Heliod, God of the Sun

Legendary Enchantment Creature — God

Indestructible

As long as your devotion to white is less than five, Heliod isn't a creature. (Each {W} in the mana costs of permanents you control counts towards your devotion to white.)

Other creatures you control have vigilance.

{2}{W}{W}: Create a 2/1 white Cleric enchantment creature token.

Tokens

• Enchantment Cleric 2/1 W

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

Darsul on Thought and Talon

3 months ago

Hello,

 If your looking for input and/or Suggestions you need to help us out and give and ideal what your looking for. Raffine, Scheming Seer is a great open ended commander that it's hard to help out w/out know the direction you aiming for. That said, what I found/find out with my deck and no matter how you play him you want to be attacking every turn, this tends to leave you open on the back swing so War Tax cards like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison or flip side play things like Heliod, God of the Sun and Odric, Lunarch Marshal (+ Vigilance toon out). Long story short your deck looks weak to the crack back.

 Another thing I find is the Wonder is < Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
. Most of your team is sporting fly as is.

As for real suggestions how do you want to take him? +1/+1 you could play cards like Tenured Inkcaster or Oona's Blackguard
                                                     Reanimator Unburial Rites or Vohar, Vodalian Desecrator
                                                     Discard    Bone Miser or Faith of the Devoted
                                                     wheel      Queza, Augur of Agonies or Feast of Sanity

anyway, cheers and GL

DreadKhan on Tutorless Commander?

6 months ago

There is a 'famous' (by cEDH standards he's famous) named Charles, aka the Mono White Guy, and he often takes Mono-White to tournaments, yet he is a consistent performer, he even placed high with decks that skimp on mana rocks. He has a famous Heliod, God of the Sun deck built around making Vigilance even more useful via Stax. I'm not sure if an average cEDH player could do anything with his list without tons of practice, but obviously skilled players can do well with Mono-White at the most competitive tables.

TypicalTimmy on Skelly Mannder

1 year ago

I also need to make a correction. When I said that a creature whose toughness is reduced to zero, a la -X/-X, it's complicated.

It does "die", because "dying" is a term meant to denote moving from the battlefield, specifically, to the graveyard, specifically.

When toughness is reduced to 0, be it through combat damage, non-combat damage, or -X/-X, the creature does in fact die.

The difference here is that a creature who dies thanks to combat damage or noncombat damage is also "destroyed".

Destroyed is prevented with indestructible.

But you do not "destroy" a creature with a spell such as Death Wind. This is why a card such as Heliod, God of the Sun can die to a Death Wind but not a Murder.

The point here is that there becomes a little bit of confusion as to how these all interaction with Regenerate.

If a creature was hit by a Terminate or a Lightning Bolt or blocked by a huge 7/7, it would have either been outright Destroyed, sustained lethal noncombat damage, or been dealt lethal combat damage.

It dies.

Regenerate then says;

• "Wooah there partner! Just one darn tootin' second here! You can't go to the graveyard just yet. Get that damage outta here, and bingo bango bongo your ass is tapped."

Problem is, -X/-X isn't damage.

It isn't removed.

So it's toughness is still zero.

So the next time state based actions occur, if it still has Toughness 0, to the graveyard it goes.

pedroedmarcos on How Replacements effects work when …

1 year ago

Hey there,

Sometimes I f** hate myself for situations like this one. Let's say cast Replenish and in my graveyard I have a Heliod, God of the Sun, Starfield of Nyx and Opalescence. I already asked and read many times about how gods of theros interact with opalescence by who entered first, but here I have 3 replacements that can determine the power and thoughness of my god and all of them entered AT THE SAME TIME. So in a situation like this how would it work?

TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge

1 year ago

:O

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The way the Demigod naming convention works is the creature's name eludes toward what domain their respective God presides over. For example, Daxos, Blessed by the Sun and Heliod, God of the Sun.

Hence, Zarturok, Bred for Slaughter because of Mogis, God of Slaughter.

Taking that, make a Demigod for another 2-color God and use the same naming convention.

Also, note that on all Demigods, either their Power or their Toughness are equal to their devotion, but not both.

And yes, Demigods are UNCOMMON in rarity. So either keep their power level low, or have a serious drawback like mine does. :)

Crow_Umbra on Nani?!?

1 year ago

Solid deck! My only suggestion would be to include a couple of Vigilance anthems if you want to be more focused on Extra Combats. I see you already have Brave the Sands in your Maybe List. It's a fun card that I've liked each time I've played it. The extra blocks def help fill in some gaps for board (re)builds.

A couple universal options to check out are Serra's Blessing and Heliod, God of the Sun. I'd recommend Always Watching and/or Intangible Virtue, but they're kinda narrow since they only care about non-tokens and tokens respectively.

Having at least two Vigilance anthems will help to ensure that all of your creatures can attack on Aurelia's third combat.

Cool to see meta specific edits and variations.

TypicalTimmy on Does Flanking bypass Indestructible?

1 year ago

So we know if a creature had Indestructible, dealing lethal damage won't kill it. For example, my opponent had a Heliod, God of the Sun and I deal 7 damage to it, combat, non-combat or a mixture, he won't die.

However, a Death Wind for -6/-6 will kill him.

My understanding is that even if you hit him with a Lightning Bolt for 3 damage, as long as that 3 remains marked on him, a Death Wind for -3/-3 will kill him.

Furthermore, DW at -3/-3 and then blocking with a 4/4 will kill him.

If all of this is correct, does Flanking also work? For example, I attack with some 5/5 who happens to have Flanking. Heliod blocks.

Heliod gets -1/-1 until end of turn due to Flanking. Since he doesn't have this ability, he gets the penalty.

He moves from a 5/6 down to a 4/5. Then he is dealt 5 combat damage.

On him, until end of turn, he has 5 combat damage marked and -1/-1 marked.

Therefore, just as with the above examples, he should still die, despite having indestructible, correct?

DreadKhan on

1 year ago

If you want to add a few lands, you could consider removing the whole life gain package, most of those cards aren't especially good unless you're all in on that strategy. Some other stuff you might switch for a land could be Sephara, Mesa Enchantress, Phyrexian Unlife (do you have a combo with this I'm missing?), Felidar Sovreign (I wouldn't be too confidant in it, as it's easy to remove, and even if it's indestructible it can be exiled), and maybe Suppression Field unless it seems to be really useful, in my experience I usually would rather have a removal option or wipe.

Looking at your list more closely, I think you could run Swords to Plowshares, Heliod, God of the Sun for vigilance and a mana sink, Archon of Emeria for it's combination Rule of Law effect and very relevant land hate. Tragic Arrogance is shockingly good in White, and lets you keep your Commander if you want. Skyclave Relic is considerably better than Darksteel Ingot.

Nice work!