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Creature — Dragon
Lieutenant — As long as you control your commander, Tyrant's Familiar gets +2/+2 and has "Whenever Tyrant's Familiar attacks, it deals 7 damage to target creature defending player controls."
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Tyrant's Familiar Discussion
1 month ago
3 months ago
Look forward to hearing more from you Jimmy_Chinchila.
Thanks for checking the deck out Rzepkanut! We seem to have similar instincts for card choices. I looked at Tyrant's Familiar during the first draft but it relies on having the commander in play. Mage-Ring Responder was more reliable and bypasses the drawback, but I ultimately went with Grimgrin, Corpse-Born. I also considered Kessig Cagebreakers but as you pointed out since the deck doesn't have that many creatures it doesn't make many wolves. I tested Blade of Selves initially too but not many of the cards rely on ETBs, and it only makes a few copies. Which could still be enough for something like Gisela, Blade of Goldnight or Medomai the Ageless or sometimes Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. I'll put that back on the radar.
3 months ago
The deck looks pretty fun I definitely appreciate all of the silly combos. It does seem like maybe you could use some things to pull the Mana curve down a bit. One creature that I think would be especially awesome to be able to turn tokens into is Tyrant's Familiar. I know that it's another seven drop but that card is hilariously powerful. Another card that came to mind while reading your list is Blade of Selves. I really like having Genesis Chamber in Decks that want to flood the board with tokens however this one doesn't have a whole ton of actual creature cards to cast so it might not be great here. Same thing with Kessig Cagebreakers, I feel like that card would be amazing if you have enough creatures to meaningfully trigger it. It's hard to suggest cuts without actually seeing how the deck works cuz it's kind of weird. But good luck and Happy Gathering!
4 months ago
Good but bumpy, sort of like the base commander dragon precon. I can tell you straight up that a five color deck needs a small number of basic lands, and almost exclusively lands that produce 2+ colors. Your mana fetch/ramp must be adjusted accordingly as well.
Mordant Dragon, while good, I'm not super fond of. Orator of Ojutai is kind of ehn IMO, mostly because while it draws you a card, it doesn't benefit from things like Dragonlord's Servant's or Utvara Hellkite's abilities. Taurean Mauler, while it is a dragon for all intents and purposes, it doesn't really add anything to the rest of the deck, only itself. Tyrant's Familiar is good in a way, but it relies very heavily on casting your general to be useful, and The Ur-Dragon is often better off not being cast because it's so expensive.
4 months ago
Oh damn well regardless I think I'll be adding Mage Slayer, perhaps replacing my Orochi Hatchery, since when I've gotten it off 1/1 creatures seemed a lackluster use of mana over burn or large ones with abilities (although my deck has a lot of card draw so I had fewer issues finding those). I think that will actually be a large help in taking several opponents down on a single turn due to not having to completely tap out to burn someone. Also I can just imagine playing a Tyrant's Familiar and equipping this to take out their blocker and make them eat 17.
4 months ago
Hey! I saw your list on the FB group. Here is some feedback...
Since you a running green, you do not need mana rocks, rather, you need just get out your lands faster. Rocks can be destroyed, lands usually arent. As such, I suggest you remove the following...
Fork in the Road - There is much better ramp
Ground Assault - Much better removal
Slagstorm - See above
Sylvan Scrying - Gets you any land card, but since you don't run specialty lands like Cradle or Eye of Ugin, its best to replace this with better ramp
Blanchwood Armor - better in a mono green deck, also auras have the 2-1 issue (try to place aura on creature, they doomblade in response).
Vessel of Nascency - Weak card
Vessel of Volatility - Weak, nonrepeatable ramp
Pit Fight - Better versions of this card exist
Cards to put in Show
Cultivate - better ramp
Decimate - really good removal
Hull Breach - see above
Explosive Vegetation - better ramp
Kodama's Reach - see above
Nissa's Pilgrimage - see above
Rishkar's Expertise - Card draw and free stuff is cool
Skyshroud Claim - better ramp
Traverse the Outlands - Have a 6/6, Xenagos makes it 12/12, cast this, get 12 lands. Seems good.
Beast Within - PERMANENT REMOVAL IN GREEN!!!
Song of the Dryads - see above! (extra points if used on their commander)
Garruk, Primal Hunter - His -3 is like a Soul's majesty (similar to Rishkars expertise)
Greater Good - Card draw is always great
Malignus - Used to one shot an opponent with your commander
Tyrant's Familiar - speaks for itself
Thunderfoot Baloth - Trample is key!
I can give you more suggestions if you like. I see your deck is budget so feel free to ignore the more costly cards and put them in an acquireboard for trades/purchase later on.
5 months ago
Haha I haven't quite gotten my opponents to that point with this deck yet- I'm pretty close to an X% winrate, where X=(1/[The number of people at the table])*100. I'm definitely happy with that for now, as I believe Un-cards are being re-banned sometime this month, and I would hate to have my pod pull the "well it's banned" argument one day after the amount of work put into this deck, as it doesn't really work with any black-bordered commander!
I like the idea of Tyrant's Familiar, as obviously most of the time the only way it's coming into play is through Momma G. The built-in haste is appealing as well. Inferno Titan makes sense as well, especially with the ability to mash them with Vampire Nighthawk or Gifted Aetherborn. The only problem comes down to figuring out what to pull OUT! I'll definitely put some more thought into it- thanks a ton for the ideas!
5 months ago
You are very welcome CivilizedSin! Thanks for posting such an awesome list!
I played the deck for the first time today....after winning two pods my opponents were begging me to play another deck lolz
I'm also running Tyrant's Familiar and Inferno Titan due to the amount of damage they deal out (especially when melded)...as the more creatures destroyed = more targets you have to meld with Grusilda ;)