Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Ob Nixilis, the Adversary

Legendary Planeswalker — Nixilis

Casualty X. The copy isn't legendary and has starting loyalty X. (As you cast this spell, you may sacrifice a creature with power X. When you do, copy this spell. The copy becomes a token.)

+1: Each opponent loses 2 life unless they discard a card. If you control a Demon or Devil, you gain 2 life.

-2: Create a 1/1 red Devil creature token with "When this creature dies, this deals 1 damage to any target (creature, player or planeswalker)."

-7: Target player draws seven cards and loses 7 life.

tindolos on Masters of Evil - Upgrade

3 months ago

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wallisface on Zombardment

4 months ago

The list looks good. As someone who played something very similar previously (in a word when Fury was still legal), i’m not convinced you want Aether Vial or Deadly Dispute… the deck functions best when being hyper-aggressive, and while both of these cards serve as strong tempo-plays, they also buy your opponent time to stabilise. I’d rather see more aggressive options like Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia and/or Ob Nixilis, the Adversary, which both play well into the sacrifice payoffs while also applying more pressure to the opponent.

jacobpmesser on Self Mill Goyf

4 months ago

Of note, I haven't play the Souls of the Lost with Ob Nixilis, the Adversary. You can literally have a turn 3 15 point swing... and if you can get an attack in first, GG.

You can also aim for alt-wins. Altar of Dementia. And with The Skullspore Nexus you can sac a goyf to Altar, you or opp mill 10. Get a 10/10 dino fungus and mill for another 10. You can play for your own self-mill win with Thassa's Oracle or Laboratory Maniac.

There is a lot of gy hate and I always play with one or the other side for alt-win.

I'm also considering maindeck Leyline of the Void because so much of magic these days are graveyard based.

jacobpmesser on Self Mill Goyf

4 months ago

4 Stitcher's Supplier 4 Hedron Crab 3 Satyr Wayfinder 4 Urborg Lhurgoyf 4 Cruel Somnophage 4 Souls of the Lost 2 Nighthowler 3 Grist, the Hunger Tide 2 Wonder 4 Unearth 3 Brazen Borrower 1 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant 1 Glasspool Mimic  Flip 1 Kazandu Mammoth  Flip

1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb

That's a good base. Take what works and replace what you don't like.

Exp. I've been playing iterations of this for years now and eight one drops are important. You need to start filling your gy ASAP. These are the two best. If you don't want to go into blue, there are cards like Gnawing Vermin but for me, m2 isn't enough. The -1/-1 is helpful so there is some leeway based on META. If I dabble in other colors, Shriekhorn is my go-to.

Satyr's spot can be removed but I play a low land count due to the two modal lands (Glasspool/Mammoth). Mire Triton is another favorite because Deathtouch and gainlfie. It's also a META call. I don't like others like Skull Prophet. If I were playing The Mycotyrant I'd consider it because it 'mills over time' (MOT) but once your opp sees what youre on theyd kill it before you get a chance to use it.

So, in this list I'm 12 goyfs. Eight can self-mill (SM) and the other is useful (Souls) in getting Wonder out of your hand. You can also sac Stitcher to it if you're a T1 Stitcher T2 Souls. Every card in this deck is a permanent besides Unearth so if you fetched at all, you could have a T2 6/6-8/8 Souls of the Lost and that aint to shabby.

I have always played at least 1-2 Nighthowler. It makes those Stitchers, Crabs, and Satyrs a threat and more often than not, takes two spells to kill it (when it's bestowed).

I view this deck as a sort of aggro deck and keeping with 99% creature theme, Grist and Brazen Borrower are my interaction. You can bring in whatever you want (obviously) but it's also provides fliers for Nighthowler, Grist has a built in win-con and protects itself. I always play a Boseiju, Who Endures and if I play more, -1 Unearth for Life from the Loam and if I'm really frisky, I'll add a few more legends, play more of the Channel Lands and another Life/Loam. I've got a oops all Channel lands were all the other lands are Modal and I play Amulet of Vigor with Shriekhorn and use Emry, Lurker of the Loch as a self-mill recur piece. It's fun.

Sidisi is a MOT that can help you go wide. Every time you mill, you get a zombie. I use this in near every build when I'm in color. I've tested Blossoming Tortoise but save that for a Mosswort Bridge version I play and if I can't get that going I want to be able to cast the top end. Shigeki, Jukai Visionary, Molderhulk, Aether Vial + Dryad Arbor help get me there. But just playing the new Squirming Emergence is so much easier than playing all those other cards.

You can find a way to bring in draw, life, other interaction, etc.. it's on you. There are times were I play Jace, the Perfected Mind or Visions of Beyond for draw. Spellstutter Sprite and a few spots for other faeries like Likeness Looter (flying faerie goyfs!).

