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Creature — Cat Cleric
When Leonin Relic-Warder enters the battlefield, you may exile target artifact or enchantment.
When Leonin Relic-Warder leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control.
Leonin Relic-Warder Discussion
1 day ago
If annoys you i'll remove it, but you did a job (explaining thing that give the reader more clarity about the strategies) that i didn't so i think that's right to credit you.
In my table there's often a Zur the Enchanter against Meren of Clan Nel Toth or Animar, Soul of Elements , so Rest in Peace is always the first Zur tutor, and graveyard hate is a problem: better be prepared. Also Leonin Relic-Warder could be a temporary solution as long as you're looking for Mortify / Anguished Unmaking / Vindicate (the third will surely substitute Mortify as soon as possible).
Now - thank to your help - that I'm to 100 I can try and look if works or they're too heavy.
Thank you for your help! Yesterday i try it against a complete The First Sliver and it goes better than expected.
1 week ago
Cards that are over $1 that are auto-includes:
- Mulldrifter , which can easily be cast for 3 mana if you blink in response to the evoke trigger;
Cards that should go in: - Twilight Shepherd - your creatures never die! - Phyrexian Ingester - BUUUURP. Also should go in Yasova Dragonclaw. - Displace is a cheaper Ghostly Flicker for creatures only. - Pondering Mage is a great 5-drop for this deck. - Master Splicer is a cheap thing to flicker to get an army.
Cards that should go in for redundancy if I have to remove Brago:
- Angel of Condemnation
- Momentary Blink
- Nephalia Smuggler or Mistmeadow Witch . Probably the latter for sweeper insurance.
- Spine of Ish Sah
- Mnemonic Wall
Mean: - Tempest Caller flickered means nobody else attacks.
Cards that are not going in:
- Deadeye Navigator : NO. This card is borderline bannable in EDH.
3 weeks ago
Understand what your saying, most decks that rely on the commanders, usually once the commander resolves (caster maintains priority), it's too late, whatever it is that needs to get done, is done instant speed so removal is hard.
Some commanders like Kaalia of the Vast , that have to resolve, and then pass phases (into combat phase in this case), have a harder time. A few tricks we can use, 1) Grand Abolisher , 2) Silence , 3) Teferi's Protection , 4) Haste ( Dragon Tempest ) 5) Shroud ( Lightning Greaves ).
The way that i've configured this deck is 1) Primary win-con is Buried Alive + Reanimate , 2) Secondary win-con is Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead + Goblin Bombardment , 3) still trying to figure it out, currently Worldgorger Dragon + Animate Dead + Dragon Tempest . None of these win-cons use Kaalia of the Vast .
Kaalia of the Vast gives me some high-synergies 1) Kaalia of the Vast + Master of Cruelties eliminates an opponent, 2) Kaalia of the Vast + Razaketh, the Foulblooded usually tutors the win-con. Kaalia of the Vast can also drop in Interactive ADD to solve issues. Definitively no reliance on resolving ADD for combat damage.
What commander do you play, can strategize some plans for you. In the cEDH tournament this weekend, only cast Kaalia of the Vast in 1 of the rounds.
3 weeks ago
Update from this weekends cEDH tournament.
Won all rounds, but probably should have lost to a Kess, Dissident Mage in round 2, had a Glen Elendra Archmage resolved. I managed to Toxic Deluge it but then they Thoughtseize my Grim Tutor so was waiting for a tutor to pull a Swords to Plowshares . Then they tapped out on casting a Pact of Negation on my Bloodgift Demon (At the time, I only had Reflecting Pool (luckily they had played a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth which enabled it to be ) and they were trying to mitigate my draw. (Note: I kept a 0 land hand in that round because I had Mana Crypt , Arcane Signet , and Dark Ritual in hand. Soon as they had no , successfully resolved my combo (again), they had already Force of Will cast on me earlier.
Anyways, never used the Worldgorger Dragon at all, drew the Bogardan Hellkite in the last round, never played him. Each round got there the same way, Buried Alive + Reanimate . The last round I resolved a Razaketh, the Foulblooded , sac'd Kaalia of the Vast realized I didn't have enough , so had to wait a turn, then cast Kaalia of the Vast again, resolved an Avacyn, Angel of Hope , sac'd Kaalia of the Vast to pull a for Goblin Bombardment (post-combat) sacrifice all the Restoration Angel after casting Buried Alive + Reanimate .
Post the tournament, realized Demonic Consultation was too much of a dead draw, going to replace it with Plunge into Darkness , saw it played a couple times was not horrible, worst case just pulls a tutor usually.
Also worked that evening on replacing Worldgorger Dragon and Bogardan Hellkite but came up with nothing. I primary win-con all rounds, never went to Leonin Relic-Warder which is far safer secondary than Worldgorger Dragon . Still thinking a Doomsday is a better way to go, could do Doomsday + Night's Whisper and build a stack:
Leonin Relic-Warder (discard with Faithless Looting )
That's CMC7 though .
What I really need is another Buried Alive best I can think of is Final Parting >> Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead (to hand), but then still need a Goblin Bombardment . So the combo would be Final Parting + Goblin Bombardment or Animate Dead . So would be CMC9. Better than Doomsday CMC7 (stack) + = CMC10, and doesn't require a same turn enabler like Street Wraith . Still not right though. Hmm.
3 weeks ago
Ah, yes. Graveyard strategies always have an enthralling nature to them. Excellent choice in commander, as well.
I do have some recommendations for the deck.
One deck-building scheme I adhere to is fewer lands in place of cantrips. For your deck, you could cut some of the land base for Satyr Wayfinder and Grisly Salvage . They possess more value later in the game whilst filling up your yard for Karador. Ransack the Lab fulfills the same role. Taping the mana base towards early game cantrips also makes it more consistent to conduct your early game.
