Firemind Vessel enters the battlefield tapped.
: Gain two mana of different colours.
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|War of the Spark (WAR)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Firemind Vessel Discussion
2 weeks ago
Continuing where I left off.
continuing from creatures
Something to consider when addressing what to drop for my suggestions is how it affects your overall strategy and politics. Ashenmoor Gouger looks good because on paper it can deal damage, but consider what happens if you draw it 10 turns in and the table has all dug in for the long game. Hyper aggressive cards of the sort that do little else aren't going to help you after the first few turns. Hackrobat, Rakdos Firewheeler, Thrill-Kill Assassin, and the like are what you should look for when hacking cards out of the deck in the creature department. You might be gearing up to go fast and hit hard, but you still are playing the "long game", if you can even call it that.
Onwards we march, starting with the strict spell category. Here, you should be looking for either utility or pure power. Spot removal cards like Go for the Throat work in regular 60 card formats, but lose a ton of value as the game is slowed enough for that one spell to have a diminished effect because it can only hit a single creature, often to little effect. Now Bedevil, on the other hand, is outstanding because you can hold it for either an artifact or 'walker, thus expanding your range and making it always live and effective.
Allure of the Unknown - A huge resource generation spell. Additionally, it plays into politics well by letting an opponent (or friend) have a card. Gotta keep the train moving.
Bituminous Blast - Perhaps not the most clutch of cards, but at least worth considering since EDH is slow enough for these types of spells to put in work, mostly because Cascade is nuts. I'd understand if it didn't make the cut, though.
Captive Audience - Hilarious and effective. Instant enemy-maker, but if you haven't farted in the general direction of everyone at the table, others might turn a blind eye. In my experience, when Joe Shmoe poops out an army of dargons and you slap him with this, the table would generally point and laugh.
Cauldron Dance - A nice little shuffling of creatures, which is nice if you're rich in chunguses.
Kolaghan's Command - The best charm from its cycle, for good reasons. It's always live in EDH.
Spiteful Visions - Perhaps risky for politics, but it does put damage on board, thus making Rakdos live, and generates card advantage.
Beacon of Unrest - There will always be something in the grave, and self-recursion is a godsend in my books.
Scheming Symmetry - Helps your consistency and makes a friend.
Subversion - Nibbles at your opponents while sustaining yourself, and makes Rakdos live.
Generally any spell with X in its cost. As the game drags on, they only get better.
I did a brief skim of cards in Gatherer and from among my own decks, but don't be afraid to look at other decks or EDHRec for things that will help you. Just remember that your goal boils largely down to pinging to make Rakdos live, cards that Rakdos is payoff for, and utility general support that rounds out the deck.
Necessary gears to get the machine moving. Mostly it will boil down to mana rocks to accelerate your state, but there will be others that you want purely because they work well for you.
Commander's Sphere - Obvious utility.
Firemind Vessel - Perhaps slow, but produces plenty of mana.
Thought Vessel - A personal choice, but if you don't have enough draw power to fill your hand, then it's not worth the cash.
Tome of Legends - Easy draws.
Conqueror's Galleon Flip - Another personal choice, but I find that once it transforms, the advantage it generates does wonders, and as a deck stuffed with creatures that could crew it, the fit seems nice to me.
Here you can start to have some fun. Being 2-color, you do have to be somewhat mindful of what you're running, but you can definitely make use of a lot of offbeat lands since you're not trying to be a fool and mana fix 5 colors. Keep in mind that you may not necessarily need everything listed here, but it's just a matter of helping keep your ability to produce both colors consistent.
Temple of Malice - Slow lands may be unappealing, but Scrying usually helps.
Arch of Orazca - Yet another personal choice. All you need is to have 10 permanents at any point while controlling/playing a card with City's Blessing and you have it for the game. At which point, Arch becomes something to do with spare mana.
Command Tower - Staple.
Graven Cairns - Filter lands are always nice.
