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As an additional cost to play Fire Covenant, pay X life.
Fire Covenant deals X damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures.
Fire Covenant Discussion
2 hours ago
A couple more thoughts in addition to my thoughts above.
Cathars' Crusade is a math nightmare but it's way better than Door of Destinies. I don't play this but if you like pumping the team up it is one of the best ways to do it.
Fire Covenant is a selective wrath to clear the way for your attacks and you can easily regain the life by activating Najeela.
Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist combined with a source of Menace makes your team unblockable.
Other lands that will help you and wont break the bank: City of Brass , Mana Confluence , Reflecting Pool . I'd cut anything that comes into play tapped. Play pain lands, check lands, battle lands or anything else.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
@newrise : Re: "Grier Reach Sanitarium" - I think it's actually more nuanced than that and different versions of the card actually spell the name differently. But, I think you're right I need to change it. Thanks!
@maff98 : Re: Gitrog. Well, that's why cards like Damnation , Toxic Deluge , and Fire Covenant are good. And sometimes you get them with a turn-1 EE for 1. Typically I like to give Xantcha to the Gitrog player, in the hope that they decide to attack one person for 11. So in that sense, you don't strictly have to stop Gitrog to get on the with the Plan of Xantcha. But, actually killing Gitrog is typically one of the best ways to slow down that deck (apart from Leyline of the Void ), so if it is a major presence in your meta then adding a terminate or something seems ok. Although, I don't like it a whole lot cause they usually get to ramp enough that replaying Gitrog isn't hard. A whole-board wipe is usually a lot more effective. Also Blood Moon is extremely effective against Gitrog. But, yeah, that deck is very good and there's like 5 or 6 cards we have that are effective, so you have to tutor for one of them early.
3 weeks ago
I am trying to finish an edh deck. Below are cards I am looking for. My binder is out of date. So if you have an updated looking for list would be helpful. I'm taking apart 6 edh decks and have lots of edh playables. For the reserve list cards listed, I would be willing to give a little extra for, or trade some of my reserve list cards (like cradle, metal worker, etc.).
Carpet of Flowers
Chain of Vapor
Elvish Spirit Guide
Pact of Negation .
Wall of Roots .
Yawgmoth's Will .
3 weeks ago
Hello, I saw the message you left on my wall, and I'm pretty sure this is the deck you were asking about, right?
So, when you say competitive, how competitive do you mean? cEDH is somewhat of a different beast from the usual EDH, where decks have average mana costs under 2, and you should be able to goldfish a win early (like turn 3 or earlier) and win through disruption turn 5+ and beyond. Grixis Storm is an established cEDH archetype, and that's most likely what you could slide these Commanders into (Kess and Jeleva are the usual Commanders for such a thing, but there's no reason you couldn't use partners even if they're a little suboptimal; it's the 99 (or 98, in this case) that would be most important to set in stone). Also, cEDH ain't cheap. Your deck will probably have a similar price tag to some of mine if you actually go all out on optimization (for example, check my Breya list here. It can win turn 2 with no acceleration at all, turn 1 with acceleration. The deck has a hard time with disruption, though, which is why it's geared toward winning as fast as possible. If that's what you have interest in, then a complete rework of this deck may be necessary as your mana costs are simply too high to support this at current.
So, that said, if you're just wanting a good Vial Smasher/Kraum deck, I can help with that. Keep an idea of swapping Kraum for Silas Renn in the back pocket, though, because he can be nice recursion at a low-creature table.
Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal + mana rocks is a great way to produce infinite spells cast and mana. It's generally easier to pull off than Rings + Monolith, and while it does require more moving parts, those parts are all cards you should be happy to see anyway (artifact or creature based ramp). As it stands, I only see 9 mana rocks in this deck- that number should be increased. Talisman of Dominance and Indulgence should go in, as should Fellwar Stone . Chrome Mox would be a nice inclusion as well. Charcoal Diamond and Sky Diamond make reasonable budget inclusions until you can get Mox Opal or Mox Diamond . That'll put you up to 15 mana rocks and 37 lands, so you could probably drop a land or two to hover around 50 mana sources. I also see that you have Power Artifact in the deck, and it might be a good idea to add Grim Monolith since those also produce infinite mana together (skip adding a Diamond to add this). I recommend dropping:
Metallurgic Summoning (card seems meh; it can win via Dramatic Scepter but your draw spells and Comet Storm, etc., do this already).
Platinum Angel (it's a nice card, but this doesn't really help you win unless you were absolutely going to lose after you reached 7 mana, and involves nobody having a kill spell. Most of the time, having removal or a counter would be straight up superior to running this card).
Kaervek the Merciless (he's a great effect but 7 mana is quite a lot).
Strionic Resonator (this doesn't do that much here, not that I can tell. I may be glossing over something, but it's not like this is a Brago deck where this goes infinite with a Sol Ring or something).
Invoke the Firemind (this isn't great unless you have infinite mana, and you already have better draw spells once you get infinite mana)
And 1 land. This'll let you fit the above mana rocks in.
Swap Torrential Gearhulk for Mission Briefing .
Swap out Murderous Cut for Toxic Deluge , Voidmage Husher for Stifle (the latter isn't reusable but it's 25% of the mana, which is huge). Fire Covenant is better at a lot of tables than Hero's Downfall, I'd make that swap. Curtain's Call could probably just be cut for something, anything, else.
I recommend putting Notion Thief into the deck, alongside Wheel of Fortune , Windfall , and possibly Winds of Change . Drawing 20+ cards in one turn all the while forcing your opponents down to 0 cards is hilariously useful, and each of the cards mentioned are reasonably good on their own. Cutting Reforge the Soul, and probably 2 of your worst extra turn/X spells might be valuable, here. Stunt Double could also be cut if you need the space but don't want to drop anything else.
Now, the most important thing about these cards is being able to find them! So, I recommend adding:
Lim-Dul's Vault , Fabricate , Merchant Scroll (finds Dramatic Reversal), Reshape (this one is hit or miss sometimes, but it can be very beneficial to find your Scepter or a mana rock capable of supporting Scepter), Tainted Pact (this deck is perfect for Pact; if you have Reversal and an X spell in your hand, it gets you Scepter. This would be a little better if you were using Vial Smasher/Thrasios since you wouldn't need an infinite mana outlet in hand to use it, but still, it's very, very strong). Frantic Search is free card filtering, and Muddle the Mixture can find anything 2 mana or function as a counter spell if you need it. The flexibility is worth the higher cost to tutor. I, at least, recommend Lim-Dul's Vault, Muddle the Mixture, and Frantic Search. Merchant Scroll would also be very nice.
Okay, so that's a bunch of changes, but you should notice a pretty sizable reduction in mana costs across the board, and some pet cards are still left in (copious extra turn spells, Mind's Dilation, etc.) that could probably be up for review at a later date. You should be able to reach 5 mana on turn 3/4, pop an extra turn spell or two, and then assemble an infinite mana combo to win. If you're wanting to go cEDH though, let me know, and I'll show you some things for Grixis Storm.
4 weeks ago
Hey, consider Tithe , Knight of the White Orchid and Mistveil Plains ? Tithe and Mistveil are excellent with Sunforger and Knight is nice to put a Shock land or Mistveil onto the battlefield. Tithe especially when playing five colors because it can potentially tutor for two Shock lands or one Shock land and Mistveil.
Consider Mardu as base colors instead of Boros? Because of the expensive deck budget I think playing only Boros is hindering your deck more than helping it; after all you can play all colors because of Najeela. Mardu gives you more black for some nice Warrior interactions ( Mindblade Render , Blood-Chin Rager ), combat interactions ( Tymna the Weaver , Azra Oddsmaker ), tutors ( Demonic Tutor , Diabolic Intent ), tokens ( Bitterblossom ) and to strengthen the Sunforger package ( Anguished Unmaking , Fire Covenant ).
