The First Sliver

The First Sliver

Legendary Creature — Sliver

Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.)

Sliver spells you cast have cascade.

The First Sliver Discussion

RambIe on The first or The overlord

4 weeks ago

For the record
The First Sliver and Sliver Overlord are not interchangeable commanders
a deck that is built and tuned to cascade would be rendered almost useless with Sliver Overlord, and a deck thats designed to tutor out combos would almost always wiff with The First Sliver

now if its just a "good stuff" deck packed with every sliver you can find then any 5 color general can work and Sliver Overlord would definitely out perform The First Sliver
But in no way shape or form will Sliver Overlord ever be more powerful then The First Sliver
spending 3 extra mana to cast your sliver spells puts you behind & casting things for free puts you ahead. If your whiffing that's a tuning issue with your deck and has nothing to do with how powerful a card is

SteelSentry on The first or The overlord

1 month ago

Overlord also lets you tutor up Amoeboid Changeling and steal creatures, if you're interested in that. They're both pretty linear, but Sliver Overlord is going to search out and play your best slivers every game, where The First Sliver just randomly empties your deck onto the table.

RambIe on The first or The overlord

1 month ago

If the deck is tuned right The First Sliver drops 3-4 slivers to the battlefield for 4-5 cmc.
were Sliver Overlord in a sence is adding 3 cmc to all of your casting costs
For these reasons The First Sliver is the superior choice

AggroWithAShield on The first or The overlord

1 month ago

Hey,

I picked up slivers 3 weeks ago and I've been wrestling with either playing The First Sliver or the Sliver Overlord as the commander.

They both have the same cmc and stats but on one hand Sliver Overlord can tutor any sliver from my deck which could tutor The First Sliver if need be and can also steal other slivers or take back a sliver that someone stole from me (probably not gonna happen but still). On the other hand The First Sliver has a descent chance of giving me a free card everytime I cast a sliver.

What would be the better choice ?

Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg

2 months ago

Hey abierto,

Indeed it’s been awhile since you commented, glad to hear from you. Thank you for bringing these cards onto my radar, let’s discuss them - I can easily tell that Survival of the Fittest would dramatically change the way the deck plays – with Survival of the Fittest + Dregscape Sliver on the board, access to at least 3 mana, 1 creature in hand, and at least an additional I can combo out and win the game on that turn. The only drawbacks I can see here are the mana requirements coupled with the more than likely opponent interaction that would be coming my way. Given that Dregscape Sliver’s ability is only sorcery speed – that only solidifies my concern as A simple Bojuka Bog could wreck me If I do not populate my graveyard with care and proper timing. This makes me wish that Paradox Engine wasn’t banned – I really miss that card. The verdict is out on Survival of the Fittest, I want to like to this card but I can’t help but feel hesitant in including it (let alone the investment). I think I’ll maybe proxy it in and see where that takes me. Speaking which, check out this really awesome alter:

Survival of the Fittest Sliver Alter Show

Dregscape Sliver on the other hand I’m considering including. Maybe cutting Patriarch's Bidding, as I do not like the mana investment and the potential added bonus of assisting opponents. In the metas I play in there are a lot of tribal decks – I’m sitting across from at least one or two other tribal decks every game. I’m ordering a copy today, so thank you for mentioning that card again.

Hi Sneuxfox (death by Snu snu?),

Welcome to my deck page! Thank you for posting. I’ve always wanted to work Magma Sliver into this decklist, but I don’t think it would be a good fit – Magma lends itself toward a Sliver deck that compliments a more Aggro strategy where the goal is to hit a “critical mass” of creatures and abuse enough evasion keywords to get a single creature to knock an opponent out. First Sliver's Chosen would be an absolute must include alongside Magma Sliver, as it would solidify a Voltron strategy by stacking Exalted triggers alongside Magma’s ability. I definitely agree that the aforementioned can get out hand when you have just one Sliver be the target of multiple triggers.

I agree that it's criminal that Magma doesn't make it's way into alot of lists, maybe it's due to most decks wanting to lean into the Mid-range Sliver tool box? Or maybe it's because the deck would need to be more Voltron centric? I decided to throw together a quick decklist as an example of what I think the average deck running Magma Sliver would look like:

Budget Aggro Sliver Decklist Show

What're your thoughts on the list, Sneuxfox ?

NobodyP1 on Who is Your Favorite Tribal …

2 months ago

Sliver Overlord on a more competitive side even though slivers are never going to be super competitive as a tribe due to needing 3+ slivers to combo off. I switch to the The First Sliver as the commander when I'm playing more casually.

KBK7101 on Who are the Commanders you …

3 months ago

I currently only play with my brothers at home with decks I have built, so my experience for this thread will come from my experience with Historic Brawl on Arena, which is close enough for the sake of this topic.

Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip is awful to play against. Chulane, Teller of Tales and Yarok, the Desecrated are equally unfun. I didn't really think much of it during VOW spoiler season but Toxrill, the Corrosive is quickly becoming a top "kill on sight" commander as well and although I've only played one game against it, I can see Hinata, Dawn-Crowned enter into this tier as well. Removal, protection and counterspells all cost one less? Ugh.

Sadly, Historic Brawl is largely these decks with a healthy dose of The First Sliver and Esika, God of the Tree  Flip and a decent amount of Halana and Alena, Partners. There's very little variety, it seems.

Gleeock on Who are the Commanders you …

3 months ago

I enjoy playing against commanders that aren't on EDHrecs top 50 most popular of the last year because I like a shot at seeing something different.

I dislike overly built or popular commanders for a laundry list of reasons.

I dislike easymode commanders that are do-everything stapled on one card - In part because I like relying more on the 99, more luck of the draw. So, I am not a fan of alot of the commanders that are hard-stop solve-now or lose cards. To me this would be: The First Sliver, legal golos, Urza, Lord High Artificer, Korvold, Fae-Cursed King, Chulane, Teller of Tales

I have enjoyed commander games against commanders that don't instantly up the ante to win-now mode when they hit the battlefield. I've loved some: Queen Marchesa, Liesa, Shroud of Dusk, Mogis, God of Slaughter, Thantis, the Warweaver

Any group slug decks always contribute a bunch to the game IMO. 2+ group slug players is awesome.

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