Rakdos Carnarium - Slow, yes, but in the long run gives more mana.
Shadowblood Ridge - Another pseudo Filter Land
I encourage you to think these things out on your own or ask friends about this part, because understanding the process of what and why things stay or go is important to understanding your deck. Below are my suggestions for what needs to get yeeted.
Ashenmoor Gouger/Hackrobat/Hellhole Flailer/Rakdos Firewheeler/Thrill-Kill Assassin/Rakdos Guildmage - All just don't do that much. Awesome to drop in the first turns, but soon are just fodder. They're nice fodder for Lysolda and Judith, but overall too narrow in use and too low impact.
Void Winnower/Blood Moon - As someone who wins almost all his games through player politics, I advise against these types of cards that choke the entire table. Like infinite combos kept as panic buttons in decks, you really only get to pull it once before the group starts remembering what you have up your sleeve. After that, you risk being targeted because they'll know what you have.
Phyrexian Obliterator - BBBB in 2-color is a bold move for what's essentially a 5/5 unblockable.
Dark Ritual/Doom Blade/Go for the Throat - I personally would cut them, but feel free to play around with at least the removal spells for consistency in board control. Ritual, however, is just not suited for this format.
Everlasting Torment - It's the only card of its type in your deck, and actually makes you vulnerable to getting chump blocked.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Urborg serves almost no purpose in this deck.
Rakdos Guildgate - Guildgates are just packfiller.
Lava Axe - Shouting "Catch" while literally throwing this is hilarious, but the card's just horribly overcosted.
Anthem of Rakdos - You will lose a lot of games you shouldn't lose because of this.
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen - His Landfall is nice, but by nature isn't consistent, which is what you're looking for in ways to ping your opponent. Becoming a chungus is nice, but you're better off just skipping the hoops and playing an actual chungus.
Vial Smasher the Fierce - This one I'm not totally sold on cutting, but she seems more complicated than just running a pinger. Play around with her and see how Vial Smasher synergizes.
Master of Cruelties - Another I'm not totally sold on chopping, but he can only attack alone, which bottlenecks your options.
I know this all is sort of messy, but when making edits, start with comparable replacements (i.e. swapping a creature for a creature), run a few test turns, and see how things work.
1 month ago
I run 8 artifacts in my Scarab God Zombies edh deck. They are: Chrome Mox, Everflowing Chalice, Hedron Archive, Star Compass and Manalith. The cards I am thinking of adding are Sol Ring, Commander's Sphere, Dimir Signet, and Firemind Vessel. Should I replace some of them or find ways to add them?
1 month ago
Hiya! Long time Aurelia, the Warleader player, hopefully I can give some useful advice.
The first thing I've noticed about your deck is the very low amount of lands in your deck. Your deck has a very, very high mana curve, so you need to consistently be making your land drop every turn. With that in mind, I recommend upping your land count to 38 lands, no less.
In the same vein, I counted 7 ways to ramp in your deck with one way to tutor for your ramp cards. Once again, since it seems your deck wants to be casting big angels, you'll want to have 10-12 ways to ramp or tutor for them. One especial card I recommend investing in is Smothering Tithe. It is the best white EDH card and provides an unbelievable amount of ramp once you play it. Other than that, mana rocks that produce multiple mana seems to be what your deck wants so it can cast those big angels. So include stuff like Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, Worn Powerstone, etc. The new Nyx Lotus could be helpful, or even something like Firemind Vessel.
The next thing is some more ways to generate card advantage. I counted 5-7 or so cards that produce card advantage. Getting up to 10 or so would be preferred that way your deck never runs out of steam. In this deck where you want to get big angels I think going for wheel effects and then reanimation could be the best way to do this. You already have Reforge the Soul, other good wheel effects are Magus of the Wheel, Wheel of Fate, and if you have lots of money, Wheel of Fortune. You already have some great reanimation pieces in your deck like Emeria Shepherd and Faith's Reward, adding in some more like Brought Back would be helpful.
Let me know if you need any more card suggestions!
1 month ago
Hi there! Good looking deck with an underused commander. I have some suggestions though, if you're still having trouble with gameplay.
My first suggestion is to consider the cost of your commander. Ideally, turn 2 ramp cards like the talismans are standard. However, considering you'll still be ramping on turns 4, 5, and even 6, maybe consider higher costed CMC ramp, such a Firemind Vessel or Gilded Lotus. It's easier to create lots of colorless mana than colored, so if you find you dont need that much color, maybe switch in a Worn Powerstone or something similar?
Second, since I run an equipment deck myself, possibly consider the balance of creatures to equipment. Do you run into games where you have too much of one over the other?
And third (off the top of my head.) Sunforger is an incredible powerhouse, especially if you have Syr Gwn out to cheat its equip cost. Consider abusing it more! I like cards such as Seething Song to give you the mana to search for multiple things in a single turn.
If you want more recommendations, let me know!
1 month ago
Hey, you're welcome.
To start, cards to consider cutting are lands since you don't need 41 lands in an Orzhov Commander deck especially since there's so many basic lands. Consider 36 lands? Next are creatures who don't have flying or other evasion.
You want to make some choices of the kind of creatures/theme you want to play. There's a small Vampire theme here with Captivating Vampire, Malakir Bloodwitch, etc. For these Vamps to be worth playing you need a lot more Vampires because without Vamps they don't really do much. There's many Vampires who have evasion therefore if you choose you could increase the Vamps a lot and make your deck more Vampire tribal then anything else.
A reason to cut the Vamps is there's many more nonVamp creatures that are better. Neither Tymna or Ravos are Vamps which makes the tribe overall less good, no tribal synergy with your Generals. If you choose to keep the Vamps then include a lot more of them or if not then cut them.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vicious Rumors
- Toll of the Invasion
- Lich's Caress
- Righteous Blow
- Bloodsoaked Altar
- Burglar Rat
- Corpse Knight
- Daybreak Chaplain
- Martyr for the Cause
- Tattered Mummy
- Sanctum Custodian
- Charity Extractor
- Gallant Cavalry
- Relief Captain
- Intrusive Packbeast
- Knight of Sorrows
- Evra, Halcyon Witness
- Loxodon Restorer
- Bishop of the Bloodstained
- Baird, Steward of Argive
- Firemind Vessel
I would cut all these cards, doesn't matter what direction for your deck you choose to go. There's better budget options for each one of these cards. Some cards such as Corpse Knight are good, but it doesn't go with the current strategy therefore I would cut it.
I don't recommend the Vampire direction, but if you want to play Vamps then I do offer advice for that direction.
1 month ago
Hey man! Good first draft! I like some of the ideas in here. I have some constructive criticism for you, so, as brutally honest as I will be with my suggestions, keep in mind I’m just offering my best advice on how to improve this list. I tested this deck a bit and here’s some thoughts I have:
More Tutor / Draw: You’re running very little card advantage, which I noticed when I was testing this deck. There isn’t enough dig or deck manipulation going on here. Basically every time I found myself durdling. Here are some suggestions:
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Scroll Rack
- Crystal Ball
- Courier's Capsule
- Wheel of Fortune
- Stroke of Genius
- Mystic Remora
- Jace Beleren
- Long-Term Plans
- Land Tax
- Academy Rector
- Idyllic Tutor
- Madblind Mountain
- Fetch Lands. Literally any fetches.
More spot removal: Your deck doesn’t have a lot of ways of dealing out targeted removal. Mass Land D and other sweeper spells are great and all, but you also need ways of handling individual problems as they arrive. Here are some suggestions I have:
- Path to Exile / Swords to Plowshares
- Seal of Cleansing / Dispeller's Capsule
- Return to Dust
- Crush Contraband
- Shattering Pulse
- Shattering Spree
- Chaos Warp
- Lightning Bolt
More Persistent harassment: You’re running MLD, Tax, but you aren’t running a whole lot of effects to consistently torment the opponent. Smokestack, Pendrell Mists, Kataki, War's Wage, Manabarbs keep pressure on your opponents. Even just running more stuff to slow things down (Winter Orb, Tangle Wire, Kismet, Rule of Law, Stranglehold etc.) would be useful here.
