and Dauthi would be great with Dina on the field (that's pretty gross tbh for those games that heading past turn 4)
Ardees on Chef Dina cEDH
1 year ago
In my optmized Meren Surgical Toolbox [2K22] I run Protean Hulk to fetch for Mikaeus and Walking Ballista and another sac outlet (Carrion Feeder or Viscera Seer). I've found no use with Disciple of the Vault or Melira other than the combo, which is not the case for Walking Ballista (can ping low creatures such as birds of paradise or elves).
I also removed the Witherbloom Apprentice and Chain of Smog combo as in cEDH it is too easy to counter. Players can wait for you to discard your hand, then counter the copy once you've out of cards.
I'd recommend try out Mindslicer and Dauthi Voidwalker. They are by themselves excellent cards, and together they create quite a nasty synergy. They are also tutorable by Protean Hulk in one shot.
Cool deck nevertheless!