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As Murmuring Bosk enters the battlefield, you may reveal a Treefolk card from your hand. If you don't, Murmuring Bosk enters the battlefield tapped.
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6 days ago
8 months ago
Hey, well done for your first three color deck with partners. Nice start and work in progress. Some good ideas and cards here, other than the obvious staples like Sol, Arcane, Tower, Swords, Farseek, Cultivate, etc.
Nice Fetch lands, Plunderer, Ghave, Beledros, Altar, Dawn, Wake, Intervention, Inkshield, Artist, Blot, Ranger, Remembrance, Damn, Infestation. I see win condition combos of Ghave + Altar + Artist and Life/Limb + Sporemound, but you could expand on token combos if that's the direction you want to go.
Six excellent lands here make up a large portion of the budget, the rest is fairly low budget thus my suggestions will be for lower budget. If I'm wrong about this and you would prefer more pricey options let me know.
My first comment is advice to improve on the basic structure (lands, ramp and draw). If you're interested in me continuing with more advice in other areas I can in another comment. Three areas to consider improving are amount of lands/color fixing from lands, more draw and more ramp.
- Mentor of the Meek --> Bad Moon
- Tireless Provisioner --> Transcendent Master
- Shamanic Revelation --> Killian, Ink Duelist
- Murmuring Bosk --> Glorious Anthem
- Woodland Chasm --> Vorpal Sword
- Snowfield Sinkhole --> Dramatic Finale
- Oketra's Monument
- Rite of Harmony
- Sandsteppe Citadel
- Caves of Koilos
- High Market
- Canopy Vista
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
32 lands is low amount with only 8 ramp sources. Consider adding some lands, at least 3 more and add at least 3 more ramp sources? 21 basic lands is a lot for a three color deck, that makes color fixing subpar from lands. By cutting a few basic lands for more dual lands it will help color fixing. You're playing green which gives you access to many different ramp options such as Tireless Provisioner who creates tokens. Take advantage of ramp when playing green.
Mentor of the Meek and Provisioner are helpful three drops for tokens because of their repeatable effects. Mentor and Shamanic Revelation take advantage of tokens for draw. You're creating 1/1 tokens which Prava makes them 2/5 when they enter the battlefield, but that's still 2 power for Mentor to be a repeatable draw source.
I see Verdant Catacombs and Windswept Heath which are great as well as Farseek, but I only see Temple Garden as the dual land these Fetch lands/Farseek can get. Consider adding a few more lands that the Fetch lands can get such as Murmuring Bosk? Farseek can get a black source from Woodland Chasm or Snowfield Sinkhole.
For some cuts, the cards I've chosen for you to consider are less impactful then others in your deck. Creatures who all they have is lifelink are not worth playing because you can get life from other sources that do much more. Transcendent Master is not worth the mana investment into it for what you eventually get.
Bad Moon is subpar because you don't have enough black creatures and the majority of token creatures are not black, they're white or green especially since Prava only creates white creatures. Dramatic Finale mana cost is too difficult to consistently make with three colors and only nontoken dies. Other anthems such as Glorious Anthem are fine since it affects all creatures you control, but in my opinion are not worth a card spot since all it does is +1/+1 pump.
Black in my opinion is better as a splash color here with dual lands and a few basic Swamps since green and white give you much more for tokens and life gain strategies. It takes a lot of black mana for Vorpal Sword to have a good effect which without a lot of treasures or more color fixing help will be too difficult to make.
Would you like me to continue with more advice? Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Hey, there's a new Commander product that just released called Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Commander and Draconic Rage is one of the four precons. It's two color Gruul with Dragon theme and in the precon are several cards that are upgrades for your deck.
- Arcane Signet --> Traveler's Amulet
- Nature's Lore --> Stream of Life
- Atarka, World Render --> Darigaaz Reincarnated
- Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient --> Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner
- Savage Ventmaw --> O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami
- Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients --> Dragonlord Atarka
- Skyline Despot --> Broodmate Dragon
- Dragonborn Champion --> Verix Bladewing
- Chaos Dragon --> Boneyard Scourge
- Garruk's Uprising --> Crucible of Fire
- Return of the Wildspeaker --> You Come to the Gnoll Camp
- Beast Within --> Draconic Roar
- Haven of the Spirit Dragon --> Gateway Plaza
- Path of Ancestry --> Dimir Guildgate
- Game Trail --> Azorius Guildgate
If you want to be more competitive than the number one area for improvements to consider is the manabase. Due to budget I don't expect to see Shock lands and Fetch lands, but you could improve the manabase a lot even without them. On a budget rely more on basic lands, more Forests than others and some dual lands that have interaction with basic lands. The reason for this is basic lands always ETB untapped to make mana.
Play more Forests than others because green mana helps the most to get the other colors with land ramp spells. Mountains should be next because red is the most important color to cast Dragons. Those two colors are overall the two most important with Dragons.
Currently there's 26 of the 37 lands that always ETB tapped which makes the manabase really slow. In my opinion you're better off having the land ETB untapped and make less colors then ETB tapped and make more colors. On a budget a don't expect you to play all lands that always ETB untapped, but limit the amount of lands that don't to much less than 26. If you're going to play lands that always ETB tapped then choose Rainbow lands ( Path of Ancestry ) or the Tri lands ( Savage Lands ) since these lands can make one of five colors or one of three colors which on a budget is worth it ETB tapped.
