Mass Manipulation

Mass Manipulation

Sorcery

Gain control of X target creatures and/or planeswalkers.

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Mass Manipulation Discussion

Lanzo493 on Paths of Pain Commander

1 week ago

When I think of Nagato, the card that comes to mind is K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth since he uses his life as a means for power. Reminds me of Nagato and how messed up his body ends up being. But being mono black wouldn't let you represent his other abilities effectively. I would use Jodah, Archmage Eternal since he has that "I can do anything" feel that Nagato has with all of his insane abilities.

As far as the attractive and repulsive forcers are concerned, I think of Kira, Great Glass-Spinner, Erayo, Soratami Ascendant  Flip Mass Manipulation, Perplexing Chimera, etc.

The summoning Pain can be represented by Tooth and Nail, Genesis Wave, and the like.

Absorbing chakra sounds like Mana Drain, Draining Whelk, Plasm Capture, and Spell Swindle.

Mind's Dilation could work for reading a person's mind. There's also Sen Triplets.

Living Death, Necromantic Selection, Ruinous Ultimatum, Eerie Ultimatum, and many other cards can represent his control over life and death.

Legendxp on How does one interpret "and/or" …

1 month ago

Let's say I cast Ghostly Flicker. Does this mean I can flicker two artifacts, two creatures, AND two lands? Obviously not right?

However, according to "Kaalia, Zenith Seeker",

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466964

which says "(You may reveal an Angel card, a Demon card, and/or a Dragon card from among them and put them into your hand.)", you can get all three types of cards from this ability.

So which is it? Does and/or mean you can choose AND or do you have to choose "OR"?

What does this mean for cards that have X in their effect, like Mass Manipulation or Heliod's Intervention? (That's where this originally came up, another player was saying that they could destroy four permanents for four mana at instant speed by playing Heliod's Intervention.)

Also, I was trying to find the exact ruling in the actual rulesbook but I couldn't find it. An official ruling would be appreciated as well.

multimedia on Undead unleashed combo upgrade

2 months ago

Hey, nice upgrades on a budget so far for the precon.

Opponent mill strategy is an interesting choice/change from the precon. Opponent mill that's not an infinite combo, but done over many turns can be risky in multiplayer Commander because graveyards are a huge resource for so many decks.

The precon has too high of a mana curve with over 20 cards that are 5 CMC or higher. You haven't really changed this, but you have reduced the number of lands to 34 from 40 in the precon. By reducing the number lands, but not reducing the mana curve you risk not being able to cast spells until much later in a game. You're right to reduce the land count and 34 lands is fine, but the rest of your deck also needs to be reduced especially since you've added Bolas's Citadel.

Upgrading to better high CMC cards which you have done with Rise of the Dark Realms and Bolas's Citadel is good, but you really should consider cutting other high CMC cards from the precon to add these such as Gorex, the Tombshell and Gravespawn Sovereign. Gravespawn is also a reanimation effect, but is worse than Rise. Tombshell can be reduced in mana cost, but that has negative interaction with wanting to reanimate Zombies.


Death Tyrant is an example of a budget high CMC card that's an upgrade for another five drop in the precon such as Eternal Skylord. Tyrant has excellent synergy with decayed Zombies because when they attack and are saced at end of combat then you create a 2/2 Zombie for each one. This interaction is also good with sac outlets such as Carrion Feeder to sac all your attacking Zombies in combat to create that many 2/2 Zombies which can then with Wilhelt, sac them to create 2/2 decayed Zombies and repeat the next turn with Tyrant.

Some budget lower CMC cards to consider adding:

Some cards to consider cutting: Gorex, the Tombshell, Switcheroo, Mass Manipulation, Aetherspouts, Eternal Skylord, Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth, Gravespawn Sovereign, Shadow Kin, Vilis, Broker of Blood, Open the Graves.

Good luck with your deck.

Mox_Dookie on Jorn go BRRrRrrr...

7 months ago

DoctorLovehammer Thanks! He has quickly become one of my favorites in my rotation. I built the deck to steal stuff but every time I play him he pops off pretty quick before I get to troll my play group with a Villainous Wealth or a Mass Manipulation

GenericToaster on Would asking for an "X" …

1 year ago

The difficulties in doing this would entirely depend on how the data structures for the cards are currently set up, as well as how the actual mana curve tool is built. If you were to build this from scratch, you could relatively easily have a boolean within each card called "ContainsX" or something, and have the mana curve tool check for it before putting it under any given CMC.

Difficulties aside, I'm not sure how I personally would feel about this. I do like the general idea, especially since it would my Zaxara, the Exemplary deck much easier to manage, but it also seems a little disingenuous to put cards like Diabolic Revelation or Mass Manipulation within the same mana cost category as something like Stonecoil Serpent or By Force.

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