Consider less creatures, more enchantments: Hatebears are cool, but consider the fact that they are easier to kill than their enchantment counterparts. Magus of the Moon dies much easier than Blood Moon and you want these effects to have a good return on investment. This one is more food for thought than actual criticism.
Suggestions for cuts: Hall of Heliod's Generosity (?): It’s a great card, but right now you aren’t running enough Enchantments to justify it. Most of the time it’s going to just tap for colorless. If you run more Enchantments, it’s a keeper! (I think I’m going to try and find a slot for my own deck)
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain: This is pretty vestigial. It’s not really pulling much weight. Cut it.
Karn, Silver Golem: See above.
Tomik, Distinguished Advokist: I get what you’re going with here, but you’re blowing up your lands anyway, making them untargetable is kind of moot. There’s a bunch of hatebears I’d rather run in this slot.
Saltblast: This card is kind of bad. Costs waaay too much for targeted removal. Also, is completely dead against decks that run white. I’d honestly remove this and replace it with Wrath of God instead.
Karn, the Great Creator: Not doing enough. I see the combo with Mycosynth Lattice, but Hellkite Tyrant is a much better combo.
Empowered Autogenerator: Too slow, too expensive. It’s not as good as it looks. Ideally, rocks should slot into the 0-3 CC range. If you desperately wanted something in the 4 slot, why not just run Thran Dynamo instead? It’s more consistent.
Firemind Vessel – See above.
1 month ago
Hiya! I've got a few suggestions from a long time Boros player.
First off, with such a high mana curve, I suggest you up your land count up another land or two. Hitting your land drop consistently turn after turn is critical in a deck with such a high mana curve.
On that note, you want all the ramp you can get. Big mana rocks are your best friend, stuff like Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone, even the new Firemind Vessel could help out. You want lots of mana, so you want your ramp to ramp you more than less.
In addition, if your plan seems to be ramp-board wipe-play big angels-win with big angels, you'll probably want some more board wipes in the deck. Winds of Abandon is my biggest recommendation. It's not cyclonic rift, but the fact that the comparison can be drawn should show you the power of it. It doubles as single target removal as well as a mass exile one sided board wipe. Day of Judgment and Cleansing Nova are other solid board-wipes.
2 months ago
Well, you are running a bunch of eldrazi and mycosynth lattice/darksteel forge/vandalblast combo in a mostly artifact deck. No wonder you are seen as a threat. It looks like a fun deck if you can get it going. Maybe more mana rocks could help smoothen out your games. Izzet Signet , Mind Stone , Star Compass , Wayfarer's Bauble , Sky Diamond , Solemn Simulacrum , Fire Diamond and Firemind Vessel are all pretty good options.
Also if you are running big things you might need some ways to cheat them into play. I like to run Thran Temporal Gateway , Planar Bridge and Master Transmuter to help cheat my big stuff into play. Master Transmuter also offers some protection shenanigans. You can activate it to return an artifact that's about to be destroyed or exiled back to your hand. Thran Temporal Gateway's activation protects spells from counters unless it's a Disallow .
This is a pretty artifact heavy deck, Daretti, Scrap Savant might be good here. Also as you are running so many strong cards, you might as well run Urza, Lord High Artificer . Turn all your artifacts into mana and you'll be able to play all those bombs no problem.
This is just my opinion. These colors are hard to ramp with but I find that putting in a bunch of mana rocks work as a pretty good substitute. If you can get like 5-8 mana rocks or more stuff like your Burnished Hart or the stuff I mentioned above, your games might end up running a little bit smoother. Either way good luck on your deck!!