But that's the base. Do what you want.. because you can literally do anything. I've got a junk list focused on recur with Unearth, Renegade Rallier, Necropanther, Athreos, God of Passage... a jund/grixis list that uses Ob Nixilis, the Adversary and Orcish Bowmasters (sac goyf to etb Ob Nix, Token Ob forces opp to draw 7 for -7 life. Bowmasters deals another 6 plus you get a 6/6 orc token (+2 more for paper Ob +1 if they can't discard). That's a 15 point swing, not including attacks. Another Grixis list that plays Kroxa, Flamewake Phoenix, Seasoned Pyromancer and Ox.

My favorite - game 1, I'm a mill deck that sideboard converts into self-mill game 2. It still deals with the gy but game 1 youre spell heavy and game 2 youre creature heavy.

Anyway, have fun.

Blackgate on Into The Wilds We Go! (Jund Midrange Adventure)

4 months ago

Thanks Dani3377! It’s a fun deck to play.

I think I’ll add another copy of Ob Nixilis, the Adversary - such a good card in the deck!

I have been struggling between Thoughtseize and Concealing Curtains  Flip for the 1-drop discard effect slot. I found Concealing Curtains  Flip good for a midrange deck as an early blocker as it stresses your opponent out in anticipation for the transformation (so it becomes a great way to rid your opponents hand if removal). If you had another card in mind to replace for Thoughtseize please let me know I will try your recommendation and actually try Thoughtseize with playtesting!

Thanks for the suggestion

itsbuzzi on Interested in what online tools …

6 months ago

I ran into a similar issue using my favorite tool as listed above. To find more advanced and complex odds I made myself 2 excel spreadsheets, one that will randomize your cards, give each a unique number and show you the order of the deck and thus calculate the odds of whatever you are looking for (given you can code it properly) and another sheet to save the results in given a "Yes" "No" variable and then spitting the sums of those back in. It can run 90k iterations without crashing (much).

An example is I have a Jeskai Ensoul deck in Pioneer and at one time splashed Ob Nixilis, the Adversary and wanted to know the odds of when I drew him I could cast him.

mada-mada on Bombardier Gold

1 year ago

Maybe the Ob Nixilis, the Adversary could be a nice addition if you're lacking creatures.

wallisface on Grixis wincons viability

1 year ago

I think you're going about this a bit wrong. Grixis decks typcically don't want to be winning by any kind of big flashy-combos, or high-mana-cards. Their gameplan is typically to grind away any kind of proactive play from the opponent, and then quickly edge-out a win before the opponent can recoup from all that early-game disruption.

To that end, iconic Grixis spells include Lightning Bolt, Fatal Push, Inquisition of Kozilek, Thoughtseize, Counterspell, Spell Pierce, and Stubborn Denial, as well as occasionally some stuff like Drown in the Loch, Expressive Iteration, and Unholy Heat. Their creatures are often cards that can hit hard fast, or come with free value - things like Death's Shadow, Snapcaster Mage, Dragon's Rage Channeler, Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer, Gurmag Angler, Ledger Shredder, and occasionally things like Tasigur, the Golden Fang or Murktide Regent.

So, their gameplan is typically a very straightforward one - every one of their cards provides value on its own, everything is fairly low-mana-curve, and the overall goal is to quickly disrupt your opponents ability to play, and then kill them before they recover.

In terms of the cards you've suggested, I would say they don't really fit into any kind of typical Grixis shell, for the following reasons:

  • Cormela, Glamour Thief is a very high-costing card with very low relative value for that mana-investment. Same goes for Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God.

  • Grapeshot is a combo card and something better having a deck dedicated towards making it work. Instead of trying to do value-plays, you try and combo off asap. This archetype already exists in Modern as Storm, so has no real home/reason-to-exist outside of that. Similarly, as Grixis isn't trying to do any flashy combos, Manamorphose & Dramatic Reversal have super-limited/non-existant use.

  • Lazav, the Multifarious doesn't really do anything or add anything important to be worth building around, imo. Grixis decks especially often have a super-low creature count, which makes its ability pretty niche. Maybe it's a "pet card" that could fit as a 1-of in a death's shadow brew?

  • Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger is a fine card to include in Grixis decks, as many decks already run this (though often as only a 1-of or 2-of at most) - it definately requires some deckbuilding considerations to include it though. I think Ob Nixilis, the Adversary could potentially fit within a Grixis shell, though Grixis decks do often run a very small quantity of creatures, and this may pose a problem.

Now, most of these cards you can still easily build decks around, though I would say you generally don't want to be trying to fit them into typical "Grixis" builds. Some of these cards fit a lot better in UR combo decks (Grapeshot, Manamorphose) for example. I would say that all the cards you've mentioned will have some home within modern, baring only Cormela, Glamour Thief (the card is trash) and Dramatic Reversal (there's just better ways to achieve anything this card is trying to achieve).

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