The First Sliver
Legendary Creature — Sliver
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.)
Sliver spells you cast have cascade.
|Have (2)||, Stryfe_|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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The First Sliver Discussion
2 months ago
Tobuts, I really appreciate the chance to discuss a Burgeoning Sliver build. This is fun. Doombeard1984, it's also great to hear from you as well. I appreciate the well wishes. I'm managing my Hive just fine - I hope the same for you and yours as well. Have you had a chance to play paper magic? I've managed to get together a small casual EDH playgroup. I've been playing mostly precons as a result of that, but hey - magic is magic.
Tobuts, I must disagree with slotting in Darksteel Ingot for Mox Diamond . Indestructability is nice and all, but few players at the table would be willing to use removal on your mana rocks outside of a well timed Vandalblast effect. Not to mention, you'd be spending on a rock - there are so many better choices before you invest into spending so much mana on a turn. I maintain that the Talisman cycle is your best bet, or maybe even a Commander's Sphere , Coalition Relic (yields so much more value than Darksteel Ingot , despite having a CMC). Including Noble Hierarch or Birds of Paradise are also viable options - but more vulnerable ones. Personally, I opted to exclude anything that is a filthy non-sliver simply due to a personal build choice. Also, I must implore you to not use Lotus Bloom unless The First Sliver is your commander (and honestly even that is a stretch) to make the card viable. Just to note - when you cascade a spell with suspend, it is simply cast and is not exiled from the game with suspend counters on it. Honestly, Lotus Bloom belongs in a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder deck.
Wheel of Fortune is a rather pricey pick up. Full disclosure - I picked mine up for about 30 USD back in the day, and even then I was upset because I thought I was overpaying lol. If only I knew about the Reserved List buyout that was to come. If you are committed to picking up a Reserved List card, and you know you will enjoy it for years to come then get it. Otherwise, i'd try out either of the previously suggested cards for the slot first - then make your decision.
I'm glad we're both on the same page in regards to Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, it's a perfect substitute. As for The Great Henge - I don't think it would be a very good fit for this deck. Why? The average power for most creatures is well below 7. Additionally, I like to consider each card in silo - if for some reason my opponents were removing my Legendary slivers at just the right times, that would leave The Great Henge as a dead card as far as I'm concerned. I get why anyone would be excited about it though - it's literally keyword soup of all the things magic players like to do in green on one card. Just unfortunately, it's just a card that doesn't fit in this deck. My opinion may change in the future though - so who knows? Maybe i'll try it out one game and it just slaps
As for your manabase, use what you feel is right for you. My manabase was built with having literally the best and most efficient manabaase possible for a Sliver tribal deck with cost not being a factor. Such a ridiculous concept for a manabase won't work for everyone so I implore you to use what you know is financially feasible for you. However, i'm a big proponent of proxies. I love em'. Sure, I do own these cards as they are special to me, and all have a story (for the most part) but it would be absolutely silly to walk out of the house with a 15 thousand+ deck of cards. I wouldn't be able to even focus on the game - I'd be hoping and praying that I don't bend anything while shuffling or hope that no one steals one of my cards. Additionally, if you are in a playgroup that loves power simply ask what they would find acceptable and proxy to your heart's content. Heck, even Wizards official policy on proxies pretty much echoes my thoughts expressed here. They only care if you're bringing proxies to official DCI events. That's when they'd say "no". So again, as long as your playgroup is cool with it - then do it.
3 months ago
The Last Myr
Legendary Artifact Creature - Myr
Sacrifice an artifact you control: Put a +1/+1 counter on The Last Myr. If that artifact was a myr, The Last Myr gains indestructible and hexproof until end of turn.
A glitch in it's system allowed it to turn on its own kind. This left it alive but lonely.
The First Sliver help you get a increase the number of slivers you have so i thought it would be fitting if The Last Myr would help you decrease the number of myr you control (plus its usually going to be the last myr on the battlefield). Ninjad though so I'll do the next challenge.
Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
Legendary Creature - Praetor
Whenever a permenant in put into a graveyard from the battlefield, exile the top card of that players library.
You may cast non-land cards exiled with Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
I'm assuming you were reffering to just the five New Phyrexia praetors in your challenge because Gix is actually a praetor as well, as mentioned in the flavour text of Grafted Skullcap , Bereavement and the vangaurd card for Gix (I couldn't figure out how to get the formatting to bring up the card sorry).
Create a creature who is trying to create a masterpiece of some sort or a card which inspires a creature somehow.
4 months ago
tgood4 as you may have surmised, I don't play this deck anymore unfortunately. With the rise of partner commanders I disassembled it for The First Sliver and when I still couldn't beat 'em I joined 'em and now play Thrasios, Triton Hero / Tymna the Weaver .
