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Whenever a dragon you control attacks, put a 6/6 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
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Utvara Hellkite Discussion
2 days ago
Deck looks really good, and I wouldn't change much. Only thing I would add for sure is Shaman of Forgotten Ways for an alternate win condition. Ruric Thar, the Unbowed, Summoning Trap, Archetype of Endurance and Prowling Serpopard could work wonders in a blue meta. Ghalta, Primal Hunger and Utvara Hellkite make great beaters.
5 days ago
I agree with Sarkhan being taken out. Hell, in my Ur-Dragon deck he sticks around because he can make a token, but that's just a difference in the interests of our decks. I like your ideas for what to replace him with. Have you considered Dragon Mage, though? It might be a repeatable wheel like Whispering Madness, and you can use Scion to fetch it. IMO, they're comparable effects and if you can get through unblocked to get the ciphered Whispering Madness off, you can get through unblocked to get Dragon Mage's effect.
Both Chrome Mox and Phyrexian Tower seem too costly to use to me. How likely are you to have a throwaway creature for the Tower or a throwaway card in the necessary colors for Chrome Mox, you know? Mana Confluence might make for a more reasonable replacement, though it always costs 1 life to tap it unless you give it another tap effect. Since you're not afraid to have a land that can only generate colored mana for Dragons (Cavern of Souls and Haven of the Spirit Dragon in particular), you could also run a copy of Path of Ancestry.
I see what you mean with Utvara Hellkite. I don't see why you'd replace it with Entomb, though. Maybe bring in Balefire Dragon from your Maybeboard? I think that Balefire might more sufficiently fill that card slot.
6 days ago
Hi shub, I was glad to find your deck since I couldn't find others that were focusing on Deceiver of Form. Since I've been finetuning my own Deceiver of Form deck, I do have some thoughts and suggestions.
A token strategy would create more bodies to be transformed by Deceiver of Form. Awakening Zone and From Beyond ramp you while also providing bodies. Utvara Hellkite squares the number of creatures you have by spawning dragons.
Conduit of Ruin searches for the Deceiver, and also reduces the cost of your creatures.
Lord of the Void is good on its own and ridiculous if you have an army of them.
Savage Ventmaw gives so much mana if you attack with a few of them.
Avatar of Woe goes well with the Deceiver and doesn't wipe your army unlike Elesh Norn without Mirror Gallery.
Gilt-Leaf Archdruid can steal all the lands from a player if you have at least 7 creatures, although you aren't playing other druids to benefit from it without the Deceiver.
Scroll Rack is really good for setting up creatures on the top of your library.
Anyway, it's great to see a Deceiver of Form deck. Do check out my deck too and let me know what you think!
Commander / EDH
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1 week ago
It might be fun to play a ton of damage spells and damage boosting effects with a Neheb, the Eternal, on board. Then you could use Neheb's mana to make a giant X/X creature like Endless One, Hangarback Walker, Phyrexian Marauder, Shifting Wall, or Walking Ballista to fling with Brion. Maybe use Enlightened Tutor to grab any of those artifact creatures. An Utvara Hellkite and a few dragon buddies would give you a bunch of 6/6 bodies to fling, too.
3 weeks ago
Good but bumpy, sort of like the base commander dragon precon. I can tell you straight up that a five color deck needs a small number of basic lands, and almost exclusively lands that produce 2+ colors. Your mana fetch/ramp must be adjusted accordingly as well.
Mordant Dragon, while good, I'm not super fond of. Orator of Ojutai is kind of ehn IMO, mostly because while it draws you a card, it doesn't benefit from things like Dragonlord's Servant's or Utvara Hellkite's abilities. Taurean Mauler, while it is a dragon for all intents and purposes, it doesn't really add anything to the rest of the deck, only itself. Tyrant's Familiar is good in a way, but it relies very heavily on casting your general to be useful, and The Ur-Dragon is often better off not being cast because it's so expensive.
3 weeks ago
Kindred Discovery is an absolute beast in any tribal deck. It is worthy to note the double blue yes, but in 5 colours you should have enough ways to produce double blue in some way, and especially with the amount of good dual lands and fetches in that manabase WOW. If it leaves mana open to not be used the giving turn due to lack of playable cards in your hand, it will draw you lots of new cards you might be able to play.
Bower Passage: Cheap, effective and a nice way to let dragons go through other flying creatures as they are one of the things to stop dragons in combat.
Signets might be a good include as some of the mana rocks, to make the rocks more effective.
Utvara Hellkite Too good not to include ;)
I actually love the name, the reason i came in here ;)
I think some of the smaller one time utilities like Foul-Tongue Invocation are a little to weak, and might be good to swap for more dragons, since 19 dragons seem a little to low for a tribal deck ;) Might want to increase it to around 24-26 :)
Lastly, Great job on the mana base, more effective cards to play and this deck will be nuts ;)
Those are my thoughts, hope you can use the advice :)
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
Here's a list of those cards I threw at you in the Discord: