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Teyo, the Shieldmage
Legendary Planeswalker — Teyo
You have hexproof. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
-2: Create a 0/3 white Wall create token with defender.
4 weeks ago
Hey, this is by far your best deck of the decks you've asked for help on. There's good deck building with a purpose.
The area that needs improvement is the manabase. 16x basic Plains is not going to cut it compared to many less Forests and Islands. The color pie of your deck shows primary white, but it's deceiving since you want a more balanced amount of land sources for each color to consistently cast Arcades. I say consistently because you need to control Arcades or most of your defenders are really not worth it.
Because you're playing green defenders who ramp and green ramp spells then it's important to have green mana more than the other colors in the early game, this isn't shown by the color pie. White and green are the two most important colors then blue. The majority of blue sources should come from dual lands that way the land can make another color except just blue. 8 sources of blue is not enough sources, you want more sources of blue which at the same time will increase sources of each other color.
On a low budget to balance the manabase for equal color fixing play some more always ETB tapped lands. This can unfortunately slow the game down some which means you want to make up for it with card quality.
- Yavimaya Coast --> 1x Plains
- Adarkar Wastes --> 1x Plains
- Fortified Village --> 1x Plains
- Port Town --> 1x Plains
- Vineglimmer Snarl --> 1x Forest
- Bant Panorama --> 1x Plains
- Path of Ancestry --> 1x Plains
- Krosan Verge --> Myriad Landscape
- Tangled Islet --> 1x Forest
Why are you playing so many cards that give you hexproof? Leyline of Sanctity and Shalai, Voice of Plenty are second and third most expensive price cards, but they don't help the strategy or have really any interaction with Arcades. If playing Leyline and Shalai then Ivory Mask and Aegis of the Gods aren't needed. Teyo, the Shieldmage is fine since it at least does something else, creating up to two defenders for draw with Arcades. Honestly, keep Shalai for this effect plus other effects and cut the others?
4 weeks ago
With only 14 total instants and sorceries, I'm not sure Mnemonic Wall is pulling its weight here, especially as a five-mana 0/4. It can probably go.
This is more of a meta call, but Aegis of the Gods is more vulnerable than Teyo, the Shieldmage, Leyline of Sanctity, or Ivory Mask. Unless you expect to see a lot of targeted effects, Aegis would be my next cut.
Hover Barrier doesn't really do anything that other cards can't do better. There's a third cut.
After this, play through a few hands and see which cards sit in your hand for a long time being used, what might be under-producing, and what just might not be working.
4 months ago
March of Otherworldly Light is probably not great in mono white.
Rebuff the Wicked although it sounds great, people pretty much only deal with walkers through combat damage so fog effects are better
Teyo, the Shieldmage although he has good effects he is the weakest walker so idk how many more you need to cut
You are currently at 14 ramp, not sure if that was the plan or not
Wanderer's Strike this one pains me because of the flavor, but 5 mana AND sorcery speed is too much
8 months ago
On its own its okay, but making marginal cards good is all about maximising upside.
For poppet to make it to playable, that 'loses abilites and becomes 3/3' needs to be a massive upside, ideally also using zombie subtype for effect.
There might be something to build with eldrazi spawn or similar 0 power creature tokens (who would get +3 power from the flip) with +1/+1 counters on them. Tokens with defender/sacrifice printed on them are another option.
Armies are good because of that, with Dreadhorde Invasion pointing to a 'you're meant to sacrifice the tokens' value/midrange zombie list.
Kher Keep & Springjack Pasture aren't gonna rock the world, Hard Evidence and Teyo, the Shieldmage are also just fine, and a lot of the 'sacrifice at end of turn' have that printed on the card, not the tokens. It'll make build around tricky. Satyr's Cunning looks good, but its just one card.
I feel like there is something there, but its gonna take some weird interactions with something like Kasmina, Enigma Sage's -x to get it playable.
9 months ago
11 months ago
Thanks for the recommendations, Kazierts. Glad you enjoyed the decklist!
Dovin, Hand of Control is probably a good idea in the right match ups like vs combo decks, but I mostly play with my brother and we don't use any. Otherwise, it would be a solid 2-3-of sideboard card ASAP. Teyo, the Shieldmage is too situational and Saheeli, Sublime Artificer kind of seems like win-more even if you have the best synergy pieces. Lastly Rustvale Bridge might be an OK budget option for lands since it Galvanic Blast and Toolcraft Exemplar are so good when Metalcraft is triggered. However, in my experience entering tapped is too slow in an aggressive list like this one and the deck has no shortage of ways to produce artifacts.