Example of a budget five color manabase:
- 15 basic lands: more Forests and Mountains than others.
- Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory , Haven of the Spirit Dragon , Path of Ancestry
- Ash Barrens, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse
- The World Tree
- 4 Tri lands: Jungle Shrine, Savage Lands , Frontier Bivouac , Opulent Palace
- 5 Tango lands: Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista , Sunken Hollow , Prairie Stream , Smoldering Marsh
- 3 Pain lands: Murmuring Bosk , Yavimaya Coast , Llanowar Wastes
Tango lands can ETB tapped, but more basic lands help for them not to. By adding more Tango lands then Farseek could also be added as a land upgrade for Grow from the Ashes since Farseek can search for a Tango land.
If interested I offer more advice. Would you like more advice? Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Aight so we've got some cuts to make! So I think a good benchmark to shoot for off the bat is 36 lands and 64 non-lands, though with the sheer number of transform lands you have you might be fine at 34 or 35 - I would NOT recommend going that low until you've played a respectable number of games or playtest hands (probably at least 4 games and 30 playtest hands) and you have a solid understanding of how consistently you come in with too few lands.
As far as the cuts, I'd say drop: Rushed Rebirth , Ecological Appreciation , Vona, Butcher of Magan , Silent Sentinel , Resolute Archangel , Aegis of the Gods , Path of Discovery , Shapers' Sanctuary , Springleaf Drum , Perpetual Timepiece , Accomplished Alchemist , Call for Unity OR Collective Blessing (probably the latter), Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant / Rune-Tail's Essence , Elixir of Immortality , Heliod, God of the Sun , Huatli, Radiant Champion . I can give you my rationale one-by-one if you like.
Then add three lands, possibly modal spell-lands like Agadeem's Awakening Flip. Ideally, more of your lands should be multiple colours, as you have a large colour cost burden in black and white especially (lots of cards that need two or three of the same colour). The cheapest options are the snow taplands, guildgates, refuge lands (give 1 life when they enter the battlefield), and the showlands from Shadows over Innistrad and Strixhaven. There are definitely some mid-range lands that you can pick up for less than $10 that should be a high priority for you: Sunpetal Grove and Godless Shrine to fill out your buddy and shockland sets, the three scrylands a la Temple of Malady , Murmuring Bosk , Canopy Vista , and Scattered Groves . Since your deck doesn't currently have many ways to fetch basic lands, you really shouldn't have many since your colour demands are so high. Also definitely be on the lookout for legendary lands that fit into the deck well! Those will be sweet.
1 year ago
Hi! Thank you very much for the comment and the suggestions!
I have to confess, I didnt know Unnatural Selection until now. It is definetly a great card in this deck! I should consider to add it. However I would not replace Wings of Velis Vel in spite of the fact that it looks to be quite weak. The changelling instants are essential during the gameplay. Let me explain why:
It is every creature type so Sliver Overlord is able to find it directly. He can tutor a "sliver card", not a "sliver permanent", what means a great flexibility for all of the changelling instants.
It is every creature type so with Morophon, the Boundless on board you can actually cast it just for
It is every creature type so you can easily reanimate these instants via Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero . She is able to put a "Rebel card" not a "Rebel permanent" on the bottom of your library. That is how you can play it repeatedly.
The Wings of Velis Vel is quite versatile as well. Many times I have used the card as sort of "removal" of an opponent's dirty flyer when I have created my own surprising 4/4 flying blocker.
Last but not least: I dont want to fully optimize the deck. I would like to keep a bit of its sense of "lore". Therefore I want to play the tribal lands as Ancient Amphitheater , Gilt-Leaf Palace or Murmuring Bosk . For this reason I need a number of changelling cards to keep them functional (to reveal a Giant, Elf, Treefolk etc and to play them untapped)
Sure it is possible to replace Tendo Ice Bridge by Mana Confluence . In this case I just worry a bit to play too many pain lands, because the deck is not extremly fast and it doesnt have any easy way how to gain life.
You are right about the bordwipe as well. I used to play the Whelming Wave as a cheap and lore variant of Cyclonic Rift . Later, I beleave, I have replaced it with a counterspell, because I havent used it much. Anyway.. it is still in my mind.
Thank you once more for the comment and for discovering Unnatural Selection for me ;)
1 year ago
I would run Murmuring Bosk over mirrodin's core b/c it is fetchable with three visits & natures lore.
Also would you consider Eerie Ultimatum as a late game bomb? I would run this over duneblast to keep your cmc the same. And i would run Wrath of God over demonic collusion. I get that you can pitch cards with it but 5 mana for demonic tutor is just not efficient enough imo.
1 year ago
I had a teneb deck a while back but switched to different commanders as a 6 drop in command zone was tough with my playgroup.
Personally i would run Murmuring Bosk over stirring wildwood as its fetchable and makes all 3 colors.
You might consider Eerie Ultimatum , definitely a powerful card late game.
Finally i know it is probably out of budget but Anvil of Bogardan feels like a good way to hit your land drops and get your big creatures into the GY so you can reanimate them.