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is a very tempting card on paper, but I think that it likely runs into the very same issues I outlined above for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . So for those reasons I probably wouldn't run it. I did make some other minor changes after looking at the list again. See the new update
4 months ago
Hey, who's the Commander of your deck? That matters when you trying to restrict the budget.
There's four choices here Sliver Overlord , The First Sliver , Sliver Hivelord and Sliver Legion . In my opinion Overlord and First Sliver are better Commanders than Hivelord and Legion. First Silver is the least expensive price Commander option because it's been reprinted in Modern Horizons 2 meaning in the coming weeks it's going to go down in price even more. You have Hibernation Sliver and Quick Sliver which are busted with First Sliver when it's Commander.
If Overlord isn't the Commander than it's a fine cut to make due to the budget restrictions because Overlord is much less powerful when it's part of the 99 than when it's Commander. Using First Silver as Commander and cutting Overlord opens up a lot more budget for the rest of the deck such as adding Syphon Sliver to abuse Hibernation. Hivelord and Legion are good with First Sliver as Commander because with cascade you can get a lot of Slivers on the battlefield which both these help with attacking Slivers. If Sliver win condition combos are something you want to assemble then Overlord is the better Commander.
In the editor in the section where you can add cards to the decklist find the Sliver who's the Commander and type CMDR after it's text.
The First Sliver *CMDR*
Some budget Slivers upgrades to consider:
- Manaweft Sliver : another Gemhide.
- Amoeboid Changeling : if playing Overlord as Commander.
- Necrotic Sliver
- Pulmonic Sliver : Slivers that die go to the top of your library to then be cast with cascade.
- Crypt Sliver
- Mirror Entity : combine it with Gemhide/Manawelf + Sentinel to make huge Sliver attacks.
- Winged Sliver
- Striking Sliver
After you've chosen your Commander and if interested in any of these suggestions than I offer more advice including cuts to consider and budget manabase options. Good luck with your deck.
4 months ago
Slayroth, don't think I missed your message about the old border printing of The First Sliver . It's definitely on the list of acquisitions from this set. I'm going to trade a buddy who had a much better box for his old border foil Scalding Tarn , then at my LGS i'm going to pick up the remaining old border foil enemy fetches and the Legion. My plan is to trade in a bunch of cards to lower the cost to a reasonable amount lol. My intention is to spend around 100EUR. Also, to answer your question - Regular foils all the way. The shiner the better my magpie brain says lol.
kbaylife, my initial impression of Morophon, the Boundless was pretty much the same as yours - I thought it was going to change the way Slivers are played, potentially - and I do maintain that idea of the card to an extent. However, that really high CMC will limit the impact you could make on the board that turn. For a meta that is rising in power level I think it is always best to focus on interaction. I too have faced Sliver Hate™ at one point or another, but the one thing that has always kept me in the game is interaction. The power to say "No, you will not hate me out of the game" ala Mana Drain speaks volumes - and makes the other players at the table hesitant to make an enemy out of you from the start as well. Please, peruse my deck description in as this page is the culmination of my experiences playing slivers with a nice bit of CSS for fanciness.
I appreciate the upvote - and tell me (if you can see the customized views and all that) what you think of the page layout and design?
5 months ago
So I think first thing to do is decide the direction you want to go with Slivers. They are super versatile due to the Lords they have:
The first 3 are the mainly used commanders. Examples my deck is a toolbox/combo/control type deck. Therefore Overlord made sense to me, as the tutor ability means I can get the right sliver for the right occasion. You can go for a go wide strategy, a go big strategy, a much harder line combo strategy, there is plenty to choose from. I would do some research on decks that run at least the first 3 as their commanders and see which one takes your fancy. I think the other thing to consider is your budget. Slivers can be fairly expensive to build. As you see, the cost of Sliver Queen is high as is on the reserved list. Also, the mana base can be pricey. It can be done cheaply, at the cost of some efficiency. It has taken me years to build the deck up to what it is, so it is definitely a deck you can upgrade over time.
5 months ago
Thank you RA_HORAKHTE, and further thanks for your contributions to Sliver theory.
I welcome the mind of The First Sliver into the Hive Mind, as I welcome any evolution that THE FIRST SLIVER EVOLUTION 【Primer&VorthosThings!】 might trigger within the hive!
5 months ago
Awesome deck Azielle
I'm also play slivers in EDH although I run The First Sliver instead. But I also own a Queen and I love to use her combos in stuck games.
Keep going with the Hive Mind!
Slivers aren't so easy to build as people think, is nice to share knowledge about them here! :)