Altar of Dementia can earn you value even if a creature would die, permitting more options later.
You speak of win conditions in your description, thus I note Mortal Combat . That's a tricky build-around, so good luck there. Mindslicer is in my discard deck and often locks down the match, though people may not enjoy that.
As for removal, Anguished Unmaking , Despark , and Vindicate are universal and efficient, and Swords to Plowshares is quite possibly the best kill spell in the format. Ghastly Demise is also fun. If you wish to sacrifice creatures for gain, Angelic Purge is of use and Necrotic Sliver may be brought back later. Leonin Relic-Warder and Ravenous Chupacabra serve a similar purpose.
With such a high mana curve, more acceleration in ramp could be of aid. Outside of Temple of the False God and Phyrexian Altar which need some set-up before they do anything, there are only seven cards for ramp. I would add Birds of Paradise or Paradise Druid , some mana dork in that essence; Kodama's Reach , Rampant Growth , or Explosive Vegetation ; and perhaps Songs of the Damned as a one-shot influx of resource.
That is all from me, my apparitional liege. Fare thee well, and rejoice in haunting.
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. I don't have any experience with Licia, never played the card, but I do have experience with Mardu and life gaining/aristocrat strategies with Alesha.
Cards to consider to upgrade your deck are tutors and an aristocrat combo. Cards within the budget to consider adding:
- Demonic Tutor
- Diabolic Intent
- Enlightened Tutor
- Blood Artist : combo piece, triggers when any creature dies including your opponents creatures.
- Animate Dead : combo piece, two drop reanimation of your own creature or an opponents.
- Leonin Relic-Warder : combo piece.
- Buried Alive : combo enabler, tutor for both Warder and Razaketh putting them into your graveyard.
- Entomb : combo enabler, tutor for Warder and put it into your graveyard.
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded : combo piece, repeatable tutor.
- Arcane Signet
- Mother of Runes : repeatable protection from targeted removal and in combat for Licia, protection of the color of the blocking creature makes it so it can't block Licia.
- Blind Obedience : repeatable tap of potential blockers your opponents play making it easier for Licia to attack. Extort is a way to gain life and in multiplayer Commander you pay one mana to gain 3 life if you have three opponents.
- Authority of the Consuls
- Reanimate : one drop reanimation, use life to reanimate your creature or opponents.
- Chaos Warp
- Fetid Heath
- Rugged Prairie
- Graven Cairns
The most important cards to consider adding for upgrades are tutors. If you can afford them they're some of the best investments you can make in Commander because they can be played in all decks you make no matter the strategy. When playing combos then tutors are very helpful to find the combo pieces or Necropotence . Tutors can replace high mana cost cards, redundancy or reduce the amount of win conditions. Which in return creates smoother gameplay, reducing the avg. CMC of your deck, speeding up your deck.
Aristocrat strategies can strengthen your deck and give you another avenue to victory using life without needing Licia. Aristocrats are good for gaining life as well as making your opponents lose life which can be a win condition. A combo for Mardu aristocrats is called Razacats. It's Leonin Relic-Warder and Animate Dead with Razaketh, the Foulblooded , but you don't even need Razaketh. He's played with reanimation to tutor for Warder/Animate. Create the loop and then using Warder as repeatable sac to tutor for and assemble other combos. Razaketh's ability to tutor is powerful when you have a lot of life to use.
The two card Leonin Relic-Warder / Animate Dead combo are the cards to consider adding because it creates an infinite dying or creature ETB loop of Warder. If before you create the loop have on the battlefield an aristocrat such as Blood Artist then this combo kills all your opponents and you gain infinite life. The combo has interaction with the overall life gaining strategy. It can be used with Soul Warden / Soul's Attendant . One of them has to be on the battlefield before you create the loop to gain infinite life because Warder is repeatedly ETB and each time you gain 1 life.
When gaining infinite life you can add other cards to win such as Aetherflux Reservoir , Cliffhaven Vampire , Sanguine Bond . Aetherflux is the best option because you can cast it after you have made infinite life and broken the loop to use all the life you gained to kill each opponent. Declare you're gaining infinite life with the combo then break the loop then cast Reservior. Cliffhaven or Bond would have to be along with one of Warden or Attendant on the battlefield before you created the loop.
Sun Titan can reanimate Animate Dead which can be helpful to keep creating the loop as long as Warder is in your graveyard. If you are interested in learning more about this combo then I will explain it further.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Beacon of Immortality
- Storm Herd
- Approach of the Second Sun
- True Conviction
- Minion of the Wastes
- Serra Avatar
- Sorin, Grim Nemesis
- Hide / Seek
- Nyx-Fleece Ram
- Sun Droplet
- Tainted Sigil
- Debt to the Deathless
- Angel of Vitality
- Diabolic Tutor
- 1x Swamp
- 1x Plains
- Tainted Field
The majority of these suggested cuts are high mana cost cards. This is to reduce the high avg. CMC that's 3.7. To improve your deck cut some these high mana cost cards and replace them with low mana cost tutors which can search for and get the better cards into your hand. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
on the battlefield I cast
copying the Leonin Relic-Warder.
I now get a bolster ETB trigger and an ETB trigger to exile an artifact or enchantment. I chose to resolve the latter first and target the Metamorph itself. Now I get a LTB trigger which returns the Metamorph upon resolving.
I understand that I can loop this infinitely, creating infinite ETB, LTB and bolster triggers.
My question would be if I can use the infinite bolsters on Anafenza and, say, another random creature, or would the Metamorph copy (as a 2/2 Leonin Relic-Warder) "attract" the counters (and lose them again upon leaving)?
Leonin Relic-Warder occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%