Again, thanks for checking out my list!
11 months ago
Really nice deck!
I don't have any really strong suggestion in mind. The only thing I could possibly think was Dovin, Hand of Control in case this deck ends up playing against a sort of combo deck. Teyo, the Shieldmage could be ok if discard is something this deck struggles with. Saheeli, Sublime Artificer has the potential to turn something into vehicles, maybe her own constructs or Magda's treasure, but maybe she's too much of a stretch. All of them can be used as the alternative cost for the Heart of Kiran crew cost and Weatherlight can help find them. However, I can understand if they don't seem all that appealing.
For the lands, I'd just consider Rustvale Bridge since it's an artifact and that could help with synergies, but that's really not necessary.
This list seems pretty tight and well built. Well done!
1 year ago
VayraTheGatherer Hey, feel free! I posted the deck and primer for a reason! :D For Arcane Artisan, in my own personal experience playing Group Hug Decks, I'm not a huge fan of effects that let my opponents cheat things into play such as Braids, Conjurer Adept, Hypergenesis, or Tempting Wurm. When I used to play these sorts of cards in my Phelddagrif Group Hug deck, what happens is you usually just end up randomly Kingmaking whichever opponent happened to be playing the biggest scariest thing in the hand like an Eldrazi or something. Its never as symmetrical as it seems it should be, you know? That's why I like focusing on card draw for my Group Hugging, you still speed up the game by making sure people hit their land drops and ramp and have action to play, but they still have to put in the work to cast those cards, they don't just get to cheat them for free.
Dimensional Breach feels like an absolutely miserable card to play against, because this will hit every single permanent including lands. Tokens are just gone forever, and players are now forced to slowly get back 1 land or creature or whatever at a time to rebuild their boards. Its like starting the entire game over, and nobody is going to want to sit through that. A much better option I think would be Out of Time, which phases out only creatures as a sort of pseudo-board wipe for a number of turns but then safely returns them all back into play without removing tokens or retriggering any ETB, and most importantly, its ONLY creatures, so no need to replay absolutely everything. Its also why I prefer cards like AEtherize as opposed to Wrath of God because you can be a bit more precise with what to remove, and you're only temporarily bouncing it back to hand to be replayed later, rather than just removing it forever.
Having Hexproof for yourself is nice, but kind of unnecessary I think. Ideally no one should really be targeting you with very many spells since you're far from being the biggest threat at the table. Anything they DO target you with you should most likely have a counterspell for if its a big enough deal, or otherwise if its not actively about to kill you, let it slide. The great thing about Kwain is that we're playing him on Turn 2 every single game, and he should hopefully stick around the whole game, so when we're gaining a life every single turn our life total should be pretty stacked. If there's some sort of infinite damage combo or repeatable trigger that keeps threatening your life total, than that's what we have counterspells and removal for. I like to take a more reactive approach to things, rather than trying to construct an untouchable pillowfort. Its why I don't play Solitary Confinement or Island Sanctuary or Blazing Archon. And if you're worried about burn, cards like Aegis of the Gods or Teyo, the Shieldmage won't actually do much besides eat the first burn spell.
Spiritual Focus is... a weird card. I guess if you want to run it as a metagame decision if someone in your playgroup plays Nath of the Gilt-Leaf, Tinybones, Trinket Thief or some other discard focused deck or a lot of wheels like Nekusar, the Mindrazer. But honestly, with the sheer amount of card draw that this deck will provide the entire table, discard decks are going to have a much harder time keeping up, and they're just going to have a bad time. You'll have enough cards in hand that you won't really care to ditch one or two.
As for Nekusar, the Mindrazer and other similar strategies looking to punish card draw... well that's sort of a sticky situation for us since all of our extra card draw is actively hurting everyone except the Nekusar player and helping them a LOT. This is the sort of matchup you really just want to discuss and avoid in Rule 0 conversations, because someone is going to have a miserable time, and its probably the Nekusar player as every single card they play in their deck is a threat that you simply can't allow to resolve to stick around on the board for more than a turn.
I hope this helps :)