4 weeks ago
Hey, been playing Mairsil for a few months now and here to offer some suggestions. But I also have some questions.
1: Are you married to infinite mana combos? MY experience is that they are ineffective because they require perfect hands. And due to your budget limit I would imagine Demonic and Vampiric Tutors are out of the question. Ditto Intuition. It's too bad because these three would really enable artifact based combos to be assembled easier. Of course there's Fabricate or Whir of Invention but these are sub-optimal to Black tutors which fetch anything you want. Board wipes for example, which are SO important in a Mairsil build. You should also run Mystical Tutor as it's within your budget and fetches maybe the most important card in the deck (Buried Alive) Also, DEFINITELY play Gamble is you're not running the black tutors. If there that doesn't care about the discard, this is it.
2: Pillowforts and Board Wipes. Which do you prefer? My personal experience is that pillowfort cards like Smoke Crawlspace and Caverns of Despair (or in your deck, Propaganda) are not only not always effective, they are prone to removal. Both from other players and from you caging Nev's Disk with Mairsil and establishing a soft lock. I would take the Last One Standing and mainboard it immediately along with the excellent Chandra's Ignition and if you're willing to go overbudget Toxic Deluge is also a must. Though cheaper $$$, but higher CMC, alternatives exist. You might also want to consider Fire Covenant as a mix between targeted and mass removal. Crypt Rats is also a good walking boardwipe and cage target. Though it is best when Chromatic Lanterns is on board or if you're running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Card Draw: First off: Fact or Fiction is your best friend. This is literally the best card draw card in Magic for this Commander. The reasons for which are pretty easy to see. As another commenter on Reddit said: Wheels. Wheels. Wheels. Windfall , Magus of the Wheel , but Jace's Archivist and Whispering Madness most of all since they can be stapled to Mairsil for further wheeling. You want to be POWERING through your deck. Especially since you are not/ cannot get the high end, low CMC tutors. For additional evil, add Legacy All Star Notion Thief . "Flash in Notion Thief at the end of your turn. My turn. Windfall. We all discard your hands. I draw 28 cards...you guys draw none" A few of the loot effects are fine for the extremely early game but I'd keep 3 max and replace the rest with FoF's and wheels.
Haste enablers: I am just going to assume you don't know about Hanweir Battlements and Flamekin Village you can lose Urabrask for sure and free up a slot for something else and also lose either Fervor or Thousand Year (which, as established, die to Disk...though despite dying to Disk I would recommend Lightning Greaves for the Shroud just as much as the Haste)
Counters: I would lose anything with 2 Blue in the casting cost in favor of things like Intervene . Keeping as much Blue open as possible for Aetherling and Quicksilver Elemental's abilities to be activated when needed. Negate is also a strong pick as, largely, your opponents creatures shouldn't be of much concern to you. You are mostly concerned with countering instants that try to kill Mairsil in response to an ability activation or, frustratingly, people attempting to counter Mairsil. To be specific put in the two cards I suggested and take out Counterspell and Wizard's Retort.
Cage Targets/ Creatures: Personally, I would lose the infinite mana stuff as it is convoluted in several ways, but to each their own. I'll try to keep my advice away from that issue save to say that: Your combos should really be two cards and preferably creatures so they and Aetherling can be dumped in one go with Buried Alive. (It's getting late here so I'm not going to offer any reasons from here on out but if you have questions I'll respond to them tomorrow) Out: Deadeye Nav, Duskmantle Guildmage, Knacksaw Clique, Mischievious Poltergeist, Oona, Soul of New Phyrexia, Urabrask, Walking Ballista. Maybe out: Geth, Memnarch, The Locust God (he may be worth keeping if you follow through on running a tonne of wheels). (I will suggest cards to run and wrap up this comment tomorrow, though feel more than free to hit me up in the meantime)
Fire Covenant occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%